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GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
Sun Aug 23, 2020, 05:45 PM Aug 2020

Shut a trumper today. And it felt good. Even my wife of 33 years was impressed.

We went to Breweries in Sanford Florida with a good friend. She is the only one inside our ‘bubble’. Works with the wife although from home 4/5 days.

Anyway we are at the bar with just the masked young, cute bartender and one other customer 15 feet away who was young and obviously flirting with the bartender. Nothing inappropriate. Believe me it was safe. When another middle aged couple came in. Heavyish woman and the man way probably a little bigger than me. They had hardly been there 5 minutes when he said this whole virus will disappear in November. His wife said there may be Democrats in here so be careful. 6 months ago I would have not said a word, but no more. I told him there are 3 democrats Right here and I came to drink beer, not listen to bullshit. He shut his pie hole right up. Told him we can agree about good beer if he wants and he was all about that. We left shortly thereafter as we had another brewery to visit.

As we walked away my wife asked me what was that about. Told here I was not going to sit there and listen to a bunch of republican bullshit. Then told her, verbatim ‘they are fucking cowards. Unless they outnumber us they clam right up.”

Won’t change his mind. But now he knows not to assume that guys who look like him welcome his bullshit.

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Shut a trumper today. And it felt good. Even my wife of 33 years was impressed. (Original Post) GulfCoast66 Aug 2020 OP
Good one! FakeNoose Aug 2020 #1
I love this gif. So much. BlancheSplanchnik Aug 2020 #41
Well Played Sir! Tribalceltic Aug 2020 #2
Wow, they really do think COVID-19 is just an election stunt... Beartracks Aug 2020 #3
I've heard it before. But I'm done staying polite. GulfCoast66 Aug 2020 #6
My next door neighbor Jimbo S Aug 2020 #47
Props To You! nt sfstaxprep Aug 2020 #4
That's how it's done. brush Aug 2020 #5
Good for you mgardener Aug 2020 #7
Nicely done! Dream Girl Aug 2020 #8
Good for you! I am on my laptop now, so I can comment on a very important observation you make. OAITW r.2.0 Aug 2020 #9
You sure are braver than I. cwydro Aug 2020 #10
Our breweries are doing a great job. GulfCoast66 Aug 2020 #14
I had a bout with the virus at the beginning of August. cwydro Aug 2020 #18
Wow! So glad you recovered. Does that mean you now have antibodies and are immune? GulfCoast66 Aug 2020 #21
Any idea how you got it? Tess49 Aug 2020 #37
No. I've stayed home since the lockdown. cwydro Aug 2020 #53
That's scary. Sorry you became so ill. Tess49 Aug 2020 #54
Well, I have no underlying conditions and in good shape physically. cwydro Aug 2020 #55
I'm doing the same thing, as a "treat/calculated risk"! As a cyclist, I travel around bullwinkle428 Aug 2020 #20
Key takeaway for me... jmbar2 Aug 2020 #11
I live in a small rural town in Central Maine. OAITW r.2.0 Aug 2020 #15
Great procedure: first the slice, then the defuser...perfect! Karadeniz Aug 2020 #12
That's spot-on. They're always loud-in-crowd. Grokenstein Aug 2020 #13
I think they've gotten by with lying and bullshit so long... Trueblue Texan Aug 2020 #16
Never gave a thought to safety. Not my style. GulfCoast66 Aug 2020 #19
Broken hand? Me too and also at age 14! Ligyron Aug 2020 #25
I broke the finger, the metacarpal and cracked one of the bones in my wrist. I hit the kid hard. GulfCoast66 Aug 2020 #27
Broken hand? Me too and also at age 14! Ligyron Aug 2020 #26
Had a neighbor tell me the same nonsense, shook my head and walked away. sarcasmo Aug 2020 #17
Come to think of it... Trueblue Texan Aug 2020 #22
Fox news must be spouting that nonsense. sarcasmo Aug 2020 #24
Fuck trumpists. warmfeet Aug 2020 #23
Good for you.. mountain grammy Aug 2020 #28
👍 Joinfortmill Aug 2020 #29
Impressing the wife? Yeah, that musta been something! KentuckyWoman Aug 2020 #30
You hit the nail one the head! GulfCoast66 Aug 2020 #31
In my case the training went both ways. KentuckyWoman Aug 2020 #33
Sorry for you loss. I can't imagine the pain. GulfCoast66 Aug 2020 #35
And you still managed to bring it all back to agreement on beer!! oldsoftie Aug 2020 #32
I'm proud of you. Hulk Aug 2020 #34
They say the anti-maskers often have sociopathic tendencies Beringia Aug 2020 #36
They were not anti-maskers. Had they been they would have been denied entrance. GulfCoast66 Aug 2020 #38
Evil flourishes when good people are silent. SunSeeker Aug 2020 #39
Actually he's kind of correct... Layzeebeaver Aug 2020 #40
He will not disappear in Nov or Jan grantcart Aug 2020 #42
Make them doubt themselves. Demoralize them. bucolic_frolic Aug 2020 #43
"Virus will disappear in November"...how convieeeenient. oasis Aug 2020 #44
Not safe IMO. nt USALiberal Aug 2020 #45
Cheers to you! Good job.🍻 Firestorm49 Aug 2020 #46
It's a hardened cult in full sleeper cell mode Azathoth Aug 2020 #48
Does her weight matter? LisaM Aug 2020 #49
Does her weight matter? LisaM Aug 2020 #50
Very few places in Sanford that I go without a white friend. Baitball Blogger Aug 2020 #51
Gotta hold your grounds, good job! BlueJac Aug 2020 #52

