NYC Police Union Endorses racist Trump but want PoC to believe they have no biases in policing?

[uponit7771]

NYC Police Union Endorses racist Trump but want PoC to believe they have no biases in policing?

How is that supposed to work?

A group that endorses the KKK, white supremacist or any other hate group or openly racist person are supposed to be taken seriously during a trial that involves a person of color?

Trump retweets people yelling white power but Black and Brown lives matter to NYC police?

"We endorse the overtly racist person.." doesn't work for a community message imho ... am I off here?

Your take?

[dhol82]

1. I was shocked when I heard it.

Don’t understand how the police can now say that they are unbiased.
This is disturbing as hell.

[uponit7771]

2. +1, how are PA's supposed to defend this shit in court? MAGAs might not put racism and MAGA together

... but the rest of societies on earth do; their leader retweets people yelling white power!!!

Someone needs to hold the NYC police union accountable for who they endorse

[lapucelle]

4. How do you hold a union accountable for an endorsement?

The NYCPU is students' rights group.

[uponit7771]

5. Meant NYC police union and the union members can be held accountable as a group for who and

... what they endorse.

If the NYC police union openly endorsed Hitler even in part their members would be torn to shreds in court.

[lapucelle]

8. Tearing union members to shreds in court

over their organization's political endorsements sounds problematic.

[uponit7771]

11. Union members endorsing overtly racist people sounds 10x more problematic to Communities of color

... than a line of communication in court.

which one do we stand for more?

Racism sucks ass, no matter were its fought

[lapucelle]

19. Attacking union members in court over political endorsements

sounds problematic at best.

Imagine if nurses serving as a fact witnesses in malpractice suits were attacked for their union's political endorsements.

Or if postal workers testifying about the USPS's new policies were attacked in court over their union's endorsements.

[Vinnie From Indy]

22. +1

Good points!

[uponit7771]

26. Apples and pot holes, in this context police groups have to show lack of bias and supporting

... racism via Red Don does the opposite of that.

If the nurses unions supported malpractice against a certain group then of course they should answer for it.

[lapucelle]

28. Actually....attacking union members in court over political endorsements

is attacking union members in court over political endorsements.

If the argument is...

Donald Trump is a racist
The X union endorsed Donald Trump
Therefore all members of the X union are racists

...saying things like "apples and potholes" doesn't make it cogent.

[uponit7771]

32. Having a black friend or even members of a group doesn't inoculate anyone from charges of bias

... and there are too many bars in songs about black cops showing out for the white cops for the sake of fitting in so Cop of color are a poor choice in and of itself of proxy validation.

and

I posted, if the nurses union for example endorsed pivotal wrongness in their career like harming certain groups of people for protected reasons ... then yes its members should be held responsible.

It's wrong for organizations to endorse Trumps overt racism by any group, it hurts the cops and communities in NY.

[lapucelle]

33. I'm not sure I would ground my argument in evidence found in songs. N/T

[uponit7771]

34. FACT NOT IN DISPUTE: Law enforcement groups endorsing people who hate based on race is not good.

That's fairly grounded along with any peripheral points about rap songs that proffer the same.

[lapucelle]

35. I agree. But I don't agree with tearing apart witnesses in court

based on the political endorsements of the unions they are members of.

[uponit7771]

36. Unnnn, so the police union endorses a white nationalist and that helps? How does a PoC get past the

... organization a LEO is a part of endorsing something so overtly fucked up?

White nationalist are no doubt political organizations.

[lapucelle]

37. What does that have to do with tearing witnesses apart in court based on

the candidate endorsements made by unions they are members of?

[uponit7771]

38. Because courts are where racist cops can be held accountable for screwing the community.

[New Breed Leader]

14. I wasn't shocked at all.

When someone shows you who they really are...believe them.

[jimfields33]

17. They don't want funding taken away. Even a dollar. Bottom line.

They are selling their souls to the devil to save money.

[JHB]

24. Not me. Giuliani practically launched his mayoral campaign at a police riot...

...over the oversight commission Mayor David Dinkins' administration was setting up back in the early 90s.

[Proud liberal 80]

3. I normally like unions

But hate police unions...and hate how Republicans attack all other unions, but them

[bluestarone]

6. Back when the White House (RUMP) invited all the Sheriff's

I was soo pissed! I guess that's ALL part of the plan. (i bet putin did this the same way) Get law enforcement behind them FIRST then proceed with your takeover plan!!

[uponit7771]

7. +1, The guy who screws with US mail to gimp voting is a negative force

[jcgoldie]

9. I used to feel a little guilty turning those police union guys down when they called for donation...

...based on what I've learned over the past few months about the role of these "unions" I have zero qualms about telling them to go piss up a rope.

[uponit7771]

13. +1, I don't think its all PD unions but the ones who support racism in Red Don can go fuck off. As a

... black man that's some scary shit, it doesn't look like there's a good look here.

[DFW]

10. I'm guessing, but

I suspect the vote was not unanimous. Maybe the result was even derived by using Republican/Stalinist vote-counting methods.

"Those who cast the votes decide nothing. Those who count the votes decide everything."

[uponit7771]

12. True, but voting to support racism being a plurality or majority doesn't sound that much better.

[DFW]

15. Of course not

However, every time I'm in NYC, I see plenty of black and Hispanic cops. I have a hard time believing they supported this endorsement.

[uponit7771]

25. Same, its time some brave souls speak out against enabling hatred

[Thekaspervote]

16. It would be interesting to know if this comes from the leadership or the members

Lots of times the two are not one in the same

[not_the_one]

20. Then the membership needs to make that abundantly clear.

New Yorkers need to let them know how they feel.

Spit in the face of the people of your city, and they won't take it kindly, even if you ARE a cop.

Remember, there was also a faction of Hillary haters in the police department.

edit to add, this isn't just about funding. There are a lot of racist, bully, REPUBLICAN cops. They need to be purged.

[Ritabert]

18. Sorry NYPD

This pretty much proves the point of BLM protestors.

[Iliyah]

21. I believe a high % of police officers in the country are not . . .

shithole supporters but I must say the police unions are pretty much out of touch with the communities in the USA.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

23. 53% of the NYPD is minority.

Police as a group lean right. That being said I can't believe all cops, especially minority ones are Trumpies.

[dhol82]

27. There were quite a few (couple hundred) police who showed up at Bedminster for the announcement

Sorry, couldn’t get just the picture to post.

https://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/ny-pba-endorses-trump-20200814-pzuvzzp37nc7tpd53ojq3rbkhi-story.html

Seems like a good sized number of supporters.

[Trumpocalypse]

29. Pat Lynch, head of the PBA, is a racist

Has been for years.

[uponit7771]

30. Crap, that sucks for people of NY ... just damn

[0rganism]

31. proving definitively that PDs must be rebuilt from the ground up

when they cannot be trusted to effectively protect or serve their communities' members