I do hope that Biden is planning on visiting Wisconsin

[question everything]

I kinda remember that Hillary was chastised for never visiting there. And I think that this was one reason to select Milwaukee. Well, Milwaukee and Wisconsin lost big. And now I read that neither Biden nor Harris plan to visit. I hope that the campaign reconsider.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

1. I'm not sure how much visiting anywhere there will be this year.

Campaign visits encourage people to assemble in groups and that seems to be a mostly Trump thing. They could do online visits targeted to specific states but I'm not expecting traditional rallies anywhere.

[BannonsLiver]

2. Huh

Did you miss the part about the pandemic?

[Jimbo S]

20. I'm sure it can be done safely.

I take this pandemic seriously, but one has to start using common sense and not give in to the fear porn.

[BannonsLiver]

26. Yeah, I hear that a lot

....From Republicans.

[Jimbo S]

30. I'm serious

Everyone was up in arms when Wisconsin voted in April during the pandemic and guess what? No one died! It was determined maybe an extra two dozen positive cases due to voting.

The Trumpsters held an Open Wisconsin rally on 25 April. About 2,000 attended. No one died! No one got sick.

[Funtatlaguy]

3. They should at least do a lot of local Wisconsin tv and radio interviews from Delaware.

[question everything]

23. Yes, this is a great idea

[MineralMan]

4. There aren't going to be big, rally-style visits anywhere.

Remember COVID-19?

Wisconsin Democrats are going to have to do their own GOTV work, I think. Will they?

[buzzards97]

7. Article has documentary that talks about WI special election

This article has a 17 minute documentary on the democratic efforts to help with voting during the WI special election that resulted in the surprise win of the D Supreme Court judge.


I expect they are equally busy for the fall presidential election.

[link:https://www.thedailybeast.com/the-shocking-upset-that-shows-how-democrats-can-crush-trump|

[Greybnk48]

5. I'm not sure how important a couple of "airport screamers"

are for any candidate. Biden can't come to any of our large venues, so what can he do other than the screamers that President Needy is doing?

He could come to Lambeau Field, if they would allow it. Or Miller park, maybe.

[CTyankee]

12. This time, our candidate better not call it "Lambert Field."

[Greybnk48]

14. Maybe Lambeau is not the best venue.

A reminder of that horrible gaff by Kerry! Joe's been to this rodeo before, many times, so we can relax.

[Drunken Irishman]

6. If this were a normal election, I'd agree. But it isn't.

There won't be huge rallies or any rallies at all. I guess he could go there to give a speech to a smattering of people but I don't know how effective that will be.

What he does need to do is local news interviews in these swing states.

[BumRushDaShow]

11. "What he does need to do is local news interviews in these swing states."

This would be the best way to handle it - appear on the "local" media outlets throughout the state (assuming he is invited and if not, offer it up). That way the coverage will be shown "locally" there for those who are not really following "politics" on cable news shows (which is MOST people) but they will "see" the candidate on their local news stations.

[question everything]

24. Great idea. Thanks

[CaptYossarian]

8. Hillary not coming here was just a sliver.

The 23,000 no-shows came from the Fitzgerald-Vos voter suppression team.

[luv2fly]

9. I have to agree

I'm curious where you read this?

Anyways, in rural parts of the state where covid-19 is really low I would think it might be possible to hold very small group, almost one-to-one discussions that could be televised by local stations. Joe's ability to connect 1 to 1 with people is one of his greatest strengths and it doesn't play as well on Zoom.

The Madison area is safe, no need to go there. Milwaukee got screwed so it'd be nice if they could find a way to reach out to Milwaukee's voters.

[CTyankee]

13. See my response #12 re "Lambert Field."

[question everything]

28. With Democratic convention online, host city Milwaukee eerily quiet

A NYT reprinted in the Minneapolis Star Tribune

The Milwaukee pullout culminated early this month with the news that neither former Vice President Joe Biden nor his running mate, Sen. Kamala Harris, would be traveling here. The last wave of media people, celebrities and hard-core political junkies canceled. Signs and banners came down.

https://www.startribune.com/with-democratic-convention-online-host-city-milwaukee-eerily-quiet/572176712/

And, yes, I agree that online visits would be nice. From some of the clips that I saw in the Convention, Biden has "met" with people like that.

[W_HAMILTON]

10. Democrats basically lived in Pennsylvania that year and it didn't result in them winning that state.

Face it, it was just a perfect storm of bullshit and our country has been suffering ever since. Every individual eligible American voter should take it upon themselves to fix our country's collective mistake from that year.

[LizBeth]

15. perfect storm of bullshit

Yup.

[betsuni]

16. Why do people in Wisconsin need candidates to come and personally kiss their butt?

They don't have television sets or computer machines or radios? Does every person in Wisconsin have to go to a rally before they can tell the difference between the two parties? Why? What's wrong with them?

[luv2fly]

17. Why the snark?

Like we don't get enough grief in this world already, there's a need to inflict it on others here as well?

[betsuni]

18. Because I don't understand why people in Wisconsin have to go to rallies to understand

the difference between the parties. Why are rallies so important to them?

[Jimbo S]

19. I live in Wisconsin

If you talk to people in the rural areas, the topic that comes up is "no one will listen to us". In 2016, Trump made numerous visits to Wisconsin, Clinton none. It gave the impression that "Trump, not Clinton, cares about us". Trump/Pence/Eric made individual stops here this week. It's about optics.

[marlakay]

22. I think Joe should go at least once carefully

In a small venue maybe how they did it last night at a parking lot.

