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mysteryowl

(7,383 posts)
Mon Aug 3, 2020, 02:40 PM Aug 2020

What are the true reasons Trump has overwhelmingly and systematically destroyed America?

I am looking for true reasons and not snide jokes.

I am sure one is that Trump is being blackmailed by Russia and maybe additional countries as well.
Are any other thoughts?

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What are the true reasons Trump has overwhelmingly and systematically destroyed America? (Original Post) mysteryowl Aug 2020 OP
Due to mental issues from childhood, Trump is a man who "just wants to watch Nay Aug 2020 #1
Yeah, that is possible that his love of chaos is so severe. mysteryowl Aug 2020 #3
Good point winetourdriver01 Aug 2020 #18
I honestly believe he is a fascist authoritarian. cayugafalls Aug 2020 #2
I agree. mysteryowl Aug 2020 #7
Republicans all did some damage. Trump is their usual useful idiot President. pwb Aug 2020 #4
Yep! The repukes are partners in this destruction of America mysteryowl Aug 2020 #9
Yup. grumpyduck Aug 2020 #15
Bannon and Miller Grasswire2 Aug 2020 #5
It doesn't matter what it is that he destroys, the earth, a bible, or a person. That's what 42bambi Aug 2020 #6
Okay, I can see that. Indeed. mysteryowl Aug 2020 #11
He is a useful idiot with con man talents! BlueJac Aug 2020 #8
This message was self-deleted by its author JmAln Aug 2020 #10
All of the above... abqtommy Aug 2020 #12
Trump has not "overwhelmingly and systematically destroyed America." nt Hortensis Aug 2020 #13
+1 ProfessorGAC Aug 2020 #21
This hyperbole echoes defeatist messages from GOP/KGB. Hortensis Aug 2020 #22
I'm With You ProfessorGAC Aug 2020 #25
I know. I don't actually understand, tho. When scoundrels Hortensis Aug 2020 #26
As Long As... ProfessorGAC Aug 2020 #27
Of course there are plans. Attempting them does not Hortensis Aug 2020 #28
I Share Your Plan ProfessorGAC Aug 2020 #30
This crop of GOPees poli-junkie Aug 2020 #14
that is exactly how I see it KT2000 Aug 2020 #17
our system clearly was not designed to deal with someone like him NRaleighLiberal Aug 2020 #16
Trump isn't smart enough to have actually planned procon Aug 2020 #19
Putin Dlpger61 Aug 2020 #20
It has made him extremely rich - finally lame54 Aug 2020 #23
Five words: "15 cases down to 0." Initech Aug 2020 #24
Completely corrupted Republican side of congress? Too much instant lockstepping & shared rhetoric? Brainfodder Aug 2020 #29
 

winetourdriver01

(1,154 posts)
18. Good point
Mon Aug 3, 2020, 03:23 PM
Aug 2020

In our sub conscience there is an insatiable desire for conflict. People with his kind of psychosis hone in on that desire and it's katie bar the damn door.

cayugafalls

(5,640 posts)
2. I honestly believe he is a fascist authoritarian.
Mon Aug 3, 2020, 02:44 PM
Aug 2020

He likes to control people. Now that he is pResident he has power beyond what he ever expected.

Whether it is a conscious decision or not, he is truly an evil person who has no compassion or desire for democracy.

pwb

(11,263 posts)
4. Republicans all did some damage. Trump is their usual useful idiot President.
Mon Aug 3, 2020, 02:47 PM
Aug 2020

Trump doesn't know what to do about anything. It is all Republicans.
You give him way to much credit IMO.

mysteryowl

(7,383 posts)
9. Yep! The repukes are partners in this destruction of America
Mon Aug 3, 2020, 02:50 PM
Aug 2020

Last edited Mon Aug 3, 2020, 03:38 PM - Edit history (1)

Moscow Mitch is at the top of the list, followed by all the silent and complacent ones.

42bambi

(1,753 posts)
6. It doesn't matter what it is that he destroys, the earth, a bible, or a person. That's what
Mon Aug 3, 2020, 02:48 PM
Aug 2020

someone with a sadistic personality disorder does. They get pleasure from what they ruin.

mysteryowl

(7,383 posts)
11. Okay, I can see that. Indeed.
Mon Aug 3, 2020, 02:52 PM
Aug 2020

When we get power, we need to write laws reducing the Presidents power AND require some screening tests they have to pass.

