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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsI don't see how Trump's executive order funding economic relief and cutting taxes can stand
It defies Constitutional delineation of powers on the most superficial level. If the courts suffer extreme lunacy and let this happen, it might be the most dangerous thing that's happened since Trump and McConnell formed their unholy union. If the chief executive has that power, we're done.
TreasonousBastard
(43,049 posts)anything like this since Andrew Jackson.
Frasier Balzov
(2,648 posts)He just wants to be able to blame his "enemies" for stopping him.
Lucinda
(31,170 posts)Mike 03
(16,616 posts)before courts rule on it.
John Yoo has said that the Executive Orders may be found unConstitutional in the long run, but that it would take two or more years to get that legal finding.
His vision is that these EO take effect, and that even if Biden wins he would have to enforce them as they work their way through the court system, presumably up to the SCOTUS.
Yes, it is incredibly dangerous what is happening. I'm so glad people understand this. We've come a long way from last week, when people were saying, "He's just bluffing, he can't do that, it's illegal, don't worry..."
We've been through this before. Trump diverted congressionally allocated money from the Pentagon to build his wall, in total violation of the Constitution, and more than eighteen months later we are just now starting to get very preliminary rulings that Congress can sue him for that.
This is why my question is always: Yes, it is illegal, but who is going to stop himi between now and November?
Can the Supreme Court take special action to clarify its DACA ruling, and put to bed any notion on John Yoo's part that the ruling opens the door to serial abuse of Executive Orders?
The new lawsuits against Trump for the Census change will be a test. It all comes down to: Can we stop the EO from taking effect before and until courts rule on it. John Yoo is banking on the idea we can't.
MichMan
(11,927 posts)and issue new ones forcing the money to be returned like it never happened in the first place?
MFM008
(19,808 posts)Fox can trumpet to the zombies.
Progressive dog
(6,904 posts)Those executive orders clearly are illegal and violate Trump's oath to uphold the Constitution. That will be clear to all the government workers who also take an oath to defend the Constitution. Anyone obeying orders so obviously unconstitutional will have, at a minimum, destroyed their careers by obeying the orders.
judeling
(1,086 posts)He is going to defer payments. Everyone remains of the hook for it.
This is a payday loan. Just without the huge interest (although there may be some).