Does anyody have any insight into what the consequences of Kenosha might be?

[BigDemVoter]

Last night I was watching MSNBC with Brian Williams, I think? In any case, James Carville was on, and there was a discussion that the events in Kenosha could create a lot of negative issues for Dems. I haven't see anything in particular today that might indicate that more than any other day, but I have no idea. All I read in the NYT this morning was about the man who was shot and paralyzed, and that 45 is planning a "crack down." Of course they always blame the Dems for anything that can be construed as 'anarchy', and even James Carville seemed a bit concerned. He said that Biden "should" be addressing this in no uncertain terms. I, myself, haven't heard anything along those lines EXCEPT for last night. . . .

I am so worried about this goddamned election that I'm not only sleeping badly, but I'm grinding my teeth at night!

[Blecht]

1. The media are ALWAYS looking for ways to frame things

Oooh, this is going to be bad for Biden!

Oooh, this is going to be good for Trump!

Discussions on cable channels should be avoided.

[calguy]

2. I'm not sure what the final effect will be

But I do know that it would have better if it had not happened. Trump will try to use this as a political wedge issue just the way Nixon did in 1968. And will probably get away with it to an extent. Will it be enough to win him the election? Time will tell, but this kind image doesn't do our side any good at all.

[CentralMass]

3. I'm not sure but the FBI was supposed to hold a briefing in Portland this afternoon on the

unrest In Portland.
https://www.koin.com/news/protests/fbi-response-investigations-portland-protests-riots-08262020/
"
The FBI will hold a media briefing with Special Agent Charge Renn Cannon, during which they will explain how the bureau is “balancing its mission to protect First Amendment rights under the Constitution” while also conducting investigations as protests continue."

[unblock]

4. So far, the Blm protests and right wing overreach has all worked well for Biden

I don't see why this shouldn't work well for Biden either.

The only reason for pundits to fret is because polls suggest Biden has the inside track to the White House and any wild card might jeopardize that.

So any "incident" is a potential wild card that *might* play out in Donnie's favor somehow. But they are desperate for some way to link this kind of violence to blm. I don't see that happening in this case, but that's the kind of wild card that could shake things up politically.

[Freethinker65]

5. Trump has been stirring the pot inciting the hatred and violence waiting for it to explode so he can

So Trump can be seen as the savior.

White 17 yo taking up Trump's cause and joining an out of state militia to help protect others from evil minority city dwellers out to do harm killing two protestors is a bit more than Trump wanted, but Trump will try to run with it.

Biden has been releasing videos condemning violence and looting and urging unity to get some meaningful necessary police reform. Biden needs to go live and Democrats need to hammer that message. These violent episodes are a direct result of Trump encouraging not reform, but increased militarization of LE, especially in minority areas.
Trump seeks to divide by hate and fear.

[LizBeth]

6. They keep murdering then telling the left to be nice. Doesn't work that way. Biden did the same.

The murder was wrong, now all you people angry. Be nice.

[Fiendish Thingy]

7. Biden wins Wisconsin?

Don’t see how this is a downside for Biden - it should spur POC and young voters to the polls in record numbers.

Even with GOP/media spin, I don’t think many suburbanites will be scared into voting for Trump.

[mahina]

8. Trust me on this one. Save yourself a whole lot of pain discomfort an expense not to mention teeth

And get yourself a night guard. If you don’t mind going to see your dentist you can get one that’ll fit you well and they cost less then extracting broken teeth. I have broken so many and I wish I had known. I have several root canals now

If they extract the tooth and you can afford an implant which is better that’s at least $5000 each. Save those teeth. Good night guards they sell at the group drugstore aren’t as comfortable as a fitted one from the dentist but they’ll do the job

[BigDemVoter]

13. Already got fitted!

And I pick it up Friday at 4:45!

[mahina]

16. Awesome.

That is wonderful. Your future living teeth will thank you.

Now for all those ice chewers!
Things I wish I’d known.

[Adsos Letter]

24. I split an incisor chewing ice.

That ended my ice chewing days.

[mahina]

29. Ouch

That sounds terrible.

[Adsos Letter]

30. It hurt.

[Iliyah]

9. NBA protesting . . .

facebook statement from militia group verifies that the Kenosha Police knew they would be there with guns.

shithole sending secret police that the governor have not accepted. A militia kills two and wounded one and the police allowed to him walk away.

