Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search
 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
Sat Sep 22, 2012, 02:18 AM Sep 2012

This message was self-deleted by its author

This message was self-deleted by its author (jberryhill) on Mon Jan 11, 2021, 10:12 AM. When the original post in a discussion thread is self-deleted, the entire discussion thread is automatically locked so new replies cannot be posted.

15 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
This message was self-deleted by its author (Original Post) jberryhill Sep 2012 OP
this extremely wealthy person uses a 23 year old obsolete jet? guess it was cheap nt msongs Sep 2012 #1
With proper maintenance, I dunno if that's a factor jberryhill Sep 2012 #2
It's hardly obsolete PD Turk Sep 2012 #9
Is 3.6M a lot for a business jet? jberryhill Sep 2012 #11
I don't know PD Turk Sep 2012 #12
Well, yes, a paraglider would be a lot for me jberryhill Sep 2012 #13
Ow! tavalon Sep 2012 #15
No way DemKittyNC Sep 2012 #3
Well, maybe Mitt really was "tired of her" jberryhill Sep 2012 #5
If he was connected DemKittyNC Sep 2012 #7
Well... jberryhill Sep 2012 #8
How terrible :( DemKittyNC Sep 2012 #10
Perhaps this weekend, "the wheels have all come off" would be Warpy Sep 2012 #4
That's the thing that bothers me - fire jberryhill Sep 2012 #6
I wouldn't be surprised... lexw Sep 2012 #14

msongs

(67,473 posts)
1. this extremely wealthy person uses a 23 year old obsolete jet? guess it was cheap nt
Sat Sep 22, 2012, 02:20 AM
Sep 2012
 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
2. With proper maintenance, I dunno if that's a factor
Sat Sep 22, 2012, 02:25 AM
Sep 2012

But I know jack about airworthiness.

They probably own it, sold it to the finance company which then loaned them the money to buy it back. The finance company is then owned by a trust to which they are beneficiaries. That way, they don't "own" the jet, but they can deduct the expense of paying themselves for it.

PD Turk

(1,289 posts)
9. It's hardly obsolete
Sat Sep 22, 2012, 02:44 AM
Sep 2012

In fact, it's still in production today as the model 605. And it's hardly cheap, this fine example of a '89 model is priced at $3.6 million.

http://www.avprojets.com/view_aircraft/303/Bombardier_Challenger%20601-3A_SN_5052.html

With aircraft, the model year isn't nearly as important as the number of hours/cycles and maintenance history.

Well maintained aircraft can last a long, long time. I recently had the pleasure of flying with a friend in his 72 year old Beech 18. The old plane is in fabulous shape and it was a real joy to fly

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
11. Is 3.6M a lot for a business jet?
Sat Sep 22, 2012, 02:48 AM
Sep 2012

And how much extra is the fuselage kennel?

PD Turk

(1,289 posts)
12. I don't know
Sat Sep 22, 2012, 02:53 AM
Sep 2012

But $3.6m is a lot of money to a poor boy like me lol

I'm not sure about the price of a FAA approved plane top dog carrier , I'll look it up and get back to you

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
13. Well, yes, a paraglider would be a lot for me
Sat Sep 22, 2012, 02:56 AM
Sep 2012

But these things are relative.

tavalon

(27,985 posts)
15. Ow!
Sat Sep 22, 2012, 05:16 AM
Sep 2012

Good one! Seamus thanks you from Doggie Heaven.

DemKittyNC

(743 posts)
3. No way
Sat Sep 22, 2012, 02:26 AM
Sep 2012

I could ever be a politician. I am scared to death of flying. I am glad they are alright. I am even more glad that Rmoney's Campaign is going down in flames as well. I couldn't be happier. It seems like going down in flames is working out for both of them lately.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
5. Well, maybe Mitt really was "tired of her"
Sat Sep 22, 2012, 02:28 AM
Sep 2012

Hmmm... Has he been hanging around any aircraft hangars lately?

DemKittyNC

(743 posts)
7. If he was connected
Sat Sep 22, 2012, 02:34 AM
Sep 2012

I would not be the least bit surprised. As heartless as he is and as stupid as he thinks this plan would be right up his alley. (Take out my wife in an "accident" and then I will get rid of her and get all that sympathy from the American people and they will just have to VOTE for me! It's got to work!! How can anyone vote against a man who just lost his wife in a horrible accident?)

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
8. Well...
Sat Sep 22, 2012, 02:40 AM
Sep 2012

It was between the election and the convening of Congress that Joe Biden lost his wife, and his kids were seriously injured. That was about a mile from where I live, and that intersection is a somber spot for everyone around here.

DemKittyNC

(743 posts)
10. How terrible :(
Sat Sep 22, 2012, 02:46 AM
Sep 2012

Joe is such a great man and it is an inspiration to see such a great man keeping strong and still out there fighting the good fight. I would never wish anyone to lose a member of their family or loved ones even Mitten's so I was glad everyone was alright today.

Warpy

(111,412 posts)
4. Perhaps this weekend, "the wheels have all come off" would be
Sat Sep 22, 2012, 02:28 AM
Sep 2012

a better metaphor for the Romney [s]disaster[/s], uh, campaign.

After all, any fire aboard a plane is a harrowing experience. People have died in them even when the plane has safely landed, not having time to get down the emergency chutes.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
6. That's the thing that bothers me - fire
Sat Sep 22, 2012, 02:32 AM
Sep 2012

I fly a LOT, and understand the safety statistics. Besides, if we are going to hit the ground at 300 mph, that's okay.

But the idea of a bad landing and a raging fire is the one that really nags at me.

Heck, I don't know how those people stood on those freezing cold wet wings in the Hudson - that would have done me in.

lexw

(804 posts)
14. I wouldn't be surprised...
Sat Sep 22, 2012, 04:52 AM
Sep 2012

...if the plane incident was a "smoke screen" to cover when Romney released his "taxes."

Latest Discussions»General Discussion»This message was self-del...