Beartracks

(12,712 posts)
3. Wow, they really do think COVID-19 is just an election stunt...
Sun Aug 23, 2020, 06:07 PM
Aug 2020

... for which the usefulness will end in November -- after Trump wins, of course -- and so the virus "hoax" will disappear just like all the campaign ads.

Dumb-fucking-believable.

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GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
6. I've heard it before. But I'm done staying polite.
Sun Aug 23, 2020, 06:09 PM
Aug 2020

Policy differences I am fine with. Start with the CT shit and I’m giving pushback.

Jimbo S

(2,943 posts)
47. My next door neighbor
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 01:09 PM
Aug 2020

"All this talk will go away after the election.""I'm not feeling sick. I don't have to wear a mask."

mgardener

(1,788 posts)
7. Good for you
Sun Aug 23, 2020, 06:37 PM
Aug 2020

I am just sick of them.

How stupid is this couple?
They were told once before that it would go away in April.
And they fell for the same bs?

OAITW r.2.0

(23,271 posts)
9. Good for you! I am on my laptop now, so I can comment on a very important observation you make.
Sun Aug 23, 2020, 06:49 PM
Aug 2020

(I read DU on the phone, but my texting skills suck.)

‘they are fucking cowards. Unless they outnumber us they clam right up.”


That's it in a nutshell. They talk loud, but say nothing. They argue on a emotional, nonfactual basis. When you challenge their fallacies with facts, they don't know how to respond. Especially when you engage calmly and determinedly.

The only time you lose is when they outnumber you 4 or 5 to 1. Then you get all of them shouting easily refuted lies at the same time - a team building experience for them - and, so - at that point - is it worth engaging further? I don't.

Kind of like where the German people were, when Hitler came to power. That ended well.....

om edit: Our best strategy is to engage at the 1-to-1 level and educate them.
 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
10. You sure are braver than I.
Sun Aug 23, 2020, 06:52 PM
Aug 2020

Can’t imagine going out for beers during this time.

And my state is not near the hotspot Florida is.

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
14. Our breweries are doing a great job.
Sun Aug 23, 2020, 07:02 PM
Aug 2020

Realize most of the are not like Bars. Few people go to get drunk. It’s a sedate crowd.

