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FourScore

(9,704 posts)
Fri Sep 21, 2012, 09:35 AM Sep 2012

Hey Scott Brown... Am I 'Indian' Enough For You?

Fri Sep 21, 2012 at 05:51 AM PDT
Hey Scott Brown... Am I 'Indian' Enough For You?
by LieparDestin

This is me. By Brown's standards, I am an even whiter-guy than he is.




This is my father. He named me 'Kiowa'. Literally. That is my name. Sorry it is not more 'white' like 'Scott' or something.




Do you need to see my papers Mr Brown? It is people like you that likely caused me to become a Democrat in the first place. I grew up all the time with people telling my father he needs to cut his hair, go back to the reservation, making 'indian noises', Dances-with-wolves references, etc.





http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/09/21/1134738/-Hey-Scott-Brown-Am-I-Indian-Enough-For-You



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Hey Scott Brown... Am I 'Indian' Enough For You? (Original Post) FourScore Sep 2012 OP
Why is Scott Brown resurrecting the Pilgrims and the Native Americans in Massachusetts? no_hypocrisy Sep 2012 #1
Willard went to Univision with a 'tan.' Maybe Brown will go to the next debate Indpndnt Sep 2012 #9
He tried to get out of that debate and then said this. Poor judgment. n/t porphyrian Sep 2012 #2
My Greatgrandmother was one fourth we believe Osage. gordianot Sep 2012 #3
Playing the racist card at the debate onset was incredibly tasteless and stupid Coyotl Sep 2012 #4
Frankly, I'm stunned. n/t FourScore Sep 2012 #5
a girl can hope! robinlynne Sep 2012 #8
I agree, it was the most racist shit I have ever seen in a Senate debate. Major Hogwash Sep 2012 #12
Right on, brother. Aldo Leopold Sep 2012 #6
that's the coolest LittleRock Sep 2012 #7
my middle name is LieparDestin Sep 2012 #39
This is excellent. Indpndnt Sep 2012 #10
Any person with Indian heritage must be incensed Generic Other Sep 2012 #11
1/4 Cherokee here!!!! beachgirl2365 Sep 2012 #20
Beautiful pictures Kiowa:) mindfulNJ Sep 2012 #13
No worries. I'll let him know to check this site. FourScore Sep 2012 #14
Thank you LieparDestin Sep 2012 #38
LieparDestin has some fine genetic code--he looks like his daddy... nt MADem Sep 2012 #15
Thanks LieparDestin Sep 2012 #33
Welcome to DU. DURHAM D Sep 2012 #36
Thank you LieparDestin Sep 2012 #37
I'm 1/2 American Indian (never did like the "Native" tag) LibGranny Sep 2012 #16
LOL about the "Indian" thing OKNancy Sep 2012 #22
I know! It's that way here in KS also - we have our Indian casinos, etc. LibGranny Sep 2012 #29
I am a tribal roll card carrying member... AnneD Sep 2012 #31
Just wanted to say that you last paragraph touched me kdmorris Sep 2012 #34
I feel that his legacy was by far.... AnneD Sep 2012 #35
Love this OP. a la izquierda Sep 2012 #17
Ditto malaise Sep 2012 #25
Incredible photos! Love the last one :) AllyCat Sep 2012 #18
Youre LieparDestin Sep 2012 #40
One Third Doctor Sep 2012 #19
It's a myth on the Right that white males are being screwed by affirmative action,... Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2012 #21
I missed the debate and only vaguely know about how Scott Brown's opening statements Matariki Sep 2012 #23
Follow this link to the video Coyotl Sep 2012 #28
Wow! Awesome pictures! graywarrior Sep 2012 #24
I Was Told I Was Part Indian otohara Sep 2012 #26
I love the last picture ..... Smilo Sep 2012 #27
Real Indians are darker. Like this: retread Sep 2012 #30
Cool pics. Scott Brown you suck a big ass! lonestarnot Sep 2012 #32

no_hypocrisy

(46,202 posts)
1. Why is Scott Brown resurrecting the Pilgrims and the Native Americans in Massachusetts?
Fri Sep 21, 2012, 09:38 AM
Sep 2012

Not his strongest argument to get votes.

Indpndnt

(2,391 posts)
9. Willard went to Univision with a 'tan.' Maybe Brown will go to the next debate
Fri Sep 21, 2012, 10:45 AM
Sep 2012

in a Pilgrim's costume. And he would think himself quite clever, I'm sure.

gordianot

(15,245 posts)
3. My Greatgrandmother was one fourth we believe Osage.
Fri Sep 21, 2012, 09:47 AM
Sep 2012

My Uncle was definately a throw back people always confused him as either native American or Asian. For me it does not matter in the scheme of time a few seconds ago 100,000 years all of us shared common ancestors in Africa.

 

Coyotl

(15,262 posts)
4. Playing the racist card at the debate onset was incredibly tasteless and stupid
Fri Sep 21, 2012, 09:52 AM
Sep 2012

That alone may have cost him the election, revealing his true character and showing his desperation

Major Hogwash

(17,656 posts)
12. I agree, it was the most racist shit I have ever seen in a Senate debate.
Fri Sep 21, 2012, 10:54 AM
Sep 2012

Warren answered exactly the right way, giving a straight forward answer to the people who will vote for her.

I think Brown just stuck a fork in to himself.

Good riddance to racist white trash!

Generic Other

(28,979 posts)
11. Any person with Indian heritage must be incensed
Fri Sep 21, 2012, 10:51 AM
Sep 2012

That first whites tried to kill the Indian to save the man, then they send him to Indian Boarding School to unteach him his culture. Now he tries to make the children invisible.

