MAGAshooter called a friend to say he 'killed somebody,' police say, and then shot two others

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At those demonstrations, the complaint states Rittenhouse clashed with people gathered near the car dealership for reasons not specified. Rosenbaum was unarmed and threw an object that appeared to be a plastic bag at him and missed, according to the complaint.
Rosenbaum and the suspect moved across the parking lot and appeared to be in close proximity when loud bangs suddenly rang out and Rosenbaum fell to the ground, according to the complaint.
As Rosenbaum lay on the ground, the suspect made a call on his cellphone and said, "I just killed somebody" as he ran away, the complaint alleges. His friend received a call from him at 11:46 p.m. saying that he shot someone, an investigator says in the complaint.


https://www.cnn.com/2020/08/28/us/kyle-rittenhouse-kenosha-shooting/index.html

[hlthe2b]

1. Premeditated.. Throw away the damned key. Even the racist attitudes of Sheriff/community aren't

going to save him.

[abqtommy]

16. +++

[rockfordfile]

30. the pos should've never been there to begin with

[Guy Whitey Corngood]

2. Did the cops take him to McDonald's too, before booking him? nt

[PTWB]

3. Why would they do that?

[Thomas Hurt]

4. He was a white boy and might have looked a little peckish

[edhopper]

5. Seems to be par for the course

when arresting white supremacist murderers.

[PTWB]

10. Feeding suspects is routine.

They HAVE to do that.

Dylan Roof was not taken to Burger King. The police brought him food when he complained about being hungry (check Snopes).

Many folks seem to be unaware that suspects in custody have many protections while being interrogated. The police must show that the suspect was not denied food, water and bathroom breaks. It is incredibly common for suspects being interrogated after hours to be given fast food, while on camera, to show that their subsequent confessions were not coerced and they can’t claim their rights were violated. Imagine the real outrage if the police had bungled Roof’s interrogation and he was freed at trial?

Which is worse? Violating a suspects rights and having the case jeopardized or, worse, dismissed? Or bringing a suspect fast food and securing that confession as admissible?

The police do a LOT of bad. Treating prisoners humanely - even the most heinous white supremacists - is not bad. It is the law and if we want those convictions we need the police to follow those laws.

[UpInArms]

15. I guess shooting people makes one hungry

Nikolas Cruz Admits to Two Fast-Food Stops After Florida School Shooting

After shooting more than 100 rounds of ammunition and claiming 17 lives at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland, Florida, confessed school shooter Nikolas Cruz ditched his weaponry and headed to Subway then McDonald's.

According to arrest reports, the 19-year-old fled the scene by getting rid of his AR-15 semiautomatic rifle and blending in with a crowd of terrified evacuating students. He then casually walked to a Walmart, where he bought a drink at the Subway inside.

Then he walked to McDonald's, Broward County Sheriff Scott Israel said at a news conference Thursday. About 40 minutes after leaving the McDonald's, Cruz was confronted by a police officer who recognized his description and taken into custody.

[edhopper]

18. The problem is

they routinely treat white supremacist murderers like that. Innocent black people, not so much.

[Alacritous Crier]

22. They have a bad habit...

of not being so humane with black people. They're lucky to get arrested many times.

Killing comes too easy for police when dealing with people of color.

[Aristus]

6. That putrid dickdrip who murdered those people in Georgia got a trip to Burger King

for his trouble. Cops took him to Burger King. I'm surprised they didn't high-five him and say "Nice shootin' there, son!"

[PTWB]

9. Who?

Are you talking about Dylan Roof in South Carolina? There was some misinformation that police took him to Burger King (they didn’t, check Snopes). Is there another case where the police in Georgia took a killer to the Burger King?


Many folks seem to be unaware that suspects in custody have many protections while being interrogated. The police must show that the suspect was not denied food, water and bathroom breaks. It is incredibly common for suspects being interrogated after hours to be given fast food and drink, while on camera, to show that their subsequent confessions were not coerced.

Which is worse? Violating a suspects rights and having the case jeopardized or, worse, dismissed? Or bringing a suspect fast food and securing that confession as admissible?

The police do a LOT of bad. Treating prisoners humanely - even the most heinous white supremacists - is not bad. It is the law and if we want those convictions we need the police to follow those laws.

[Aristus]

11. Making him wait six hours or so until the prison kitchen opens would not have been prisoner abuse.

Neither would waking up the kitchen guy to make the little shitstain a sandwich.

