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Kamala Harris Birtherism Fail (Original Post) bigtree Aug 2020 OP
I hope Trump takes the bait. tman Aug 2020 #1
wait for it bigtree Aug 2020 #4
Go FULL 14th Amendment on these assholes.... ProudMNDemocrat Aug 2020 #2
Colin Powell had two Jamaican parents malaise Aug 2020 #3
Right wing fuck-buckets will argue that neither Yoo nor Powell ran for president. n/t SpankMe Aug 2020 #24
LOL not birtherism again onetexan Aug 2020 #5
consider for a moment *why* the president/vice-president are required to be natural-born citizens unblock Aug 2020 #6
80% of Trump's acknowledged children have foreign-born mothers. Tanuki Aug 2020 #7
It's OK if she's not. Pelosi is next in line. Renew Deal Aug 2020 #8
"I never even heard of Oakland. What country is it in?" struggle4progress Aug 2020 #9
FO with your stupid Gaslighting, jenna ellis.. you aren't fooling Cha Aug 2020 #10
Newsweek's opinion editor Josh Hammer is a far right nutjob muriel_volestrangler Aug 2020 #11
Ugh. I haven't opened a Newsweek in at least a decade. progressoid Aug 2020 #13
It was only when I saw this I wondered "who is Josh Hammer?" muriel_volestrangler Aug 2020 #20
Wow. progressoid Aug 2020 #25
Newsweek has been shit for years , I think the obsession with Clinton Lewinsky was the start JI7 Aug 2020 #29
Similar to the open question whether wearing masks inhibits the spread of corona captain queeg Aug 2020 #12
Do they want to see safeinOhio Aug 2020 #14
Twenty years ago they were calling to change the constitution so Arnold Schwartzenegger could run. meadowlander Aug 2020 #15
I searched "anchor baby" on Twitter last night & it was hilarious. CaptainTruth Aug 2020 #16
Those folks only believe there is one Amendment and that is the second... rwsanders Aug 2020 #21
They like to pretend they were taught in school that eligibility requires Mariana Aug 2020 #26
Oakland, CA might be part of Jamaica IronLionZion Aug 2020 #17
I recommend @BadLegalTakes on Twitter. A few examples: CaptainTruth Aug 2020 #18
This was sadly predictable nycbos Aug 2020 #19
Good grief karin_sj Aug 2020 #22
This was decided in 1898 Retrograde Aug 2020 #23
But they aren't *Natural Born Citizens* according to the RWers. Mariana Aug 2020 #27
Birtherism is racist trolling, nothing more. radius777 Aug 2020 #28
Our editorial "Does This Insolent, Oddly-Named Negress Think She Can Fool Decent Americans?" ... muriel_volestrangler Aug 2020 #30

ProudMNDemocrat

(16,785 posts)
2. Go FULL 14th Amendment on these assholes....
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 12:27 PM
Aug 2020

That will put the issue to rest. Cannot dispute the 14th Amendment and how it is worded..

unblock

(52,227 posts)
6. consider for a moment *why* the president/vice-president are required to be natural-born citizens
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 12:40 PM
Aug 2020

it was put in the constitution to reduce the risk that they would be have a strong or even primary loyalty to a country other than the united states.

and the people bringing this up are backing a russian agent instead.



that's completely putting aside the obvious lack of merits of the argument....

Tanuki

(14,918 posts)
7. 80% of Trump's acknowledged children have foreign-born mothers.
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 01:28 PM
Aug 2020

He harbors fantasies/delusions that at least a couple of them will be PresIdent some day, despite having a foreign-born mom and Russian asset dad.

Cha

(297,221 posts)
10. FO with your stupid Gaslighting, jenna ellis.. you aren't fooling
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 01:36 PM
Aug 2020

anyone but trump stupid base. I'ts an "open question" for idiots.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,316 posts)
20. It was only when I saw this I wondered "who is Josh Hammer?"
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 02:53 PM
Aug 2020



(after his eulogy for John Lewis)

and was shocked to find he is Newsweek Opinion Editor. He's more openly partisan than the guys at the Wall Street Journal.

JI7

(89,249 posts)
29. Newsweek has been shit for years , I think the obsession with Clinton Lewinsky was the start
Fri Aug 14, 2020, 06:09 AM
Aug 2020

of them really going down. They lost much of their audience and then I guess they just started to turn right.

meadowlander

(4,395 posts)
15. Twenty years ago they were calling to change the constitution so Arnold Schwartzenegger could run.
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 02:40 PM
Aug 2020

Fuck em.

