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JI7

(89,279 posts)
Sun Aug 30, 2020, 07:11 AM Aug 2020

Idiot Robert Kennedy Joins Right Wing Protests against Coronavirus Restrictions in Germany

Not everyone there was a Right Winger but the Anti Vaccine types and other idiots we have among left leaning people in the US were also there. These are the anti gmo , 5g conspiracy and other types.

RFK Jr is among crowds of people with none of them wearing masks.


<The protests have also gained support from Robert F Kennedy Jr. The anti-vaccination campaigner, also the son of assassinated US Democratic presidential hopeful Robert F Kennedy and nephew of assassinated US President John F Kennedy, is at the demonstrations in Berlin.

Mr Kennedy told the crowd at the Victory Column that his uncle had famously addressed Berlin in 1963 to counter totalitarianism and that "today Berlin is again the front against totalitarianism", warning of a surveillance state and the power of 5G phone networks.

Photos shared online also showed flags and slogans linked to the conspiracy theory QAnon. The wide-ranging, unfounded conspiracy theory says that US President Donald Trump is waging a secret war against elite Satan-worshipping paedophiles in government, business and the media, among other claims.

Participants also included families and children. Some people have said they just want the right to protest.

One demonstrator, Stefan, a 43-year-old Berlin resident, told Agence France-Presse: "I'm not an extreme right-wing sympathiser, I'm here to defend our fundamental freedoms.">



https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-53959552

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Idiot Robert Kennedy Joins Right Wing Protests against Coronavirus Restrictions in Germany (Original Post) JI7 Aug 2020 OP
Man what happened to him? He used to be a cool environmentalist jorgevlorgan Aug 2020 #1
ikr live love laugh Aug 2020 #3
Make Science Great Again oasis Aug 2020 #2
Bobby, Bobby, what's the matter? DFW Aug 2020 #4
DFW, I always got the impression that friend/cohost Michael Papantonio WAS NOT an anti-vaxxer hlthe2b Aug 2020 #7
I actually found Pap to be to Bobby's left, if anything DFW Aug 2020 #8
Wow, hard to believe he's RFK's son. Buckeye_Democrat Aug 2020 #5
Bobby, Sr. and my dad were friends DFW Aug 2020 #9
Fascinating! Thanks for sharing those stories! Buckeye_Democrat Aug 2020 #10
Bobby Sr. was a fascinating character DFW Aug 2020 #11
Introverts can be great leaders! Buckeye_Democrat Aug 2020 #12
His hand WAS huge! DFW Aug 2020 #13
Great stories DFW. I want more. panader0 Aug 2020 #15
I never know what really is a story and what isn't. DFW Aug 2020 #17
I remember being evacuated from the base where my dad was stationed panader0 Aug 2020 #22
It sounds like you could fill a book or two of your own tales! n/t DFW Aug 2020 #23
Wow! Buckeye_Democrat Aug 2020 #16
That's really sad. Hard to believe RFK's son has turned into such an idiot. Vinca Aug 2020 #6
It's not that Bobby is an idiot. He's just horribly misled DFW Aug 2020 #18
He's been talking dangerous nonsense about vaccines for at least 15 years muriel_volestrangler Aug 2020 #21
To be dismayed at the outcome of putting faith in Trump for anything DFW Aug 2020 #24
A Qanon supporter I know thinks Bobby Kennedy, Jr is an authority on vaccines. Klaralven Aug 2020 #14
Jeez. What the hell happened to him? GoCubsGo Aug 2020 #19
What a shame. Music Man Aug 2020 #20

DFW

(54,448 posts)
4. Bobby, Bobby, what's the matter?
Sun Aug 30, 2020, 07:30 AM
Aug 2020

We were classmates many decades ago, hooked up again for a while when he was doing Ring of Fire on Air America. I haven't spoken to him in over ten years now, and no longer have any contact with him. He would get an earful from me if I did! I wonder what sent him off on this windmill hunt?

hlthe2b

(102,421 posts)
7. DFW, I always got the impression that friend/cohost Michael Papantonio WAS NOT an anti-vaxxer
Sun Aug 30, 2020, 09:06 AM
Aug 2020

AT all. Do you think he just chose not to argue with RFK JR? Papantonio seemed like a straight shooter, so I had a very hard time figuring how he would NOT have tried to get through to Kennedy.

Any thoughts on that?

DFW

(54,448 posts)
8. I actually found Pap to be to Bobby's left, if anything
Sun Aug 30, 2020, 09:14 AM
Aug 2020

However, he must have had enough lawyer in him to know when to co-lead the charge, and when to back off. I think Pap had no interest whatsoever in getting involved with Bobby in disputes where rational arguments would hold no sway.

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,858 posts)
5. Wow, hard to believe he's RFK's son.
Sun Aug 30, 2020, 07:49 AM
Aug 2020

The favorite Kennedy of my (much older) family back in those days. (He was assassinated before I came along.)

DFW

(54,448 posts)
9. Bobby, Sr. and my dad were friends
Sun Aug 30, 2020, 09:31 AM
Aug 2020

I mean, like first name basis, unusual for Senators and the press in those days. I sometimes accompanied my Dad to his Senate office. Bobby had THE most beautiful female staff members, and every one of them was Mensa material. Rumors flew, of course, about affairs. I never knew if any of them were true. I used to flirt with one of the receptionists in his Senate office (her name was Brandi) whom I had a severe crush on. I was devastated when she told me she was getting married. I begged her to reconsider and wait for me to finish puberty, but her mind was made up. Lucky guy!