[Awsi Dooger]

34. I think he should do one also

Same thing in states like Florida and Arizona and North Carolina and Ohio

I do think a certain segment responds to the more traditional style, and the notion the candidate needs to show up.

If not, the ad campaigns need to be damn good. The one aspect I didn't like about the convention was lack of emphasis toward the Hispanic vote. That doesn't impact Wisconsin but is everything here in Florida

[betsuni]

27. Why is a person giving a speech at a rally "listening to us"? It's talking, not listening.

Obviously Trump/Pence/Eric don't listen to anybody. When Democrats pay too much attention to anyone it's called pandering or identity politics.

[Jimbo S]

29. You may be right

But I'm just saying. It's optics. Trump shows up in someplace in northern Wisconsin and people go "See, at least someone cares enough about us come here."

Clinton lost WI by 22,000 votes. What I said above is considered the root cause of her losing this state.

[question everything]

36. Shields and Brooks expressed a similar opinion

&t=341s

At the 4:00 min mark

and the transcript:

David Brooks:

What they did not do is go to the heart of this electorate, which is working-class voters in the Upper Midwest. It's sort of mind-boggling to me. In 2016, Hillary Clinton made a colossal error by ignoring those voters in Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, and Michigan and such places.

And if the Democrats lose those states again, the indictment — and a correct indictment — will be that they made the exact same mistake in 2020 as they made in 2016.

And I think it's just because they don't have the vocabulary or the cultural knowledge to know how to talk to those voters. I just think there are not enough people in the Democratic Party who emerge from those communities and know what concerns them and know how to talk to them.

And it could just be an inherent error and shortage in the party.

Mark Shields:

Well, I think Joe Biden has an enormous advantage over Hillary Clinton in that respect, just in his natural rapport and his record in dealing with working people and working issues.

But the Democrats have to be wary of becoming a party that — where people shower before work, instead of after work, who don't work by the hour, who don't pack a lunch. And I think that remains a problem.

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/shields-and-brooks-on-bidens-dnc-performance-trumps-rnc-approach

[StevieM]

48. The level of dishonesty here is sickening.

HRC did not ignore voters in Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania. She spent the whole election focused on the battleground states. She reached out to every voter.

And her record with working class people sure seemed good back in 2008 when she won them decisively.

[StevieM]

45. The media has said it was the root cause. The facts and the evidence tells a different story. (eom)

[StevieM]

43. They don't.

There is no evidence that the 2016 election was decided by where the candidates held their rallies. That is just something the media made up after the election so that they could kick the crap out of Hillary.

[betsuni]

46. Thank you! I haven't seen any evidence rallies make any difference.

The idea that a candidate has to go to every village and town in swing states or people feel like they aren't listened to is absurd. It's not the 19th century.

Also seeing whining about not having enough yard signs, familiar from 2016.

[question everything]

49. The "Powers that be" obviously thought so, hence selecting Milwaukee for the Convention

I really don't know. Also why it has been so important to report that the Kardashian guy will not be on the ballot in Wisconsin.

[Jimbo S]

21. I drove through downtown Milwaukee Thursday

An electronic billboard sign "Where's Joe?"

[question everything]

25. Ouch!

[bookghostwriter]

31. No airplane for campaign travel

Yeah, I read that they don't even have their own airplane for air travel and that they really plan to stay digital/virtual only - all the way to November!!! Very poor strategy. Got to get out in-person. Just find ways to make it safe and socially distanced, like the parking lot drive-in show outside the convention center after Joe's acceptance speech last night. In '92, Clinton-Gore did their bus tour, and of course Truman did his train campaign tour. Biden-Harris could be the first drive-in campaign in history!!

[Hekate]

40. I see what you see

[Agschmid]

41. Don't we all...

[question everything]

33. I think that as suggested above, he can have virtual meetings

Let the local party identity several Wisconsinites and have a virtual town hall meeting that will at least be mentioned in local TV and radio station.

I am sure that farmers will ask about tariffs.

And welcome to DU.

[Evergreen Emerald]

35. Seriously?

Stomping feet and whining because they may not get a visit? Seriously? People know the choices. They have seen what has happened the last four years. If they are not going to vote for someone because they did not get a visit...they are beyond help.

[question everything]

37. As many have noted, above: no, not rallies, but "zooming" with Wisconsinites

to provide material for local TV and radio. To hear farmers concerns about the Tariff.

[milestogo]

38. Normally I would agree, but there aren't going to be any big rallies this year

so I don't think it matters.

[Hekate]

39. I never really understood holding a grudge against a good candidate for "not visiting my state"

My state has 40 million people and is 770 miles long and 250 miles wide and is split up by high rugged mountain ranges, not just freeways. My chances of ever getting to see a presidential candidate are slim to none.

I mean,

[StevieM]

44. The story isn't real, it never was.

Nobody cared about where the candidates held their rallies until after the election was over and the media made up this silly story.

[betsuni]

47. I don't even remember there being rallies in my state, didn't hear about them anyway.

I'd have to be paid to go to one. I always think, who do people think they are that they demand personal attention from candidates for national office? It's a big fucking country and it's the 21st century.

[JI7]

42. It's too bad they are ok with the racism and other bigotry

[we can do it]

50. P A N D E M I C....I hope they stay home.

[question everything]

51. Have you been watching the Convention? Did you see all the zooming that Biden had with so many

citizens?

Ditto that.

[we can do it]

52. ❤️Yes, watched most of it. ❤️

Reach everyone at the same time.