Response to mysteryowl (Original post)

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
22. This hyperbole echoes defeatist messages from GOP/KGB.
Mon Aug 3, 2020, 04:12 PM
Aug 2020

Big no to giving aid to the enemy. And they ARE very dangerous enemies who would never have succeeded as well as they have without weenie-ism and other useful idiocy on our side. We're the MAJORITY, for god's sake.

We need to make good trouble, not good victims.

ProfessorGAC

(65,021 posts)
25. I'm With You
Mon Aug 3, 2020, 04:16 PM
Aug 2020

I agree it's defeatist.
I still understand the reaction.
I don't share it, but I understand it.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
26. I know. I don't actually understand, tho. When scoundrels
Mon Aug 3, 2020, 04:21 PM
Aug 2020

set out to make a useful tool of me, my reaction would ideally make them sorry they engaged, but in any case certainly not reward the effort.

ProfessorGAC

(65,021 posts)
27. As Long As...
Mon Aug 3, 2020, 04:23 PM
Aug 2020

...you & I know that it's not destruction, and there was no plan, just cosmological incompetence, we're tools of nobody!

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
28. Of course there are plans. Attempting them does not
Mon Aug 3, 2020, 04:27 PM
Aug 2020

exclude enormous, in-wired incompetence from any of the power blocs attacking us. My own plan, echoing those who actually have the power to make it happen, is to take them down so definitively that the entire planet realizes they all over-reached badly when they took us on.

poli-junkie

(1,002 posts)
14. This crop of GOPees
Mon Aug 3, 2020, 02:56 PM
Aug 2020

wants to turn America into Putin-style kleptocracy, where you have a small group of oligarchs controlling all facets of "government", toss a big percentage to the mobster-in-chief (pay to play), and leave the rest of America to scrounge for survival. That's why they want to get rid of Obama care, Medicare and Social Security, so that Americans are left to fight for survival using its guns in a sort of mass Social Darwinism experiment.

KT2000

(20,577 posts)
17. that is exactly how I see it
Mon Aug 3, 2020, 03:12 PM
Aug 2020

I think Putin is showing him how to become the leader until he dies and then his kids take over. They will pick and choose who controls what industries.

NRaleighLiberal

(60,014 posts)
16. our system clearly was not designed to deal with someone like him
Mon Aug 3, 2020, 03:09 PM
Aug 2020

most politicians and media clearly don't know what to do about or with him.

procon

(15,805 posts)
19. Trump isn't smart enough to have actually planned
Mon Aug 3, 2020, 03:25 PM
Aug 2020

the destruction of the whole country. He just reacts impulsively as every new situation arises and does whatever he imagines makes him look good. There is no logic to anything he does, as noted in the frequency that he contradicts himself from day to day.

He has declared war on Democrats, and since they are the only bastion of defense of our tattered democracy, it should not come as a surprise that his actions have weakened our country by destroying the vital functions of a working government.

We are on the verge of becoming a failed state, not because Trump actually intended that, but because he was enabled and encouraged by shortsighted people like him who only have their own narrow, selfish self interests in mind.

Initech

(100,070 posts)
24. Five words: "15 cases down to 0."
Mon Aug 3, 2020, 04:15 PM
Aug 2020

And where did that get us? A destroyed economy, 4 million infected, 155,000 dead, hospitals stretched out and overloaded beyond capacity, and a pandemic that may never end. Heck of a job, Trumpy. Heck of a job.

Brainfodder

(6,423 posts)
29. Completely corrupted Republican side of congress? Too much instant lockstepping & shared rhetoric?
Mon Aug 3, 2020, 04:33 PM
Aug 2020
Every day he/they/whomever isn't pulled out of the white house and stomped by a million strong angry mob of random people, is amazing?

He's never been stopped is the true reason?

He uses every dirty trick including lawsuits.

His hole is so big he couldn't acquire enough to fill it?

He got so many people involved, it might feel like the sky is falling when it all sees the light?

Predicting 100+ people with jobs just to sniff this out post 1/21/21?

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