Everyone wears masks to enter and the ones I frequent have us sitting over 10 feet apart. Everyone wears masks until their beers arrive. And moving between groups or moving tables is strictly prohibited. If you get up to go to the bathroom you have to wear masks. And many have outdoor seating.

I was reluctant to return because the horror story about bars. But the breweries are under a lot of scrutiny and are being pretty draconian about enforcing the rules.

If the things Fauci says are to believed this is how we can have a safe, functional economy. I feel safer than at the grocery where I pass close to strangers.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
18. I had a bout with the virus at the beginning of August.
Sun Aug 23, 2020, 07:10 PM
Aug 2020

Not been out of my house/yard except for an occasional grocery run since the pandemic began. You couldn’t pay me to go into a public restroom.

I had a “mild” case according to my doctor. Sickest I’ve ever been.

Temps ranged from 100 at the onset to four days of temps of 102 to 104. Headaches, body aches beyond belief. Sweated through my sheets three nights in a row. Chills so bad I cranked the ac into the 80s. The worst thing was the fear that it might worsen.

Again, you’re braver than I.

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
21. Wow! So glad you recovered. Does that mean you now have antibodies and are immune?
Sun Aug 23, 2020, 07:21 PM
Aug 2020

I figure we all might get it, but if everyone takes the recommendation seriously our chances are reduced. But not eliminated, of course.

Stay well.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
53. No. I've stayed home since the lockdown.
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 03:33 PM
Aug 2020

Picked up my groceries except for one time about ten days before I got sick. I stopped in to get cat food.

Numerous idiots without masks that day, crowded and no one social distancing. Was so freaked I even took a shower when I came home, but it had to be that day.

It’s a damn nasty virus, just awful.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
55. Well, I have no underlying conditions and in good shape physically.
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 03:55 PM
Aug 2020

I was terrified because I did have asthma badly as a child. But no breathing problems.

As my doctor said, it was a “mild” case. I can’t remember the last time I even had a cold, so it was a rough week and a half. The fever was scary. I really felt besieged by an awful enemy. I’ve never had a fever that high except for appendicitis at age 11.

Still having brain fog, and not back to my usual energy. I can’t imagine it being worse.

It makes me feel even more horrified for what those who are hospitalized must suffer.

bullwinkle428

(20,625 posts)
20. I'm doing the same thing, as a "treat/calculated risk"! As a cyclist, I travel around
Sun Aug 23, 2020, 07:19 PM
Aug 2020

to ride in different spots here in the upper Midwest, and seek out microbreweries in the area I'm visiting. I always make sure they have some kind of outdoor seating, or at least a setup where it's open air. I'm always there around mid-afternoon, so the places are nowhere near crowded at that time of day. All of the employees at the places I've visited have been masked, and I leave mine on as well until I sit down to drink.

jmbar2

(4,777 posts)
11. Key takeaway for me...
Sun Aug 23, 2020, 06:54 PM
Aug 2020

They really don't realize that they are in the minority because their media bubble makes them think that everyone agrees with them, but for a few "others".

It's important for them to recognize that not all white people think like they do. Shock!

OAITW r.2.0

(23,271 posts)
15. I live in a small rural town in Central Maine.
Sun Aug 23, 2020, 07:06 PM
Aug 2020

Lived here since the early 80's....except for an 8 year hiatus to Brockton, MA. Like 2 different worlds. In social interaction and thinking. Very provincial thinking up in Maine; limited education for many (HS). Everyone knows each other and share political/social opinions exclusively so they are pretty insulated - and I doubt they realize it. My Mass experience was obviously totally different. Great diversity and enlightened, educated people.

Grokenstein

(5,695 posts)
13. That's spot-on. They're always loud-in-crowd.
Sun Aug 23, 2020, 07:02 PM
Aug 2020

If we react with silence, they tell themselves it's either tacit support or cowardice.

If we call them out, they scuttle into their shells, only coming back out when it's "safe."