When Bobby was shot, all that ended, of course, and with it, an era of optimism that things could yet change for the better. My parents were devastated, as you can imagine. As 16 year olds in high school, you can imagine that our class was just walking around in a daze, wondering WTF was going on with us.

In those days, you could just walk into the Capitol or a Senate Office Building and stroll into any Senator's office. Hard to believe when you consider today's security controls everywhere you go. Even the White House was a lot looser, although you couldn't just stroll in unannounced except after waiting in line for one of the organized tours. My first meeting with a sitting president (LBJ) at the White House didn't come until 1965, but compared to now, it was still pretty loose. "Hi, my name is DFW. I must be on some list you have." The guard at the entrance said, "Yeah, you are. Come on in." It was THAT easy.

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,858 posts)
10. Fascinating! Thanks for sharing those stories!
Sun Aug 30, 2020, 09:38 AM
Aug 2020

My older siblings acted like they would have taken that bullet if it could've spared RFK. They never met him, but they adored his speeches and public mannerisms around that time.

DFW

(54,448 posts)
11. Bobby Sr. was a fascinating character
Sun Aug 30, 2020, 09:43 AM
Aug 2020

A smiling, forceful figure in public, but a shy, reserved man in private. I was astounded when I experienced the difference first hand. But he was always very nice to me, at least, and I know my dad and he were close. I still have a photo of him, dedicated to my dad in his own modest hand, saying, simply, "with high regard."

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,858 posts)
12. Introverts can be great leaders!
Sun Aug 30, 2020, 09:49 AM
Aug 2020

My siblings always thought he genuinely cared, but it's hard to know sometimes. I had the same impression after watching videos of him.

I guess my older brother shook hands with LBJ at some event, but that's it. He supposedly made a beeline for my brother and shook his hand with a big smile and praise, while my parents proudly grinned in silence about it. Lol. My brother was just a little kid, but he said LBJ's hand seemed huge.

DFW

(54,448 posts)
13. His hand WAS huge!
Sun Aug 30, 2020, 09:55 AM
Aug 2020

At least it seemed so to me. I never chatted with him to any extent. I spent most of my time talking to his wife, Lady Bird, who was perfectly charming (and also really smart, but knew in whose shadow she was standing).

I sent you a PM about who my political mentor was.

DFW

(54,448 posts)
17. I never know what really is a story and what isn't.
Sun Aug 30, 2020, 10:12 AM
Aug 2020

I grew up in that world. What was routine to me, I guess, seems exotic if you weren't there.

panader0

(25,816 posts)
22. I remember being evacuated from the base where my dad was stationed
Sun Aug 30, 2020, 10:30 AM
Aug 2020

in Sidi Slimane, Morocco when I was seven (1956). An atomic bomb had been lost over the Mediterranean
and I guess there was a mad rush by several nations to recover it. My mom picked me up from my
second grade class and we went away for a while, perhaps to Rabat, I don't remember. The Air Force life of my
dad meant a lot of traveling. Most of it was wasted on me as a child, except for the indelible memories of
how life was in other countries and cultures. I was able to visit most of Europe then, and later, when he
was stationed at Hickam AFB on Oahu, I visited most of SE Asia. Central America was on my own.
You have led an interesting life, and I want more stories.

DFW

(54,448 posts)
18. It's not that Bobby is an idiot. He's just horribly misled
Sun Aug 30, 2020, 10:13 AM
Aug 2020

And I can't, for the life of me, figure out how it happened.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,390 posts)
21. He's been talking dangerous nonsense about vaccines for at least 15 years
Sun Aug 30, 2020, 10:29 AM
Aug 2020

It's not that he is misled; he has been misleading people for many years. I mean, if you want to see how much this is his fault, look at this:

Donald Trump appears to have abandoned plans to investigate the spurious link between childhood immunisations and autism, a move welcomed by experts but condemned by Robert F Kennedy Jr, a vaccine sceptic.

The son of former US attorney general Bobby Kennedy met Trump in New York during the presidential transition in January last year and announced that he had been asked to chair a commission to review vaccine safety.

Scientists warned that it would give credence to debunked theories, while a Trump spokeswoman denied any decision had been made.

Then, a year ago this week, Kennedy told reporters he had met “many times” with members of Trump’s transition team, “trading documents about what the commission would look like”. But little has been heard of the plan since then.
...
Kennedy, 64, has had no contact with the White House for at least six months and made no secret of his dismay. “I’ve seen a tremendous deflation among a community of parents and children’s health advocates across the country who believed the promises that President Trump made to the campaign, who put tremendous faith in him and now are feeling enormous betrayal and disappointment.”

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/feb/21/trump-vaccination-safety-commission-robert-kennedy-autism

He was proud to say he'd work with Trump. The Trump regime acted more rationally than he did.

DFW

(54,448 posts)
24. To be dismayed at the outcome of putting faith in Trump for anything
Sun Aug 30, 2020, 10:56 AM
Aug 2020

That shows major delusion all by itself!

Music Man

(1,184 posts)
20. What a shame.
Sun Aug 30, 2020, 10:20 AM
Aug 2020

I used to love hearing his lectures in the 2000's. I really saw him as carrying on his dad's legacy. I had hoped for him to wind up in the Obama administration.

Then I heard about his anti-vaxxer nonsense. And now this really takes the cake. So far gone. I hope he has an epiphany and comes to his senses.

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