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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsNow Gov. DeWine tested negative
Chris Cuomo said just now.
So which is it, I wonder? Bet he does too.
enough
(13,259 posts)almost useless.
Loki Liesmith
(4,602 posts)Thats not true.
TeamPooka
(24,223 posts)KentuckyWoman
(6,679 posts)He got out of dealing with the orange bloviator.
blueinredohio
(6,797 posts)Guy Whitey Corngood
(26,500 posts)OnDoutside
(19,956 posts)Tribetime
(4,694 posts)Hoyt
(54,770 posts)you have it. However, negative tests were often wrong. Well see what they say now.
Ilsa
(61,695 posts)Laelth
(32,017 posts)A positive result is almost certainly correct. A negative result is correct less than 75% of the time.
Given how contagious SARS-CoV-19 is, I am inclined to trust positive results and be suspicious of negative results.
-Laelth
maxrandb
(15,326 posts)I know I've feined sickness to get out of shit.
In fact, I think we should poke Donnie Shit for Brains, because it appears Dewine was just trying to avoid meeting with him.
Could you Imagine how pissed that would make him?
Dude faked Covid just so he didn't have to see your sorry ass.
Buckeye_Democrat
(14,853 posts)Igel
(35,300 posts)There are false positives.
There are false negatives.
As far as we know, we're also fairly in the dark about the time course of viral load in asymptomatic patients. The PCR test is also wicked sensitive.
My current issue of interest is the idea that since coronaviruses seem to share amino acid sequences for much of their spike proteins that there's the possibility of an immune response (would say "immunity" but that would be misunderstood) that diminishes symptoms and shortens the time course.
At this point, it's fairly speculative. However, like all reasonable speculation, it's not so much based on "wouldn't it be nice if these data existed" but on "these data exist, and wouldn't it be nice if that entailed ...?" It would provide a simple, satisfying explanation for some observations. On the other hand, it's in "I wanna believe" territory and so it should be subjected to the full barrage of critical thinking. Just like anything else that's in "I wanna believe" territory.
A hypothesis built entirely on confirmation and not subject to falsification has a standard term: belief. You want science, you need to propose tests and dig deep for disconfirmation. As one researcher put it, the last hypothesis left standing after every attempt to show it's wrong "wins" ... Until another hypothesis comes along.
HubertHeaver
(2,522 posts)irisblue
(32,973 posts)Link to tweet
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Also, during DeWines 4:30 pm today update presser from his home, he mentioned he has a long history of asthma.
OAITW r.2.0
(24,468 posts)Then, after the threat left, he retested negative on CV-19.
herding cats
(19,564 posts)It may be true, who knows?
magicarpet
(14,149 posts)No show,... catch ya later,... good luck.
herding cats
(19,564 posts)The positive is most likely correct. They're notorious for false negatives, not false positives.
Takket
(21,564 posts)And then shithole said that DeWine was a good friend. Shithole did not want him there.
RockRaven
(14,966 posts)With the number of tests being done, there are absolutely going to be tons of false positives, even if the test is more accurate than other medical tests you are used to.
I don't know how good (sensitive and specific) the various tests being employed are off the top of my head, but the way to determine if their accuracy is unacceptable is with analysis of large data sets, not with celebrity anecdotes.
Steelrolled
(2,022 posts)experts we have when some medical issue is in the news.
JDC
(10,127 posts)That would be something.
soothsayer
(38,601 posts)If nothing else it will freak him out. Are the people near him really negative, or is the test wrong?
Bwahaha
Ultimately, nothings perfect, and Abbott quick tests are crap, so its not unheard of for something like this to go wrong. Thats what follow up tests are for - if you can get em.
dawg day
(7,947 posts)Zambero
(8,964 posts)A fake positive COVID test result gets him out of encountering a real-life toxic substance? Sounds like a reasonable trade-off!