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Now Gov. DeWine tested negative (Original Post) soothsayer Aug 2020 OP
This is a common characteristic of these tests. The accuracy is so low as to be enough Aug 2020 #1
"Almost useless" Loki Liesmith Aug 2020 #6
Ask Alyssa Milano about that. TeamPooka Aug 2020 #8
Not useless. KentuckyWoman Aug 2020 #23
I hope DeSwine realizes how flawed these tests really are. blueinredohio Aug 2020 #2
Well that's reassuring...... Guy Whitey Corngood Aug 2020 #3
Maybe he pretended, so he wouldn't have to meet Trump ? OnDoutside Aug 2020 #4
That's what I thought even before 2nd test Tribetime Aug 2020 #24
A couple of months ago, "experts" were saying if the test was positive it's highly likely Hoyt Aug 2020 #5
This. He's more likely to be +. nt Ilsa Aug 2020 #15
afaik, that's still the consensus opinion. Laelth Aug 2020 #16
Maybe he just needed an excuse to skip Dipshit Donnie's visit maxrandb Aug 2020 #7
Seems plausible. nt Buckeye_Democrat Aug 2020 #10
Could be both. Igel Aug 2020 #9
That false positive got him out of a meeting with Trump HubertHeaver Aug 2020 #11
DeWine Twitter thread from this evening. Props for keeping us updated irisblue Aug 2020 #12
Maybe he got a positive on the Trump virus to avoid meeting Trump. OAITW r.2.0 Aug 2020 #13
That's what my spouse said! 🤣 herding cats Aug 2020 #18
Dewine got the 2020 version of bone spurs... magicarpet Aug 2020 #14
If he's doing antigen tests... herding cats Aug 2020 #17
he probably faked the positive to avoid the career suicide of appearing in public with drumpf Takket Aug 2020 #19
This . . . Iliyah Aug 2020 #21
Everyone needs to chill out about false positive anecdotes. Get some perspective. RockRaven Aug 2020 #20
Exactly, and I am always amazed at how many Steelrolled Aug 2020 #29
Conversely, this would mean that people in contact w *45 may be getting false negatives JDC Aug 2020 #22
This is what gives me hope! soothsayer Aug 2020 #27
Lol, he was just making an excuse not to meet Trump dawg day Aug 2020 #25
A very plausible explanation Zambero Aug 2020 #28
A false positive.......the QB of the Detroit Lions had a false positive too. a kennedy Aug 2020 #26
 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
5. A couple of months ago, "experts" were saying if the test was positive it's highly likely
Thu Aug 6, 2020, 10:18 PM
Aug 2020

you have it. However, negative tests were often wrong. We’ll see what they say now.

Laelth

(32,017 posts)
16. afaik, that's still the consensus opinion.
Thu Aug 6, 2020, 10:42 PM
Aug 2020

A positive result is almost certainly correct. A negative result is correct less than 75% of the time.

Given how contagious SARS-CoV-19 is, I am inclined to trust positive results and be suspicious of negative results.



-Laelth

maxrandb

(15,326 posts)
7. Maybe he just needed an excuse to skip Dipshit Donnie's visit
Thu Aug 6, 2020, 10:19 PM
Aug 2020

I know I've feined sickness to get out of shit.

In fact, I think we should poke Donnie Shit for Brains, because it appears Dewine was just trying to avoid meeting with him.

Could you Imagine how pissed that would make him?

Dude faked Covid just so he didn't have to see your sorry ass.

Igel

(35,300 posts)
9. Could be both.
Thu Aug 6, 2020, 10:20 PM
Aug 2020

There are false positives.

There are false negatives.

As far as we know, we're also fairly in the dark about the time course of viral load in asymptomatic patients. The PCR test is also wicked sensitive.

My current issue of interest is the idea that since coronaviruses seem to share amino acid sequences for much of their spike proteins that there's the possibility of an immune response (would say "immunity" but that would be misunderstood) that diminishes symptoms and shortens the time course.

At this point, it's fairly speculative. However, like all reasonable speculation, it's not so much based on "wouldn't it be nice if these data existed" but on "these data exist, and wouldn't it be nice if that entailed ...?" It would provide a simple, satisfying explanation for some observations. On the other hand, it's in "I wanna believe" territory and so it should be subjected to the full barrage of critical thinking. Just like anything else that's in "I wanna believe" territory.

A hypothesis built entirely on confirmation and not subject to falsification has a standard term: belief. You want science, you need to propose tests and dig deep for disconfirmation. As one researcher put it, the last hypothesis left standing after every attempt to show it's wrong "wins" ... Until another hypothesis comes along.

irisblue

(32,973 posts)
12. DeWine Twitter thread from this evening. Props for keeping us updated
Thu Aug 6, 2020, 10:33 PM
Aug 2020















Also, during DeWines 4:30 pm today update presser from his home, he mentioned he has a long history of asthma.

OAITW r.2.0

(24,468 posts)
13. Maybe he got a positive on the Trump virus to avoid meeting Trump.
Thu Aug 6, 2020, 10:38 PM
Aug 2020

Then, after the threat left, he retested negative on CV-19.

herding cats

(19,564 posts)
17. If he's doing antigen tests...
Thu Aug 6, 2020, 10:42 PM
Aug 2020

The positive is most likely correct. They're notorious for false negatives, not false positives.

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
21. This . . .
Thu Aug 6, 2020, 10:52 PM
Aug 2020

And then shithole said that DeWine was a good friend. Shithole did not want him there.

RockRaven

(14,966 posts)
20. Everyone needs to chill out about false positive anecdotes. Get some perspective.
Thu Aug 6, 2020, 10:49 PM
Aug 2020

With the number of tests being done, there are absolutely going to be tons of false positives, even if the test is more accurate than other medical tests you are used to.

I don't know how good (sensitive and specific) the various tests being employed are off the top of my head, but the way to determine if their accuracy is unacceptable is with analysis of large data sets, not with celebrity anecdotes.

 

Steelrolled

(2,022 posts)
29. Exactly, and I am always amazed at how many
Fri Aug 7, 2020, 12:10 AM
Aug 2020

experts we have when some medical issue is in the news.

JDC

(10,127 posts)
22. Conversely, this would mean that people in contact w *45 may be getting false negatives
Thu Aug 6, 2020, 11:21 PM
Aug 2020

That would be something.

soothsayer

(38,601 posts)
27. This is what gives me hope!
Fri Aug 7, 2020, 12:03 AM
Aug 2020

If nothing else it will freak him out. Are the people near him really negative, or is the test wrong?

Bwahaha

Ultimately, nothing’s perfect, and Abbott quick tests are crap, so it’s not unheard of for something like this to go wrong. That’s what follow up tests are for —- if you can get em.

Zambero

(8,964 posts)
28. A very plausible explanation
Fri Aug 7, 2020, 12:06 AM
Aug 2020

A fake positive COVID test result gets him out of encountering a real-life toxic substance? Sounds like a reasonable trade-off!

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