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George II

(67,782 posts)
Tue Aug 18, 2020, 12:20 PM Aug 2020

These color coded maps of the US showing trend of deaths are ridiculous. Today's map on CNN shows..

....Connecticut as dark red, the highest increase range (over 50%) compared to the same day last week.

Last week we had ZERO deaths, yesterday we had three. So that "qualifies" CT for the highest increase rate!! We're the same as Florida, Texas, Georgia, etc.

It's ridiculously misleading. No mention that the number of people in the hospital is at an all-time low, only 42 state-wide.

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These color coded maps of the US showing trend of deaths are ridiculous. Today's map on CNN shows.. (Original Post) George II Aug 2020 OP
I agree Maine deaths have been rare recently jpak Aug 2020 #1
Connecticut really is doing fabulously. Well done. Squinch Aug 2020 #2
I think... Mike Nelson Aug 2020 #3
CNN, after a couple of months of doing well, is backsliding Mike 03 Aug 2020 #4
I agree Sunsky Aug 2020 #7
Yes. They misrepresent WA too. nolabear Aug 2020 #5
I think the maps should reflect cases within the population density of the state. Silver1 Aug 2020 #6
The only metric that matters is new cases per captia over the past week tinrobot Aug 2020 #8
I frequently look at PoindexterOglethorpe Aug 2020 #9
That's a good site, thanks! George II Aug 2020 #11
There were 9 deaths last week (depending on when you cut the week) Ms. Toad Aug 2020 #10

jpak

(41,758 posts)
1. I agree Maine deaths have been rare recently
Tue Aug 18, 2020, 12:23 PM
Aug 2020

But we did have a super spreader event this week.

Wedding reception

Ugh

Mike Nelson

(9,960 posts)
3. I think...
Tue Aug 18, 2020, 12:28 PM
Aug 2020

... also, those maps are great at showing which states have higher populations. CA was always redder than AZ, even when AZ was worse, percentage-wise. Why do we need maps to show us the states with the highest populations have the most cases?

Mike 03

(16,616 posts)
4. CNN, after a couple of months of doing well, is backsliding
Tue Aug 18, 2020, 12:31 PM
Aug 2020

to intellectual dishonesty. One example: Last night Erin Burnett was doing both-siderism on the USPS, talking about how it had "lost money" and asking querulously, "Isn't there some truth to what Trump is saying about how badly the USPS is being operated?"

It's not a corporation; it's a public service! How many of our institutions are not "profitable"!??

Sunsky

(1,737 posts)
7. I agree
Tue Aug 18, 2020, 01:30 PM
Aug 2020

"CNN, after a couple of months of doing well, is backsliding"
A few months ago I started watching CNN again after many years and actually found substantive and engaging programs. Over the past week that have changed, like the flick of a switch they're back to bothsidesism and polls showing a horse race.

nolabear

(41,987 posts)
5. Yes. They misrepresent WA too.
Tue Aug 18, 2020, 12:32 PM
Aug 2020

I have dealt with us still being in the “high rate of cases” category because we were Ground Zero and so the numbers are high in relation to those peaking now. But we had around 250 cases yesterday, and the decrease is steady. Our efforts are paying off, even in agriculture country where it got bad for a while, and I think people should see that!

Silver1

(721 posts)
6. I think the maps should reflect cases within the population density of the state.
Tue Aug 18, 2020, 12:33 PM
Aug 2020

In other words, number of cases per 1,000 or 100,000, etc. It would be a much more accurate assessment.

tinrobot

(10,903 posts)
8. The only metric that matters is new cases per captia over the past week
Tue Aug 18, 2020, 01:37 PM
Aug 2020

Or something similar. You have to show what proportion of the population is currently getting sick.

I don't like the maps that simply show total number of cases. California almost twice as many people as the next biggest states. Of course we'll have more cases than Iowa.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,862 posts)
9. I frequently look at
Tue Aug 18, 2020, 02:41 PM
Aug 2020

this site: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries

Each of the columns can be sorted, which is very useful. If you click on the USA, for instance, you get the states, already sorted by number of cases.

I tend to think that the deaths per million of population is far and away the most useful number. Also, keep an eye on India. If their deaths per million rises to 100, they'll have well over a million deaths there. However, I suspect their numbers are vastly, vastly, underreported. Which is probably also true of a lot of countries.

Ms. Toad

(34,076 posts)
10. There were 9 deaths last week (depending on when you cut the week)
Tue Aug 18, 2020, 02:53 PM
Aug 2020

But when there is a low number of deaths, small changes create dramatic changes. It would be better to use change in deaths to cases or change in deaths to population - something which gives some context.

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