As long as there is one drop of Indian blood, the spirit remains. Fuck the white man who says different.

 

beachgirl2365

(111 posts)
20. 1/4 Cherokee here!!!!
Fri Sep 21, 2012, 12:09 PM
Sep 2012

So true, if Brown knew anything about the history of American Indian Tribes, what people of Elizabeth Warren's grandparents generation experienced (mine too,..........Both Grandparents on my Dad's side 1/2 Cherokee),.. well frankly he should be ashamed, and so should anyone else who goes down this route,.....................oh, BTW, I don't have my papers in order currently, but I am working on it,............if not for any reason than to say F.U. to people like Scott Brown!!!!

On a brighter note,.. Thanks so much for sharing these photos. I especially love the last one!!!!Very beautiful and powerful!

mindfulNJ

(2,367 posts)
13. Beautiful pictures Kiowa:)
Fri Sep 21, 2012, 10:54 AM
Sep 2012

You look very much like your father...thanks for sharing these.

on edit...I thought these were the OP's pics. Nevermind

LieparDestin

(7 posts)
37. Thank you
Tue Sep 25, 2012, 12:13 PM
Sep 2012

As my dailykos diaries usually get reposted over here, and then so many people had nice things to say, I felt I should join in the fun

LibGranny

(711 posts)
16. I'm 1/2 American Indian (never did like the "Native" tag)
Fri Sep 21, 2012, 11:30 AM
Sep 2012

and 1/2 Irish and some of my grandchildren are blonde with blue eyes but they are still 1/8 degree of Indian blood! American Indians are the forgotten people. At 5 years old, my mother was sent to a "boarding" school in Nebraska (we live in Kansas, sorry to say) and stayed there until they had an outbreak of small pox. She traveled by train with other Indian children but without either parent. The plan was to take the "Indianness" out of these kids - to have them learn English and how to dress like whites. My dad was of a different tribe but their dialect was so similar they would speak Indian to talk about something they didn't want us to know - it worked! Elizabeth Warren could be related to me in that she does look like some members of my family! Scott Brown is an idiot!

OKNancy

(41,832 posts)
22. LOL about the "Indian" thing
Fri Sep 21, 2012, 12:21 PM
Sep 2012

No one here in Oklahoma says Native American. It's Indian tribes, Indian casino, Indian water rights, etc.
Sometimes people will say American Indian. Maybe because here in Oklahoma when you say Indian, everyone assumes you mean a native, not someone from southern Asia.

AnneD

(15,774 posts)
31. I am a tribal roll card carrying member...
Sat Sep 22, 2012, 12:14 AM
Sep 2012

Of the Cherokee tribe. By a stroke of fate, my hubby is from southern India. It is a running joke in the house as to who is more Indian. Interestingly enough, he is entitled to tribal benefits by virtue of marriage.

Go figure.

Elizabeth Warren hails from Oklahoma, aka the Indian Territory, I don't doubt that she or any family living generations in Okla have Indian ancestry. Although I had the ancestry, I did not get my card until two years ago. Unlike the 1%, I did not rely on the government teet. I paid for my education, etc. Dad moved off the Rez to get a job. I got the card as a legacy for my daughter. Grandpa was dirt poor and alway felt bad that he had nothing to give us.

But unlike Mitt's monetary inheritance, Grandpa gave us a far richer legacy: a history that extends to the beginning of time, a true spiritual core, a sense of freedom and that has not been beaten or breed out, and an ability to truly understand and value the whole of your tribe.

kdmorris

(5,649 posts)
34. Just wanted to say that you last paragraph touched me
Mon Sep 24, 2012, 08:18 AM
Sep 2012

My grandparents had nothing to pass on to any of us either, monetarily. But I always knew that they loved me and they are the foundation of what I've managed to accomplish in genealogy. While we are not American Indian (except for a Pottawatomie woman back in 1765), their family stories were invaluable to helping me understand my family's past and where we came from.

AnneD

(15,774 posts)
35. I feel that his legacy was by far....
Mon Sep 24, 2012, 09:25 AM
Sep 2012

one of the greatest, along with my mother's Grandfather. One settled the West, one survived the 'settling'.

Thanks for the kind words.

a la izquierda

(11,797 posts)
17. Love this OP.
Fri Sep 21, 2012, 11:58 AM
Sep 2012

Thanks for posting. I grew up with an aunt who is 1/4 Anishinabe, from Minnesota. She taught me about her people when I was a kid, instilling in me a deep respect for indigenous cultures. I about choked when I read what Brown had said.

AllyCat

(16,231 posts)
18. Incredible photos! Love the last one :)
Fri Sep 21, 2012, 11:59 AM
Sep 2012

Thank you for posting this. It is always an honor when people post personal, family photos and stories.

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
21. It's a myth on the Right that white males are being screwed by affirmative action,...
Fri Sep 21, 2012, 12:20 PM
Sep 2012

...Scott Brown is saying if Warren hadn't committed fraud by claiming to be a Native American she wouldn't be where she is today. Thus accusing her of being an unqualified liar.

To quote Malloy, have I mentioned yet today how much I hate these people?

Matariki

(18,775 posts)
23. I missed the debate and only vaguely know about how Scott Brown's opening statements
Fri Sep 21, 2012, 12:22 PM
Sep 2012

Anyone have a link with more info?

 

otohara

(24,135 posts)
26. I Was Told I Was Part Indian
Fri Sep 21, 2012, 12:34 PM
Sep 2012

my grandmother on my mom's side was part Indian....and I don't look it, nor do I look all that Latin, but I am. Father was Irish/German. I have no idea how to prove my mother's claim, everyone is dead.

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