And I think it should go without saying that cops only do this with white suspects. The black suspects get shot to death. (Which I think should count as prisoner abuse. But then, I'm not a cop...)

[PTWB]

12. Hm

If Roof had said he was hungry and hadn’t eaten, and they made him wait 6 hours (or more, depending on how long the interrogation took) then his attorneys would have a strong argument that his rights were violated and any confession could easily be ruled inadmissible.

I certainly agree that withholding food for a few hours pales in comparison to the abuse often suffered at the hands of police - but it’s still a rights violation and needless.

Again - would you rather have the police wait 6 hours to feed someone like Roof and risk the entire case? Or bring him a meal when he says he’s hungry?

[Aristus]

14. They would have thrown out the charges over that?

Not feeding him for three days, I can see. But a few hours?

I'm a liberal. I'm not one of those "Criminals have too damn many rights these days!" assholes. But coddling the little fucksmear right after he murdered nine people is a little overboard.

[scrabblequeen40]

19. Waiting a few hours to eat after you killed a churchful of people is NOT abuse

Given that he was on the lam when captured, and given the seriousness of his crimes, a mass murderer's word that he was hungry can't be taken at face value. This kid was a cold-blooded killer.

[malaise]

24. Well

They took Dylann Roof to Burger King after he killed nine African-Americans in their church

[PTWB]

25. No, they didn't.

They brought a Burger King meal to him while he was being interrogated when he complained of hunger. Failing to offer food, drink and bathroom breaks to suspects being interrogated can put their confession at risk of being suppressed.

Securing Roof’s conviction was of the utmost importance and his interrogation was handled by the book.


https://www.snopes.com/news/2015/06/22/dylann-roof-burger-king/

[dware]

26. Thank you for setting the record straight.

This is quite common for the police to feed a suspect during an interrogation.

[dware]

27. You really should delete or edit this false info.

As has been pointed out, the cops did not take Dylan Roof to Burger King, that's false information.

[cwydro]

28. Thank you.

So tired of seeing false stuff posted here. The same thing is happening with the 17 year old killer.

Posting fake shit makes us look bad, so I gotta wonder about the motives of those who do it.

[dware]

29. As I've said before,

this just isn't the DU I remember when I first joined in 2001.

That post should have been corrected by the poster as soon as it was pointed out to be false, but, as you say, you've got to wonder at the motivation of those that do it and then don't correct it when called on it.

[magicarpet]

7. This kid was fantasizing for years that he could finally shoot someone with his long gun.

It was his passage into macho manhood.

He defined himself as the man, the gun, and the fearless tough guy who would save and protect the world from the terrorist, Antifa, the darkies, the immigrant and other assorted scum. He wanted to go hunt them down and fill them full of bullets.

He got his chance and that is exactly what he did.

[Thomas Hurt]

8. My Trumper extended family on FB has already shared photoshopped pictures...

of one of the victim's with a handgun. Unsurprisingly, I see not one story of any of the victims being armed.

[sl8]

13. Have you watched the videos? It sure looks like Grosskreutz has a handgun in his hand.

Also, it's mentioned in the complaint::

[...]
After shooting Huber, the defendant moves to a seated position and points his gun at a third male, later identified as Gaige Grosskreutz, who had begun to approach the defendant. When the defendant shot Huber, Grosskreutz freezes and ducks and takes a step back. Grosskreutz puts his hands in the air. Grosskreutz then moves towards the defendant who aims his gun at Grosskreutz and shoots him, firing 1 shot. Grosskreutz was shot in the right arm. Grosskreutz appears to be holding a handgun in his right hand when he was shot. Grosskreutz then runs southbound away from the defendant screaming for a medic and the defendant gets up and starts walking northbound. The defendant turns around facing southbound while walking backwards northbound with his firearm in a ready position, pointed towards the people in the roadway.

[...]

[Thomas Hurt]

17. Not saying it is not possible, just don't trust what is coming up.

Of course the fascist are using it to say self defense, but it might be Grosskreutz was trying to protect himself and others.

In the end, it it only going to matter what happens in the trial.

[sl8]

20. I'm not faulting him in the least.

But there's not much point in denying he had a gun.

[dansolo]

21. Wouldn't that make him a "good guy with a gun"?

We keep hearing that solution to stopping mass shooting are more "good guys with a gun". I guess Grosskreutz should have just shot him immediately.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

23. *MAGASHOOTER*

Love it!