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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(108,127 posts)
Thu Aug 6, 2020, 07:53 PM Aug 2020

Biden Is Polling Better Than Clinton At Her Peak

Election Day is now just three months away, and the overall trajectory of the race hasn’t changed much recently: Joe Biden continues to hold a sizable lead over President Trump. Biden is now up by 8 percentage points in FiveThirtyEight’s national polling average, and he has an advantage of 5 points or more in several key battleground states like Florida, Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin.

Faced with these numbers, though, a lot of people — Republicans, Democrats and people with no particular party affiliation — raise a reasonable question: “Wasn’t Hillary Clinton leading in the polls too?”

Well, yes. But not quite like this. We compared Biden’s standing to where Clinton was at this point in the polls four years ago.1 We specifically chose this point in the cycle in 2016 because it’s about where Clinton hit her peak — on Aug. 7, 2016, following the Democratic National Convention, Clinton had a 7.5-point lead over Trump in national polls.

Clinton never topped that lead. But as you can see in the chart below, even at her post-convention peak, Clinton’s lead over Trump still wasn’t as large as Biden’s is now.

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https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/biden-is-polling-better-than-clinton-at-her-peak/

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Biden Is Polling Better Than Clinton At Her Peak (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Aug 2020 OP
Clinton faced a much more difficult time. She was wrongfully attacked from the left, from the right still_one Aug 2020 #1
K & R THIS ⬆️ Budi Aug 2020 #3
Thanks Budi for making my point. +++ still_one Aug 2020 #4
Trump today vs Trump 2016 makes 2020 a different race Budi Aug 2020 #2
+++ still_one Aug 2020 #5
Agreed it's a completely different race russiamommy Aug 2020 #6

still_one

(92,319 posts)
1. Clinton faced a much more difficult time. She was wrongfully attacked from the left, from the right
Thu Aug 6, 2020, 08:08 PM
Aug 2020

and the sexism hurled from the media at her was unforgivable. “She is too shrill, she never smiles, she is angry all the time”, etc etc etc

Thanks with the help of Comey, and the media, we are where we are today

 

Budi

(15,325 posts)
2. Trump today vs Trump 2016 makes 2020 a different race
Thu Aug 6, 2020, 08:08 PM
Aug 2020

Add to that the all out onslaught of mysogony, & brutal destruction of the image of HRC from social media & MSM, from both Trump foreign influencers & the Bernie Sanders far left drumbeat of the same.
HRC was the most forward thinking Democratic candidate we have had, yet her swiftboating came from all directions.

She warned her country about Trump. Today we live with the fault of those who refused to listen.

Joe Biden is in an entirely different race than HRC, so this polling comparison is a moot point.



russiamommy

(244 posts)
6. Agreed it's a completely different race
Thu Aug 6, 2020, 08:20 PM
Aug 2020

I love Hillary, but she had a lot of baggage. 30 years of the right wing turning her into a demon cost her the election IMO. And Trump and the echo chamber convinced enough people not to vote for her, even if they had to hold their noses and vote for Trump. My DH was one of them. But 2020 is different. No one can credibly claim that Biden is not a decent man. 4 years of Trump has shown enough of these on the fence Trump voters what a mistake it was. All we need is a few voters like my DH in a few states to switch to Biden. I truly believe there are millions of them. DH is now vehemently antiTrump. I know lots of people just like him, and my circle of friends isn’t that big. 😃

I truly believe this is going to be a blowout. But we still need to work to make it happen,

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