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Why the hell is the stock market up today??! (Original Post) Grasswire2 Sep 2020 OP
as my decades long financial advisor (a leftie like us) says, there is no real connection between NRaleighLiberal Sep 2020 #1
The stock market will forever be like a big, dumb dog chasing whatever passes in its sight. Tommy_Carcetti Sep 2020 #2
Maybe the market's happy Biden is more likely to win. mainer Sep 2020 #3
Beat me to it Walleye Sep 2020 #7
Absolutely WSHazel Sep 2020 #11
Good point. crickets Sep 2020 #28
That's fair. Since RW media claim the 2008 Crash was because markets were afraid of Obama. Midnight Writer Sep 2020 #30
Because Biden is winning Walleye Sep 2020 #4
Yes CloudWatcher Sep 2020 #15
It's up today because there are more buyers than sellers calguy Sep 2020 #5
The markets want Biden to win. mn9driver Sep 2020 #6
I hadn't considered that perhaps traders are GLAD about the expose' of Trump. Grasswire2 Sep 2020 #8
There's significant progress on a vaccine. Yavin4 Sep 2020 #9
... said some pharma company for the 2332435 time in the last 2 months. That may be the talking... uponit7771 Sep 2020 #12
"running to yield" Yavin4 Sep 2020 #14
👍, sounds 80 ish to me that's when I saw my first Wall Street type movie. uponit7771 Sep 2020 #16
Didn't Meatloaf do that one? lagomorph777 Sep 2020 #23
Yes, the feds can pump unlimited amounts of money into bonds to bounce equities and indicated ... uponit7771 Sep 2020 #10
the stock market is not the economy. the stock market is not the news cycle. 0rganism Sep 2020 #13
Sorry, Not Buying The Market Being Up Because Biden Is Ahead sfstaxprep Sep 2020 #17
Because the odds of dumping Trump just went up with the tax news. lagomorph777 Sep 2020 #18
Market feels we'll be better off under Biden. They've known trump was a crook and loser for years. Hoyt Sep 2020 #19
Printing money like Germany following WW I? WyattKansas Sep 2020 #20
Diversionary cover for the orangeanus. 2naSalit Sep 2020 #21
Appears Corporate America Wellstone ruled Sep 2020 #22
Because we all learned how to cheat on our taxes bottomofthehill Sep 2020 #24
It recently broke the 50 day MA... orwell Sep 2020 #25
Stock market pamdb Sep 2020 #26
Because last week it was down. JustABozoOnThisBus Sep 2020 #27
S&P Is Still Down 4.3% Over 30 Days ProfessorGAC Sep 2020 #29
I think the market is going to fall when Biden wins WSHazel Sep 2020 #31

NRaleighLiberal

(60,018 posts)
1. as my decades long financial advisor (a leftie like us) says, there is no real connection between
Mon Sep 28, 2020, 01:25 PM
Sep 2020

the stock market and politics. She also likes to say that the market has no soul.

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,190 posts)
2. The stock market will forever be like a big, dumb dog chasing whatever passes in its sight.
Mon Sep 28, 2020, 01:25 PM
Sep 2020

Except it's a lot less cute.

mainer

(12,023 posts)
3. Maybe the market's happy Biden is more likely to win.
Mon Sep 28, 2020, 01:26 PM
Sep 2020

And yesterday's news is good news to investors.

WSHazel

(159 posts)
11. Absolutely
Mon Sep 28, 2020, 01:34 PM
Sep 2020

Wall Street contributions are about 5:1 in favor of Biden. The Street absolutely wants Biden to win. TikTok was the final straw for a lot of the Wall Street folks I know. When the government tries to seize successful private businesses and hand them to cronies of the President, it is no longer capitalism.

mn9driver

(4,428 posts)
6. The markets want Biden to win.
Mon Sep 28, 2020, 01:27 PM
Sep 2020

It’s pretty clear that Trump's ability to control the virus and get the economy going is nonexistent.

