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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsTake back the narrative - last night's killer came from the Con's Caravans
The Con wants the genocide of non-whites.
Cambodia, Rwanda and now Trump's America.
doc03
(35,432 posts)white Trump supporter. I fail to see. how that takes back the nerrative. It can only help Trump. The only thing they are accomplishing in Portland is helping Trump get 4 more years. Now he will use this as an excuse to send in his federal brown shirts.
live love laugh
(13,189 posts)further investigation is warranted.
gab13by13
(21,481 posts)I have been wondering how much of the rioting is not caused by the left but caused by Trump supporters. If we keep proving that it is Trump supporters who are causing the trouble why isn't that taking back the narrative?
Trump supporters could be the ones who are setting Reichstag fires and blaming peaceful protesters.
malaise
(269,260 posts)These are the Con's thugs
gab13by13
(21,481 posts)..and no one blinks an eye? The kid should have been arrested before he murdered 2 people.
Vinca
(50,323 posts)spraying the crowd. No matter who did it, this makes one point crystal clear: TOO MANY GUNS IN THIS COUNTRY.
Klaralven
(7,510 posts)Kid Berwyn
(15,040 posts)https://theintercept.com/2020/07/15/george-floyd-protests-police-far-right-antifa/
crickets
(25,989 posts)myohmy2
(3,205 posts)...this around trump's fascist neck...
...fight like you want to win...
StocktonNative
(120 posts)are the two popular racist hate groups here in Portland
.then you have a series of press guys and Andy Ngo and Q conspiracists who are their publicist. There is no doubt these hate member are starting fire, starting riots and even throwing pipe bombs to stir up shit here.
Today what started as a Trump Truck Rally became a ride to the city to pepper spray and paint ball citizens in the downtown area. One person dead.
DownriverDem
(6,233 posts)please pass around: Starting tomorrow employers and employees will not have to pay FICA taxes (Social Security). So those on it will get kicked off and those ready to get it (those in their 50s) are shit out of luck?
radical noodle
(8,016 posts)At least not yet and not if we get out and vote.
SharonClark
(10,014 posts)Replying off topic is a waste of your time unless you are trying to hijack a thread.
Danascot
(4,699 posts)so the same wording is being used by a number of major news outlets including the NYT.
PORTLAND, Ore. (AP) One person was shot and killed late Saturday in Portland, Oregon, as a large caravan of President Donald Trump supporters and Black Lives Matter protesters clashed in the streets, police said.
It wasnt clear if the shooting was linked to fights that broke out as a caravan of about 600 vehicles was confronted by counter-demonstrators in the citys downtown.
Police said the caravan had left the area around 8:30 p.m., and officers heard gunshots at about 8:46 p.m., according to a statement. Officers arrived at the shooting scene within a minute, police said, but the man who was shot did not survive.
https://apnews.com/6706c916dc6a156b9847baca437a91de
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/30/us/portland-trump-rally-shooting.html
The caravans are also being called Trump trains:
https://www.themonitor.com/2020/08/24/photo-gallery-trump-train-rolls-mcallen/
safeinOhio
(32,746 posts)The caravans are on the way.
RelativelyJones
(898 posts)mfcorey1
(11,001 posts)mfcorey1
(11,001 posts)bigtree
(86,015 posts)many republicans are in favor of more guns because they want right wing citizens to start a civil war.
Sunsky
(1,737 posts)Our side need to be more vocal. We have to beat Trump at the framing the narrative.
Joe or Kamala need to have a daily press conference. Show the country what it will be like under a president Biden in these tumultuous times and remind the country that Trump is the current president. I know he and Kamala have a sit-down planned for Tuesday but that's many days behind Trump, who receives daily press. These are the last days and team Trump has ramped up their disinformation campaign, we cannot sit back like it's June/July.
marble falls
(57,427 posts)of us who use VA.
IronLionZion
(45,615 posts)considering how he had his goons beat up the Navy vet in Portland and broke his arms, and generally failing his promises to help veterans with various issues.
Chasdev
(33 posts)Then those caravans may visit democratic controlled towns and cities.
I am a long time collector of WWII items, including trophy weapons brought back to the US by victorious American soldiers.
My large collection of same has now been liquidated but I still view the collector forums and I can tell you that the most extreme maga crowd is posting very dangerous opinions on "allowing" democrats to live in America after Drumph is declared dictator for life.
This is why I retained a few firearms, I WILL NOT let them wipe out my family.
I have no intentions of attending any group gathering, political or not, but if the caravans start rolling and come down MY street trying to cleanse America of Democrats, they will be met with resistance.
I ask everyone if they would rather possess an evil machine and not need it or need it and not posses it.
tulipsandroses
(5,131 posts)When in fact, the ones committing murder are Trump supporting white supremacist terrorists.
I didn't watch the RNC shit show, but I saw replay of a tidbit of Pence's speech when he was talking about the protests and " law and order" - I noticed he made a point to say Americans will not strike down Americans in the street. Creating a false narrative, as you said - that protesters are striking down people. Which is a damn lie. The people by and large that are striking down people are white supremacist terrorists. But they want to make it seem as if the protesters are are out to kill and maim people. It feeds the narrative of those scary black, brown and leftist Antifa folks are out to get " good Americans".
Dear baby Beyonce I can't wait for all this to be over.
malaise
(269,260 posts)At what point is M$Greedia going to call this what it is - white supremacist terror against peaceful protesters
IronLionZion
(45,615 posts)AllaN01Bear
(18,680 posts)a crime . how he was transported accross state lines. another crime . and the police assisted him to go home ?
malaise
(269,260 posts)these MAGAts are shooting paint ball guns openly at protesters. Donald Trump is a fucking terrorist.
Lock h im up!
doc03
(35,432 posts)through. Like it or not the Trump supports also have a the right to protest. They did exactly what Trump was wanting, he needs an excuse to send in the goons, now he has it. What is going on in Portland should have been dealt with weeks ago. There is a difference in a peaceable protest and occupying a city for 90 days.