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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(107,956 posts)
Tue Aug 4, 2020, 08:34 PM Aug 2020

Woman charged with assault after mask dispute at Staples leaves customer with broken leg



Police in New Jersey have arrested the woman they said was involved in a mask dispute at a Staples store last week that left a customer with a broken leg.

Terri Thomas, 25, was arrested Tuesday and charged with second-degree aggravated assault, Hackensack police said in a news release.

Thomas was released on a summons pending a first court appearance on Aug. 24. She could not immediately be reached for comment.

Margot Kagan, 54, of Teaneck, told police she was using a fax machine at a Staples store in Hackensack last Wednesday, when a woman, identified by police as Thomas, approached a machine next to her with a mask pulled down below her mouth.

Kagan, who, according to police, had a liver transplant four months ago and was walking with a cane, told Thomas to put her mask on, which police said angered Thomas.

Police said Thomas yelled at Kagan and then violently threw her to the ground.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/woman-charged-with-assault-after-mask-dispute-at-staples-leaves-customer-with-broken-leg/ar-BB17ztgb?li=BBnbcA1&ocid=DELLDHP
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Woman charged with assault after mask dispute at Staples leaves customer with broken leg (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Aug 2020 OP
That's assault malaise Aug 2020 #1
+++++ agree. nt iluvtennis Aug 2020 #32
No kidding! calimary Aug 2020 #46
OMG...this has gone far enough. cayugafalls Aug 2020 #2
What is that elastic thing stretching between them? nt tblue37 Aug 2020 #3
It might be a tape measure? murielm99 Aug 2020 #4
I think it's the cane mindem Aug 2020 #14
Isn't That Her Cane? ProfessorGAC Aug 2020 #15
I wondered if it was the injured woman'c cane, but it seems too long, doesn't it? Hekate Aug 2020 #6
The woman is white clothing had a liver implant a few weeks earlier and Blue_true Aug 2020 #7
full video here Demovictory9 Aug 2020 #11
The woman is on the floor AND NO ONE IS HELPING HER! sheshe2 Aug 2020 #22
lady nearest her went back to her copying. sad. Demovictory9 Aug 2020 #34
And someone else just walked by. sheshe2 Aug 2020 #35
The pink thing? I think it's the victim's cane. SMC22307 Aug 2020 #8
her cane. when the women walks up on her to argue. she turns pointing her cane. full vid here Demovictory9 Aug 2020 #9
It's her cane. ZZenith Aug 2020 #10
is it the woman's cane? Orangepeel Aug 2020 #12
It's the cane, not elastic csziggy Aug 2020 #18
This message was self-deleted by its author Jim__ Aug 2020 #36
Probably a collapsible cane ornotna Aug 2020 #37
That trump supporter is a pos. rockfordfile Aug 2020 #5
a black Karen Skittles Aug 2020 #16
Vicious, depraved Nazis. My gods, Trump has unleashed the lowest of the low in our country... Hekate Aug 2020 #13
here she is Skittles Aug 2020 #19
Ummmm. . . nt Codeine Aug 2020 #21
sigh Upsets the narrative, does it? Her behavior was still heinous, & a fragile woman's leg broken Hekate Aug 2020 #45
A black Karen, evidently. SMC22307 Aug 2020 #17
She should be forced to pay the medical bills -- and then some... CousinIT Aug 2020 #20
+1 crickets Aug 2020 #27
WTF is wrong with people? this pandemic is exacerbating good and bad SiliconValley_Dem Aug 2020 #23
And not one person went to help the lady Alliepoo Aug 2020 #24
Store covering their legal ass. dixiegrrrrl Aug 2020 #33
He has two teenage children. n/t Ms. Toad Aug 2020 #39
Terri Thomas deserves jail time and lots of it. crickets Aug 2020 #25
Tey are doing it in Germany, I saw today. dixiegrrrrl Aug 2020 #38
That poor woman.. because she hasn't been through enough Cha Aug 2020 #26
Ridiculous! pamdamonia Aug 2020 #28
On what are you basing sarisataka Aug 2020 #31
You know she's black, right? n/t Ms. Toad Aug 2020 #40
This country is sick.. stillcool Aug 2020 #29
Well, she will probably get the virus in jail. louis-t Aug 2020 #30
I know one of the friends of poor Margot relayerbob Aug 2020 #41
Here is her GoFundMe relayerbob Aug 2020 #42
That's two assaults Warpy Aug 2020 #43
Isn't this Assault AND Battery? raging moderate Aug 2020 #44
That was easy. Orrex Aug 2020 #47

cayugafalls

(5,640 posts)
2. OMG...this has gone far enough.
Tue Aug 4, 2020, 08:36 PM
Aug 2020

Time for something to be done on a National level. Dump needs to step up and call off this bullshit. Yea, right...

murielm99

(30,736 posts)
4. It might be a tape measure?
Tue Aug 4, 2020, 08:39 PM
Aug 2020

Is the lady trying to measure a six foot distance between herself and the maskless moron?

ProfessorGAC

(65,010 posts)
15. Isn't That Her Cane?
Tue Aug 4, 2020, 08:42 PM
Aug 2020

The snip says she's walking with a cane.
She seemed to be using it, to enforce distance.

Hekate

(90,674 posts)
6. I wondered if it was the injured woman'c cane, but it seems too long, doesn't it?
Tue Aug 4, 2020, 08:40 PM
Aug 2020

Of course video distorts some persoective.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
7. The woman is white clothing had a liver implant a few weeks earlier and
Tue Aug 4, 2020, 08:40 PM
Aug 2020

was using a cane. My guess is once the woman started toward her, she put up the cane to protect herself. It may look elastic due to light effects and the woman holding it moving away from the attacker.