If we teach them it's never "safe," they'll never come out of their damn shells again.

Trueblue Texan

(2,321 posts)
16. I think they've gotten by with lying and bullshit so long...
Sun Aug 23, 2020, 07:07 PM
Aug 2020

...with so little confrontation of the facts, they have been spoiled to believe their lies are believed and somehow become accurate if they don't get any flack about them. We need to change that. Just like the epiphany I had all those years ago when I realized I was contributing to racism if I didn't speak up against it when I witnessed it , I have recently realized we are contributing to the lies and misinformation when we don't call it out. It can be terribly uncomfortable and even dangerous, but at the very least we are making at least one of the thugs a bit less comfortable with spreading lies and inaccuracies. So good for you! I am glad there were 3 of you, but I have a feeling you wouldn't have been quiet if it had just been you. Thank you for your courage and patriotism!

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
19. Never gave a thought to safety. Not my style.
Sun Aug 23, 2020, 07:17 PM
Aug 2020

He was not going to do anything. And had he I remember a lesson my dad gave me after my last real fight at 14 ending with my opponent battered and me with a broken hand.

Once you are an adult you should never get into a fight. But if you a victim of assault and battery pick up the heaviest thing you can find and defend yourself upside their head. I’ve only had to do that one time in my life.

Ligyron

(7,565 posts)
25. Broken hand? Me too and also at age 14!
Sun Aug 23, 2020, 07:57 PM
Aug 2020

Well fractured actually, fractured metacarpal. Very common among boxers I was told.

I had to go to the doctor and get a cast and wear that damn thing for 8 weeks but I "won" the fight because he was a bloody mess and I remained pretty much untouched.

When it comes to fights, they're a lot like wars as far as "winning" goes.

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
27. I broke the finger, the metacarpal and cracked one of the bones in my wrist. I hit the kid hard.
Sun Aug 23, 2020, 08:03 PM
Aug 2020

It was my right middle finger which was immobilized Straight out in a splint attached to the cast. So for 6 weeks I walked around flipping off the world! At 14 I rather enjoyed that.

Last fight for me.

Ligyron

(7,565 posts)
26. Broken hand? Me too and also at age 14!
Sun Aug 23, 2020, 07:57 PM
Aug 2020

Well fractured actually, fractured metacarpal. Very common among boxers I was told.

I had to go to the doctor and get a cast and wear that damn thing for 8 weeks but I "won" the fight because he was a bloody mess and I remained pretty much untouched.

Well, except for the Doctor and that damn cast and all.

When it comes to fights, they're a lot like wars as far as "winning" goes.

Trueblue Texan

(2,321 posts)
22. Come to think of it...
Sun Aug 23, 2020, 07:22 PM
Aug 2020

I had a patient tell me this the other day...she didn't really finish what her thought was and I certainly didn't comment. She is 90 so I'm not going to bother arguing with her. But I wondered where it was coming from and what the new argument/talking point coming out of the right was about.

warmfeet

(3,321 posts)
23. Fuck trumpists.
Sun Aug 23, 2020, 07:44 PM
Aug 2020

When every last one of them is gone, I will be ever vigilant of the next batch.

Fuck them all!

mountain grammy

(26,481 posts)
28. Good for you..
Sun Aug 23, 2020, 08:07 PM
Aug 2020

I too will not be silent. I won't bring it up, but if someone else does , I speak up. Don't expect to change their mind but I'll call out the BS..

KentuckyWoman

(6,636 posts)
30. Impressing the wife? Yeah, that musta been something!
Sun Aug 23, 2020, 08:17 PM
Aug 2020

We were at a rescue over the weekend that is caring for Gibbons confiscated from a private person who had no business with the pair. They are working to return to the wild but it's iffy... I learned Gibbons mate for live and have a unique "song" they sing every morning and every night to keep their bond strong.

At any rate that male was putting on a show for her swing about, making all kinds of racket ... his mate just laying over in the crook of a tree basically ignoring him. She's heard that noise before.

