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andym

(5,425 posts)
Mon Sep 28, 2020, 11:12 AM Sep 2020

It's not that he didn't pay much tax that bothers them, it's that he was losing money like crazy

that's what destroys his narrative as the smart, wealthy businessman sacrificing himself to help the poor white working men of the Rust Belt, etc etc. That was one of his strongest appeals to the MAGAs.

He already addressed the not paying much in taxes in 2016, and people didn't care much, because it was just an example of how smart he was. It's that he is not rich, but rather deeply in debt (>$400M personal loan guarantee coming due) and is actually a cheap grifter using the presidency to try to save his ailing businesses. He is a loser to use one of his favorite words, and his it highlights his incompetence with Covid-19 and the resulting dire human and economic consequences.

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It's not that he didn't pay much tax that bothers them, it's that he was losing money like crazy (Original Post) andym Sep 2020 OP
Exactly. They invested in a loser. They thought Trump was owning the libs but they Statistical Sep 2020 #1
Great idea for a cartoon andym Sep 2020 #2
And just to whom does he owe all that money? The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 2020 #3
That's the big question andym Sep 2020 #6
this llashram Sep 2020 #4
And every friggin Republican knew who he was and let him do it. icymist Sep 2020 #5
Some might have been fooled andym Sep 2020 #7
His fat ass is OWNED by the Russians, and that is something everyone needs to know. smirkymonkey Sep 2020 #8
Yeah, the $750 in taxes is a lot like the Pee Tape... Wounded Bear Sep 2020 #9
It's not just who gave him the loan andym Sep 2020 #10
Abso-goddam-lutely! Wounded Bear Sep 2020 #11

Statistical

(19,264 posts)
1. Exactly. They invested in a loser. They thought Trump was owning the libs but they
Mon Sep 28, 2020, 11:16 AM
Sep 2020

were the ones that got owned.

While they struggled, or lost their jobs, or couldn't afford health insurance the grifter in chief lost hundreds of millions of dollars through gross incompetence and used them to keep himself afloat.

That would make a good political cartoon. A bloated Trump keeping his head above water push putting MAGAts under.

andym

(5,425 posts)
2. Great idea for a cartoon
Mon Sep 28, 2020, 11:20 AM
Sep 2020

Should somehow include bankers demanding their loan money, and his taking it from the MAGAs and the US treasury.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(114,602 posts)
3. And just to whom does he owe all that money?
Mon Sep 28, 2020, 11:20 AM
Sep 2020

Inquiring minds want to know, because that's the big fucking deal. Who holds his debt, and why, and what kind of hold do they have over him on account of that enormous debt?

icymist

(15,888 posts)
5. And every friggin Republican knew who he was and let him do it.
Mon Sep 28, 2020, 11:36 AM
Sep 2020

Trump = Republican Trump = Republican Trump = Republican Trump = Republican (the new mantra) Trump = Republican Trump = Republican Trump = Republican Trump = Republican

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
8. His fat ass is OWNED by the Russians, and that is something everyone needs to know.
Tue Sep 29, 2020, 02:24 AM
Sep 2020

He is a massive security risk who is clearly only in this for himself and his businesses. He has never given a damn about this country or anybody in it, including the cult who worships at his feet.

Wounded Bear

(58,243 posts)
9. Yeah, the $750 in taxes is a lot like the Pee Tape...
Tue Sep 29, 2020, 02:25 AM
Sep 2020

not really interested because it's not really the point.

What worries me is the $400 million or so in debt. Who has the leverage on him for that?

Follow the money, or in this case follow the debt. That leads us to who owns Trump.

andym

(5,425 posts)
10. It's not just who gave him the loan
Tue Sep 29, 2020, 10:52 AM
Sep 2020

Last edited Tue Sep 29, 2020, 11:26 AM - Edit history (1)

like Deutsche Bank-- it's who is signing on as co-guarantors.

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