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"We were told, noncompliance is a death sentence. I need an explanation." (Original Post) Nevilledog Aug 2020 OP
I'm gonna go out on a limb and say a POC who does this is at minimum mr_lebowski Aug 2020 #1
NOBODY with any training holds a gun like that or gets that close. davsand Aug 2020 #2
On The Horizontal Gun Hold ProfessorGAC Aug 2020 #3
Post removed Post removed Aug 2020 #4
We do not want the "cop" to shoot him. dawg Aug 2020 #5
Post removed Post removed Aug 2020 #9
hmmm, looks like some white folks are tired of the cops' bullshit too. Thomas Hurt Aug 2020 #6
If that guy had not looked just like the cop, he would've been shot, or at the very least tased sop Aug 2020 #7
+1 2naSalit Aug 2020 #11
Well it certainly doesn't help treestar Aug 2020 #8
That's "compliance?" treestar Aug 2020 #10
If you have a pulse oximeter, read it before and after you watch (and listen to) this video. Towlie Aug 2020 #12
 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
1. I'm gonna go out on a limb and say a POC who does this is at minimum
Sun Aug 30, 2020, 02:17 PM
Aug 2020

getting the shit kicked out of him/her by the cops, and would be lucky to only be arrested as opposed to killed.

When the guy turned away out of the cops view into his truck ... had he been a large black man, he'd have been shot.

Dude whining about private property when it's obviously a gas station parking lot is freaking hilarious. Okay, yeah, technically someone owns the gas station beside the government, but that doesn't mean the cops have no jurisdiction there or some shit.

Wonder what he did for which the cop pulled a gun on him?

davsand

(13,421 posts)
2. NOBODY with any training holds a gun like that or gets that close.
Sun Aug 30, 2020, 02:23 PM
Aug 2020

I have zero ideas what we are seeing in that video, but it sure as heck can't be a trained police officer or even anybody that has been taught basic weapon handling. I'm not a highly trained gun person, but I was taught a LONG time ago that a gun is not held in a horizontal position in real life. It might be held that way in TV shows or movies, but it sure isn't held that way by anybody that has ever shot a gun. Additionally, if you are in a confrontation, and you are armed and draw down on somebody, you do NOT get close to them. If they choose to move on you, you will most likely be disarmed before you have a chance to even react.

This is not mystical gun stuff here. Normal folks know this.

SMH.


Laura

ProfessorGAC

(65,287 posts)
3. On The Horizontal Gun Hold
Sun Aug 30, 2020, 02:36 PM
Aug 2020

Mythbusters did a segment on different holds and draws of a hand gun.
That horizontal hold was only superior to the shooting randomly around a door frame.
It was the second least accurate way to hold a handgun.
So, I agree that a trained LEO would not hold a gun that way.

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dawg

(10,624 posts)
5. We do not want the "cop" to shoot him.
Sun Aug 30, 2020, 02:43 PM
Aug 2020

It's just that we've seen lots of people shot by cops for far less. (Only they tend to be .... browner.)

Personally, I don't want the "cop" to even draw his weapon in a situation like that. He can read and call in the tag number. The fine and/or court date will come in the mail. Job done.

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sop

(10,274 posts)
7. If that guy had not looked just like the cop, he would've been shot, or at the very least tased
Sun Aug 30, 2020, 03:09 PM
Aug 2020

several times, and four other backup cops would have quickly responded to the situation and joined in on the beat down.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
8. Well it certainly doesn't help
Sun Aug 30, 2020, 03:11 PM
Aug 2020

And is one sure way to increase the chance of getting killed.

A couple of cases where even a complying person gets shot does not make that not true.

And they may at least be alive to complain about it.

Towlie

(5,328 posts)
12. If you have a pulse oximeter, read it before and after you watch (and listen to) this video.
Sun Aug 30, 2020, 03:24 PM
Aug 2020

I guarantee it will speed up your pulse.

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