Grasswire2

(13,571 posts)
8. I hadn't considered that perhaps traders are GLAD about the expose' of Trump.
Mon Sep 28, 2020, 01:29 PM
Sep 2020

But the crap we are going to have to go through to get rid of him, and then recover from him surely isn't going to help the economy.

uponit7771

(90,353 posts)
12. ... said some pharma company for the 2332435 time in the last 2 months. That may be the talking...
Mon Sep 28, 2020, 01:34 PM
Sep 2020

... head excuse but US T bills being flattened is the main reason; people running to yield

uponit7771

(90,353 posts)
10. Yes, the feds can pump unlimited amounts of money into bonds to bounce equities and indicated ...
Mon Sep 28, 2020, 01:31 PM
Sep 2020

... they'll do just that.

US T Bills are a safe haven for money but not if the US gov is buying them by hoards

0rganism

(23,962 posts)
13. the stock market is not the economy. the stock market is not the news cycle.
Mon Sep 28, 2020, 01:35 PM
Sep 2020

i recommend not trying too hard to connect them.

but if you must...
maybe the market is up because Trump is down in the polls and less likely to be re-elected, thus leading to predictions of economic recovery? or maybe there are other financial forces at work that are invisible to the general public? maybe foreign markets are doing well and domestic stocks for globally-operating companies with large foreign holdings are benefitting from that?

almost anything that makes the national news has a complex ripple effect.

sfstaxprep

(9,998 posts)
17. Sorry, Not Buying The Market Being Up Because Biden Is Ahead
Mon Sep 28, 2020, 01:39 PM
Sep 2020

The Market is one of the only things keeping Drumpf's #'s from collapsing through the floor.

If the Market were closer to 20K than 30K, there would be a Landslide against him.

If the Market were responding to Biden's lead, rather than what is more likely, that it's trying to help save Drumpf's candidacy, it would not go up until it was certain Biden is going to win. We're not there yet.

We'll see what happens after 11/3, when results become known.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
19. Market feels we'll be better off under Biden. They've known trump was a crook and loser for years.
Mon Sep 28, 2020, 01:44 PM
Sep 2020

WyattKansas

(1,648 posts)
20. Printing money like Germany following WW I?
Mon Sep 28, 2020, 01:54 PM
Sep 2020

One percent Republicans pumping the market back up to keep it inflated?

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
22. Appears Corporate America
Mon Sep 28, 2020, 02:01 PM
Sep 2020

is planning on a major shut down in January.

And we start the fourth quarter on Thursday. Lots of shorts needed covering as well as Margin Calls .

Sounds like the FX traders as well as the Oil Futures boys are getting their come upens.

bottomofthehill

(8,343 posts)
24. Because we all learned how to cheat on our taxes
Mon Sep 28, 2020, 02:10 PM
Sep 2020

Going to do my best Trump to pay 750 in taxes and invest the rest in an IRA

orwell

(7,775 posts)
25. It recently broke the 50 day MA...
Mon Sep 28, 2020, 02:16 PM
Sep 2020

...and is making an attempt to rally back above it.

Also, the other day when the House made another attempt at a stimulus package the market started rebounding from it's recent slide.

Those so-called "rugged individuals" do love those government handouts...just not for, you know, "poor" people...

pamdb

(1,332 posts)
26. Stock market
Mon Sep 28, 2020, 02:20 PM
Sep 2020


I don’t know and I don’t care. After a week of everything in the red every damn day, I’m just grateful to see some green.

ProfessorGAC

(65,136 posts)
29. S&P Is Still Down 4.3% Over 30 Days
Mon Sep 28, 2020, 02:43 PM
Sep 2020

But, up 3% YTD.
There's probably a little bargain hunting going on after last week's drop, and some Q3 forecasts looking good for some big companies.

WSHazel

(159 posts)
31. I think the market is going to fall when Biden wins
Tue Sep 29, 2020, 10:23 AM
Sep 2020

The Republicans will go on the attack when that happens, but actually it is a good thing if the market reprices and we stop the insane asset inflation that Mnuchin and Powell have been doing for the last 4 years.

High stock prices are good when they are the result of a strong economy. High stock prices are bad when they are the result of a government inflated asset bubble, which is what we are in right now.

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