Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search
19 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
AOC: NBA players are courageously on strike (withholding labor), NOT boycotting (Original Post) melman Aug 2020 OP
what words are used by the players? nt msongs Aug 2020 #1
I've seen both terms used jorgevlorgan Aug 2020 #3
See post #6 for the definition of "boycott". George II Aug 2020 #7
Fair enough. jorgevlorgan Aug 2020 #18
You're right, they're not interchangeable but either is may be appropriate in this situation... George II Aug 2020 #19
The deep fear the plutes have of calling it a strike is actually quite funny greenjar_01 Aug 2020 #2
She should not use the word "labor." demosincebirth Aug 2020 #4
What would be an acceptable alternative? n/t theaocp Aug 2020 #13
Sports is entertainment, surely not labor. demosincebirth Aug 2020 #15
I guess I see them as the labor theaocp Aug 2020 #17
Doesn't a Strike imply their issue is with their Bosses and what they get Paid ? JI7 Aug 2020 #5
Yes, employees strike AGAINST their employer or organization for which they "work".... George II Aug 2020 #9
I'll leave it up to the players, who have taken this bold stance, to describe what they did.... George II Aug 2020 #6
Well here is the definition of the word strike Trumpocalypse Aug 2020 #8
From what some people said they might purposely be avoiding the use of the term "strike" JI7 Aug 2020 #10
Seems like just about everyone is calling it a boycott.... George II Aug 2020 #11
And there was a time when everyone said Trumpocalypse Aug 2020 #12
the panel on Morning Joe called it (approvingly) a strike, as did many other media outlets Celerity Aug 2020 #14
She is correct malaise Aug 2020 #16

jorgevlorgan

(8,325 posts)
3. I've seen both terms used
Thu Aug 27, 2020, 01:19 AM
Aug 2020

But they are withholding their labor(striking), not withholding their money to purchase a good or service (boycotting).

George II

(67,782 posts)
19. You're right, they're not interchangeable but either is may be appropriate in this situation...
Thu Aug 27, 2020, 01:57 PM
Aug 2020

Certainly not worth making an issue of it with the Washington Post, especially with all the truly important things going on in America these days.

 

greenjar_01

(6,477 posts)
2. The deep fear the plutes have of calling it a strike is actually quite funny
Thu Aug 27, 2020, 12:54 AM
Aug 2020

They're out here making fools of themselves.

JI7

(89,262 posts)
5. Doesn't a Strike imply their issue is with their Bosses and what they get Paid ?
Thu Aug 27, 2020, 02:58 AM
Aug 2020

But this is not the case. It's not their own jobs they are taking issue with here.

They are using their power as players (and ones that can't be easily replaced) to deny their "service" as a way protest the racism with laws enforcement.



George II

(67,782 posts)
9. Yes, employees strike AGAINST their employer or organization for which they "work"....
Thu Aug 27, 2020, 07:28 AM
Aug 2020

In this case it's a protest against an incident that happened just south of their city.

George II

(67,782 posts)
6. I'll leave it up to the players, who have taken this bold stance, to describe what they did....
Thu Aug 27, 2020, 07:15 AM
Aug 2020

....and are doing.

Here's the definition of "boycott":

https://www.google.com/search?q=boycott+definition&rlz=1C1CHBF_enUS725US725&oq=boycott+definition&aqs=chrome..69i57.3674j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

"withdraw from commercial or social relations (a country, organization, or person) as a punishment or protest."

Seems like it's a boycot, precisely as the Washington Post said:

"Milwaukee Bucks become first NBA team to boycott playoff game to protest social injustice"

By the way, CNN also described it as a boycott:



 

Trumpocalypse

(6,143 posts)
8. Well here is the definition of the word strike
Thu Aug 27, 2020, 07:25 AM
Aug 2020
a refusal to work organized by a body of employees as a form of protest,

JI7

(89,262 posts)
10. From what some people said they might purposely be avoiding the use of the term "strike"
Thu Aug 27, 2020, 07:32 AM
Aug 2020

because of their contracts .

George II

(67,782 posts)
11. Seems like just about everyone is calling it a boycott....
Thu Aug 27, 2020, 07:34 AM
Aug 2020


Strikes are called to protest working conditions and/or pay. The Milwaukee Bucks, in their boycott, were protesting neither.

Boycott: NBA, WNBA, MLB, MLS Teams Call Off Games As Players Protest Racial Injustice

https://www.wbur.org/news/2020/08/26/boycott-nba-playoff-protest-police-brutality

Blazers, Timbers join pro sports boycott to protest shooting of Jacob Blake

The Milwaukee Bucks did not take the floor for their NBA playoff game Wednesday, setting off a wide-ranging boycott of professional sports after police shot and paralyzed a Wisconsin man.


https://www.opb.org/article/2020/08/26/bc-bkn-racial-injustice-nba/

Milwaukee Bucks players make statement on boycott

There had been only one players’ boycott of an NBA game in the league’s history: In 1961, Bill Russell and some (not all) Boston Celtics sat out a game to protest racial injustice.

Nearly 50 years later, we are still having the same discussion as a nation. And NBA teams are still making a statement. The Milwaukee Bucks voted to boycott their playoff game Wednesday against the Orlando Magic. Soon there was a domino effect and all of Wednesday’s NBA slate had been postponed.


https://nba.nbcsports.com/2020/08/26/milwaukee-bucks-players-make-statement-on-boycott/

Celerity

(43,485 posts)
14. the panel on Morning Joe called it (approvingly) a strike, as did many other media outlets
Thu Aug 27, 2020, 08:24 AM
Aug 2020




I think if AOC tweeted the sky is blue, water is wet, the sun rises in the east and sets in the west, that there would still be replies that would try and paint her as wrong.

#ohsopredictable




Latest Discussions»General Discussion»AOC: NBA players are cour...