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brooklynite

(94,694 posts)
Thu Sep 24, 2020, 03:02 PM Sep 2020

Despite Trump's actions against immigrants, these Latino voters want four more years

Washington Post

Gabriela Saucedo was 22 years old when she arrived in the United States from Mexico in pursuit of the American Dream. Through years of hard work and perseverance, she managed to build a successful life in Arizona. Now, at 56, she believes President Trump is the best candidate to keep that dream alive.

Saucedo is among a coalition of Republican Latinos in the battleground state of Arizona who believe having Trump for a second term would guarantee their concerns and conservative social values — centered on the economy and faith — are protected and maintained.

“I want to have the opportunity to continue with my American Dream, that is why I came to this country as an immigrant,” said Saucedo, who became an American citizen in 1991 and is running for a position on the Pima County Board of Supervisors.

The Latino support for Trump could be deemed counterintuitive considering he rose to power on an anti-immigration platform and inflammatory rhetoric. In the 2015 speech that launched his presidential campaign, Trump called Mexican immigrants “rapists” and drug dealers. In the years following his election, images of immigrant children in overcrowded detention centers dominated the news. The coronavirus pandemic has disproportionately affected and killed people in the Latino community.

Yet many of his Latino supporters in the Copper State, overwhelmingly of Mexican descent, point to Trump’s business-oriented policies, such as lowering taxes and lifting regulations, as more consequential actions that, they say, have benefited wages and employment levels in their communities. This, along with religious conservatism — particularly antiabortion stances — are the reasons they want to see him reelected.


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Despite Trump's actions against immigrants, these Latino voters want four more years (Original Post) brooklynite Sep 2020 OP
The absolute stupidity abounds... Raster Sep 2020 #1
Because of where I live I'm quite familiar with this dynamic in the Mexican American population BannonsLiver Sep 2020 #3
I live in Arizona and know several like this... Raster Sep 2020 #5
It disgusts me as well BannonsLiver Sep 2020 #8
I guess their minds are sponges for misinformation. NRaleighLiberal Sep 2020 #2
It's called pulling the ladder up after you COLGATE4 Sep 2020 #4
Estupidos - they have no idea-fools mshasta Sep 2020 #6
more importantly, the Latino community stopdiggin Sep 2020 #7
I think that is how some people are, when they finally get an opportunity. dubyadiprecession Sep 2020 #9
The selfishness promoted by Republicans appeals to them dlk Sep 2020 #10
If he does get another term I can imagine the wailing and whining Doremus Sep 2020 #11

Raster

(20,998 posts)
1. The absolute stupidity abounds...
Thu Sep 24, 2020, 03:06 PM
Sep 2020

"The Latino support for Trump could be deemed counterintuitive considering he rose to power on an anti-immigration platform and inflammatory rhetoric. In the 2015 speech that launched his presidential campaign, Trump called Mexican immigrants “rapists” and drug dealers. In the years following his election, images of immigrant children in overcrowded detention centers dominated the news. The coronavirus pandemic has disproportionately affected and killed people in the Latino community."

BannonsLiver

(16,435 posts)
3. Because of where I live I'm quite familiar with this dynamic in the Mexican American population
Thu Sep 24, 2020, 03:19 PM
Sep 2020

It’s the “Sure, I came to the US illegally 30 years ago, but I pulled myself up by my bootstraps and built a life. I’m special. And I’ve got mine now so fuck everyone else” point of view.

Have heard variations of this more times than I care to count, including one person who came here illegally in the 1970s, and loves to brag about how they did it, but has referred to migrant caravans as “scum.”

Raster

(20,998 posts)
5. I live in Arizona and know several like this...
Thu Sep 24, 2020, 03:22 PM
Sep 2020

...Evidently tRump* despises all brown-skinned persons, except for themselves.

yeah, I hear ya... there are several Latinos I was friends with and just can't handle their out-and-out hypocrisy.

BannonsLiver

(16,435 posts)
8. It disgusts me as well
Thu Sep 24, 2020, 03:26 PM
Sep 2020

I also sometimes wonder if those feelings are also the result of the corrupting nature of American culture, and the heavy focus on consumerism and social status.

mshasta

(2,108 posts)
6. Estupidos - they have no idea-fools
Thu Sep 24, 2020, 03:25 PM
Sep 2020

I know my people they are coming from the hard core conservative side , most of the north of Mexico is very conservative and catholic with 3 times per week visit to the church, they still hurt that land was share to the people after the Mexican revolution was over .... never ending story ...fools.

stopdiggin

(11,347 posts)
7. more importantly, the Latino community
Thu Sep 24, 2020, 03:26 PM
Sep 2020

is a lot less "immigrant friendly" than is commonly assumed. What is largely seen as a huge 'disconnect' -- is really just common human behavior. Other former 'immigrant groups' have shown much the same attitudes and behavior toward populations that followed.

And, yes -- well aware that the Latino population is not anything like a block (and neither is any other) -- and a good many of them were residing within these borders -- before there were borders. So -- even the assumption that the immigration issue would be of any greater significance to them than another population -- is an error in logic.
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dubyadiprecession

(5,720 posts)
9. I think that is how some people are, when they finally get an opportunity.
Thu Sep 24, 2020, 03:31 PM
Sep 2020

Just because they’re down and out now, doesn’t mean they don’t have an “inner asshole inside them” waiting to come out.

Doremus

(7,261 posts)
11. If he does get another term I can imagine the wailing and whining
Thu Sep 24, 2020, 04:57 PM
Sep 2020

After he ends Social Security and Medicare.
Gets rid of legal immigration
Ends any protections against discrimination
Etc, etc, etc


I'm sure they'll have lots of regrets but fat lot of good that'll do the rest of us.

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