Kenosha Police officer shoots Blake in the back 7 times in front of his children.

It's already back firing on shithole and his cronies.

[doc03]

10. I was talking to a couple die hard Trump people

today. They actually agreed the cop was is in the wrong in the shooting. They even backed people's right to protest but it is the few that do the burning and looting that loses them. I think the more we see of that the better the chance Trump will be re-elected. Every time things start cooling off some like clock work the damn cops get it going again. I am starting to think it is done on purpose, they know no matter what they do they get away with it. It's like they believe like Trump they are above the law.

[mahina]

17. It seems clear to me.

[leftofthestorm]

25. I thought that as well

In this environment you would think a cop would have enough sense to not shoot a black man in the back seven freaking times. It feels intentional. And with the 17 year old kid that went nuts I observed cops and swat or whatever they are got there about 30 seconds after the shooting started. I am a little paranoid with this one.

[doc03]

26. It conveniently happens in Wisconsin the swing state with the

closest polls. What is next PA and Michigan?

[soothsayer]

11. White supremacist kid killing people. Police shooting unarmed Black in the back in front of kids.

Not a good narrative for drumpf. This is what HIS America looks like.

[CentralMass]

12. +1

[roamer65]

14. Just watch.

When one of those white supremacist freaks gets “dropped”, then it will be some big national tragedy...boohoo and all that shit.

[doc03]

19. He is actually running on cleaning up the

mess He created and it works for with his cult. I don't see him losing any die hards and if he can scare enough whites in the suburbs he could win.

[doc03]

27. I disagree it is the best thing that could happen for his base. nt

[soothsayer]

28. True, he'll probably cheer it on

[RhodeIslandOne]

15. Trump only won Kenosha by 300 votes

I cannot imagine this helps him at all.

[BamaRefugee]

18. Many many more shootings and killings by right wing nut jobs. Handwringing by us.

We always go out thinking that everyone is a fairly decent person deep inside, we're learning a hard lesson the hard way.

[myohmy2]

20. don't do that...

" I am so worried about this goddamned election that I'm not only sleeping badly, but I'm grinding my teeth at night! "

...you'll wreck your teeth...no need to go unnecessarily to the dentist with Coronies out there...

...you have good reason to be worried...

...the way I see it, people vote for two reason, money or fear...trump's going to play the, "..looters gonna get ya.." card to the hilt while he hammers away, "..I built this great economy before COVID and only I can do it again.." and by the way, "..no one could have done the Coronie crisis better than me, no one.."...

...meanwhile, back at the ranch, I see shades of 2016...trump's evil, aren't you glad and lucky we're not trump...and remember, take that high road and for god's sake keep your powder dry...as trump tweet's and stages his distractive disruptive shit real-time during our convention...

...people don't care that much about character; they'll vote for Hitler if he'll save them or make them prosperous...as I've said before, the only way to beat trump is to out-trump, trump...trump's been underestimated and practically untouched since 2016...

...and don't forget, "radial Left", "Joe's a Communist" (and Bernie wasn't good enough)...I'll give it at best a 50/50 chance and that makes me worried too...we'll see how the debates go, how aggressive we are, there's mail-in and early voting, but more than likely any decisive shift will occur a few days before the election...half the country hates the other half...no one I know wants to sing kumbaya...

...but then again, I could be wrong...

[Turbineguy]

21. Hopefully this boy's parents are extremely

heavily insured.

Hopefully Kenosha, if the police were cooperating with the Kenosha Militia, has lots of liability insurance.

[LanternWaste]

22. It seems the RW narrative is already collapsing in on itself.

At best, all they'll be able to pull out of this one is "damn... what a troubled, mentally unstable white kid he is. I hope he gets treatment"

If they advertise this any louder or any further, it will illustrate the cancers specific and prolific to the right wing.

In effect, the right wing is efficient at instructing their base who to hate, why to hate, and how to hate them. They can't do that if the poster boy for their hatred is a product of their own instruction.

[I_UndergroundPanther]

23. I have been having a hard time too

Everything going on and around this election is triggering.

I agree Biden needs to nip this bullshit in the bud.

I am scared of the election and after the election until Biden is sworn in.
When he is sworn in I'll be so happy and the ceasing of all the tension built up I might explode.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

31. It's a battle of narratives

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=13976241

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100213976979