I admit I did my Mr. like that sometimes. After 50 years plus there's not a whole lot of new ground to cover.... and that is the exact attraction of long term relations.

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
31. You hit the nail one the head!
Sun Aug 23, 2020, 08:25 PM
Aug 2020

After all these years my wife knows my entire routine. It takes something way out of the normal to get a compliment. Would have it no other way. We are best friends for life. And while I’m biased she is much hotter at 60 than she was at 26.

Her favorite comment to friends is that marrying a younger man was the smartest thing she ever did...easier to train!

KentuckyWoman

(6,636 posts)
33. In my case the training went both ways.
Sun Aug 23, 2020, 08:35 PM
Aug 2020

early on I learned green peppers "bothered" him but red, orange and yellow not so much.
Cooking adjusted.

He kept putting my Fels - Naptha soap in what I thought was a weird place that annoyed me at first. Then I realized ...well after the first time.... I know where to look so what's the deal?

On the flip side, I just could never sleep well by the window ... so he taught himself how to sleep on the other side of the bed. He also had to get used to me walking on that side of him.

I'll agree with you. Even with the cancer ... my man was so much more that last year than he was at the beginning. We should all be.

Go hug your Wife. You two are mighty lucky.

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
35. Sorry for you loss. I can't imagine the pain.
Sun Aug 23, 2020, 08:39 PM
Aug 2020

I hope I go first. Could not bear to be without her.

But such is life. We don’t get to choose.

You take care and stay safe.

 

Hulk

(6,699 posts)
34. I'm proud of you.
Sun Aug 23, 2020, 08:39 PM
Aug 2020

It takes guts and smarts to say something that is going to shut some loudmouth, empty-headed fool down cold.

Hope you enjoyed your brewskies

Beringia

(4,310 posts)
36. They say the anti-maskers often have sociopathic tendencies
Sun Aug 23, 2020, 09:25 PM
Aug 2020

So I worry about confronting one, and them getting physical. Like those idiots on the highway that have road rage.

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
38. They were not anti-maskers. Had they been they would have been denied entrance.
Sun Aug 23, 2020, 11:33 PM
Aug 2020

They kept their masks on until their beer arrived. I was surprised when he spouted the CT bullshit.

Layzeebeaver

(1,518 posts)
40. Actually he's kind of correct...
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 05:12 AM
Aug 2020

This "Virus" will disappear in November.

If by Virus we mean Trump.

But only if we inoculate the entire nation by voting a straight democratic ticket (state and federal) across the board.

Azathoth

(4,602 posts)
48. It's a hardened cult in full sleeper cell mode
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 01:17 PM
Aug 2020

They're fully aware that they exist in an alternate reality bubble.

LisaM

(27,716 posts)
49. Does her weight matter?
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 01:28 PM
Aug 2020

I stopped paying attention to this story when you described the woman as "heavyish". Why does that have any bearing on this story? Why?

I was walking my dogs once when a total stranger who didn't want me to walk them in front of her house (because she kept her dog off leash) yelled at me that I should walk my dogs more because I needed to lose a few pounds. It was incredibly hurts and it still stings almost 20 years later.

It bothers me that you said that. Why did you?

LisaM

(27,716 posts)
50. Does her weight matter?
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 01:29 PM
Aug 2020

I stopped paying attention to this story when you described the woman as "heavyish". Why does that have any bearing on this story? Why?

I was walking my dogs once when a total stranger who didn't want me to walk them in front of her house (because she kept her dog off leash) yelled at me that I should walk my dogs more because I needed to lose a few pounds. It was incredibly hurtful and it still stings almost 20 years later.

It bothers me that you said that. Why did you?

Baitball Blogger

(46,442 posts)
51. Very few places in Sanford that I go without a white friend.
Mon Aug 24, 2020, 02:14 PM
Aug 2020

Haven't been there in a while. In the Bush years it was unbearable. I imagine the racism is worse today.

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