The 'excess deaths' tally in the U.S. is 204,691 in 7 months -- so C-19 deaths might be undercounted

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Opinion: The ‘excess deaths’ tally in the U.S. is 204,691 in 7 months — so COVID-19 deaths might be undercounted



The number of deaths in the United States through July 2020 is 8% to 12% higher than it would have been if the coronavirus pandemic had never happened. That’s at least 164,937 deaths above the number expected for the first seven months of the year — 16,183 more than the number attributed to COVID-19 thus far for that period — and it could be as high as 204,691.

Projecting from the past
To calculate excess deaths requires a comparison to what would have occurred if COVID-19 had not existed. - Marketwatch

Right up tRump's alley, I'd say. He's been all about hiding the truth during this dark period in American history.

[ananda]

1. Most definitely are way undercounted!

No might about it.

[Johnny2X2X]

2. Even more than that number

We had shutdowns that greatly reduced traffic deaths and other accidental deaths. So Covid-19 deaths could be well over the 200,000 mark.

Oh, and we'll be over the 170,000 mark today, but Orange leader will saw something like 150,000 if asked about it, as if the President is given weeks old data regularly.

[Mariana]

7. Traffic deaths, accidental deaths ...

and flu pretty much vanished in early March, as soon as people started staying home and distancing. It wasn't enough to end the spread of Coronavirus, but it stopped the flu from going around.

[WhiteTara]

8. plus school shootings and other

mass murders were curtailed also.

[greymattermom]

3. My husband died in July of a brain tumor.

He was in lock down in an assisted living facility and no one checked on him for months, other than to bring him his food. By the time he got his diagnosis he was too weak to survive chemotherapy. He didn't die of COVID, but cases like his could contribute to excess death counts.

[progressoid]

11. ...

[malaise]

13. Deepest sympathy

[BigmanPigman]

16. That's so sad!!!

[Stallion]

4. I Really Think We Need a Reputable Institution to Track These Numbers-Nationally and By State

we've got hundreds of institutions tracking Covid but excess deaths tell a more complete story

[Igel]

5. Make a distinction between "dead from COVID", "dead while COVID", "dead during pandemic."

They're different.

In late April a bunch of reports said that ER visits due to heart attacks and stroke were way, way down. No reason for the actual incidence to be lower; what was happening is that people weren't going to the ER because of COVIDophobia and dying at home.

[lettucebe]

6. This is argument I give to any who claim the counts are inflated

It's the excess deaths stupid. Seriously, we have tens of thousands (moving into hundreds of thousands) of deaths not attributable to the usual causes. Call them whatever you want, but something is killing people. Wonder what on earth it might be?

[ProfessorGAC]

9. My Contacts In The Insurance Industry...

...mostly actuaries, say it's more than 30% greater than reported.
I don't disagree with the premise, but I think unanticipated deaths is more than 205,000.
Likely closer to 215,000.

[joanbarnes]

10. so over 51,000 Benghazis?

[Awsi Dooger]

12. Obviously it's considerably undercounted

A very sharp poster on Reddit has been emphasizing this for months, using this criteria and backed by a few related numbers

[Nitram]

14. Another distinct possibility is that people died of other ailments because they didn't want to go to

a hospital for treatment because of fear of infection by the virus.

[marble falls]

15. Get that nugget out.

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

17. K&R