CaptainTruth

(6,591 posts)
16. I searched "anchor baby" on Twitter last night & it was hilarious.
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 02:42 PM
Aug 2020

There were tons of ignorant right wingers (& bots) saying that because Harris' parents weren't US citizens when she was born, she isn't eligible to be president, so if anything happened to Biden (or: there's a SECRET PLAN for Biden to step aside after the election!!!) Nancy Pelosi would become president AND OH MY GOD THE WORLD WILL END!!!

I was laughing my ass off! Great fun before bed, asking these folks "What part of the 14th Amendment do you not understand? Apparently, all of it."

rwsanders

(2,603 posts)
21. Those folks only believe there is one Amendment and that is the second...
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 03:00 PM
Aug 2020

and they can't even read that correctly.
It would probably be fun to ask bunch of NRA freaks to name the 1st, on camera.

Mariana

(14,857 posts)
26. They like to pretend they were taught in school that eligibility requires
Fri Aug 14, 2020, 01:38 AM
Aug 2020

that one not only must have been born in the US, but that both parents must have been US citizens at the time of birth. However, no one who says this has been able to produce a single old textbook that makes this idiotic claim.

IronLionZion

(45,442 posts)
17. Oakland, CA might be part of Jamaica
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 02:49 PM
Aug 2020

just like how I was born in the Brooklyn, NY section of India and my H1B visa looks a lot like a United States Passport.

Dumbass actually did play the birther card on Cruz during the 2016 primaries.

Retrograde

(10,136 posts)
23. This was decided in 1898
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 03:18 PM
Aug 2020

In The United States v. Wong Kim Ark the US Supreme Court ruled that the child of non-citizens born on US soil was a US citizen by birth. In that particular case, the child was recognized as a citizen even though his parents, due to the Chinese exclusion laws, where not eligible to be US citizens!

Mariana

(14,857 posts)
27. But they aren't *Natural Born Citizens* according to the RWers.
Fri Aug 14, 2020, 01:42 AM
Aug 2020

No, it doesn't make any sense to me, either.

radius777

(3,635 posts)
28. Birtherism is racist trolling, nothing more.
Fri Aug 14, 2020, 04:51 AM
Aug 2020

It will blowback on them even worse than when they tried it on Obama.

The country is more racially liberal and diverse than it was a decade ago, with the 'racial reckoning' and 'BLM' becoming mainstream and even supported by moderates. The suburbs are trending Dem more and more and are turned off by this type of overt racism.

Please proceed Mr. President ...

muriel_volestrangler

(101,316 posts)
30. Our editorial "Does This Insolent, Oddly-Named Negress Think She Can Fool Decent Americans?" ...
Fri Aug 14, 2020, 05:13 PM
Aug 2020

... Has Nothing To Do With Racist Birth-er-ism

We have published this editorial note because, to our surprise, many people have reacted strongly, even with hostility, to the op-ed we published the other day by Dr. I.M.A. Wingnut Factotum, “Does This Insolent, Oddly-Named Negress Think She Can Fool Decent Americans?”

Dr. Factotum’s essay has been vilified as so-called alleged “birth-er-ism,” which legend has it was used by persons unknown — certainly not by anyone connected with Dr. Factotum or the Republican Party — against former president Hussein Obama to falsely suggest that he was not born in Hawaii in an attempt to suggest his ineligibility for the presidency, and we deplore any such calumnious argument against his citizenship that does not refer to the Kenyan citizenship of his father which is a known and too-little-investigated fact.

Dr. Factotum’s essay was obviously a high-minded, 10,000-foot overview of the Constitutional issues raised when an aged Democratic presidential nominee presumptive named, perhaps in a moment of dementia, a so-called alleged “black” (but not “African” “-” “American” (according to a DNA sample we got from a coffee cup which we’ll be writing about next week!) Jamaican-Indian-who-knows-what “person” “of” alleged-so-called “color” (check our Pantone analysis in an upcoming issue!) to be a heartbeat away from the AMERICAN Presidency, and only a political-motivated churl would believe otherwise. Take for example this excerpt:

The controversial 14th Amendment clause claiming “all persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside” is read by uneducated people to mean “all persons who are born or naturalized in the United States” would naturally be “subject to the jurisdiction thereof,” thus making such persons — again, in this fanciful view — “citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.” My studies show, however, that this anachronistic modern “birth on the soil no matter the circumstances” view would never have occurred to the Founders, nor even to the carpetbaggers and scalawags who pushed through this “Reconstruction” Amendment. Can you imagine a sensible citizen of, say, Mississippi in 1868 looking at Kamala Harris and believing her to be eligible for the Presidency? It is prima facie absurd, ipso facto. Would such a person think the same of those Mestizo seasonal workers whom we called, in a simpler and more American time, wetbacks? To follow are several Latin phrases that emphasize my point.

...
https://edroso.substack.com/p/our-editorial-does-this-insolent

A classic from Roy Edroso.
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