SMC22307

(8,090 posts)
8. The pink thing? I think it's the victim's cane.
Tue Aug 4, 2020, 08:40 PM
Aug 2020

How far gone do you have to be to throw an older woman WITH A CANE to the ground?!

csziggy

(34,136 posts)
18. It's the cane, not elastic
Tue Aug 4, 2020, 08:44 PM
Aug 2020

There is a video at: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/mask-dispute-leaves-staples-customer-broken-leg-after-woman-throws-n1235471

From that story:

"The suspect became angry and yelled at the victim, who picked up her walking cane and pointed it directly at the suspect, coming within inches of the suspect's chest," said Capt. Darrin DeWitt, a detective with the Hackensack Police Department.


It shows that Ms Thomas approached Ms Kagan as Ms Kagan was using the machine. So not only was Ms Thomas not wearing her mask correctly, she was not social distancing. I think Ms Kagan used her cane to attempt to get Ms Thomas to move away from her. That's when Ms Thomas grabs Ms Kagan and threw her to the ground.

The longer video shows a woman at machine next to the one Ms Kagan had been using, who does not react at all to the battery. Then Ms Thomas walks past, completely ignoring Ms Kagan still on the ground with a broken leg. What callous people, Ms Thomas and the woman at the machine next over!

Response to tblue37 (Reply #3)

Hekate

(90,674 posts)
13. Vicious, depraved Nazis. My gods, Trump has unleashed the lowest of the low in our country...
Tue Aug 4, 2020, 08:42 PM
Aug 2020

Unbelievably shameful.

Hekate

(90,674 posts)
45. sigh Upsets the narrative, does it? Her behavior was still heinous, & a fragile woman's leg broken
Tue Aug 4, 2020, 11:00 PM
Aug 2020

I’m not sure what epithets should apply to Xerox Machine Mandy, if she’s not an entitled blond.

 

SiliconValley_Dem

(1,656 posts)
23. WTF is wrong with people? this pandemic is exacerbating good and bad
Tue Aug 4, 2020, 09:01 PM
Aug 2020

the good among us are practically rising to sainthood--think of doctors/nurses/other healthcare workers risking lives in hospitals to treat people with COVID.

Then you have the disgusting underbelly of our society revealing themselves in the worst ways.

Alliepoo

(2,216 posts)
24. And not one person went to help the lady
Tue Aug 4, 2020, 09:02 PM
Aug 2020

Laying on the floor. The store said the video unfortunately cut off before employees rushed to help her. Rushed? Looks like they were standing around with their thumbs up their behinds if you ask me. Not even other customers tried to assist the poor lady. My lord-what’s wrong with people?

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
33. Store covering their legal ass.
Tue Aug 4, 2020, 09:38 PM
Aug 2020

I saw what you saw...she's on the ground trying to get someone to help her and one employee actually walks right past her.


Poor woman. We don't know if she has any family to help her now with a broken leg, medical transportation, etc.

crickets

(25,969 posts)
25. Terri Thomas deserves jail time and lots of it.
Tue Aug 4, 2020, 09:02 PM
Aug 2020

Margot Kagan's head came so close to crashing into the counter. Having been slung that hard, she could have been killed. As it is, the germ sharing involved in attacking her should also be considered assault charges.

It's ridiculous that there isn't more pushback from authorities -- communities need to start charging and jailing people for this kind of behavior or it will keep ramping up. Why do people do this over a mask? I just don't get it.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
38. Tey are doing it in Germany, I saw today.
Tue Aug 4, 2020, 09:49 PM
Aug 2020

Defending their "freedoms"......

WTF is going on when RW insanity is going global......

Cha

(297,196 posts)
26. That poor woman.. because she hasn't been through enough
Tue Aug 4, 2020, 09:03 PM
Aug 2020

already. She has to get attacked by someone who gets violently upset at being asked to actually wear the mask properly.

relayerbob

(6,544 posts)
41. I know one of the friends of poor Margot
Tue Aug 4, 2020, 10:15 PM
Aug 2020

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This is an absolute atrocity. Hard to believe she is allowed to walk free while Margot is getting plates in her legs so she can maybe walk again. She should be jailed and left there to rot as an example to others.

Margot is being released from the hospital tomorrow

Warpy

(111,255 posts)
43. That's two assaults
Tue Aug 4, 2020, 10:19 PM
Aug 2020

A transplant patient is at extreme risk because her immune system is suppressed. She had every right to tell the little (insert nasty word of your choice here) to pull her mask up.

Then there's the physical assault of an older woman with a cane.

They need to throw the book at this little (insert nasty word of your choice), give her a nice long time to rethink the course of her life and how little entitlement she actually has.

Maybe let her out when she needs a cane to get around.

raging moderate

(4,304 posts)
44. Isn't this Assault AND Battery?
Tue Aug 4, 2020, 10:46 PM
Aug 2020

Good grief, even if you did not know about the liver transplant, it would be obvious that this woman is frail. And doesn't this action constitute Assault AND Battery, in any case?

Orrex

(63,208 posts)
47. That was easy.
Tue Aug 4, 2020, 11:08 PM
Aug 2020

If someone is wearing a mask below their nose or, for fuck's sake, below their mouth, it should be legal to put a tin bucket on their head and ring it like a bell.

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