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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWhoa! My right wing sister has moved all the way from simply giving up on Trump...
...to voting for Biden!
Back in late May I posted this: Be on the lookout for flying cows and frost warnings from Hell!
...about how Trump's handling of COVID finally broke through her denial and her Fox News talking points and defenses (which had been in full force just a few weeks before), so she just couldn't vote for Trump anymore.
At that time, however, she was still on her anti-Biden talking points, and said she'd probably vote Libertarian.
I haven't talked politics at all with her since then, as I was just going to give her space after this big a change... and then I just heard from my nephew that she's gone all the way over to Biden since then!
I checked her Facebook page, and she's still putting everything in terms of her Christianity (which maybe isn't so right wing anymore?), but she's got stuff defending Biden from unfair attacks, pro-BLM articles and memes, an article about how Christians can vote for Democrats and about how Republicans have manipulated Christians with the abortion issue... it's quite a change.
I certainly hope she's a sign of changes that could be happening in more people!
Oh... I should add: She's in Ohio!
MaryMagdaline
(6,854 posts)empedocles
(15,751 posts)Very good
lunatica
(53,410 posts)Aviation91
(114 posts)LakeArenal
(28,817 posts)Glad she found it.
Thank her for me when you talk.
soldierant
(6,866 posts)Knowing how the RWNJs work, she has to be taking major flak and plenty of it, and is still standing.
Cha
(297,218 posts)TomSlick
(11,098 posts)just can't abide the "stuff" anymore. Thank heaven your sister got there sooner and not later.
One at a time.
Silent3
(15,211 posts)...but unfortunately she's great (or has been) at using that intelligence to build complex rationalizations and memorize encyclopedic volumes of misinformation.
rurallib
(62,415 posts)there may be a huge change yet to come.
TomSlick
(11,098 posts)The inconsistencies became too great.
dhol82
(9,353 posts)Congratulations to both of you.
NNadir
(33,518 posts)Congrats.
I have a brother to whom I haven't spoken in over 20 years, and sometimes I feel bad about that. I'm glad you were better than me and able to keep talking to her.
Silent3
(15,211 posts)...and often got angry when I thought about the idea of talking to her, because of all the things I'd want to say, but I'd normally keep bottled up.
Perhaps deciding to let some of that anger go, and going ahead with having a bit of an angry talk with her about Trump, made part of the difference in changing her mind.
Another part of it, from what I hear, is that she was rightly concerned about COVID, and did not like how so many of her right-wing friends were going along with anti-masking, anti-shutdown talking points. I think that became a big part of how she finally started to see how much misinformation in so many forms was being spread.
dware
(12,375 posts)but they're voting Biden/Harris, he's really pissed us long haul truckers off.
This is from May of this year, but it still holds true, even more so now.
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/05/angry-truckers-turn-on-trump-over-failed-promises-prove-me-wrong-mr-president/
Angry truckers turn on Trump over failed promises: Prove me wrong Mr. President
Last week the truckers held a protest outside of a White House Rose Garden press conference, honking their horns to disrupt the president only to have the Trump tell reporters they were expressing their love for him.
That, in turn, angered truckers even more.
In fact, its a protest on what truck drivers say is a lack of transparency in how their rates are calculated. Since the beginning of the coronavirus pandemic, their pay has sank to unusually low rates, the report states before adding, Some 100 to 200 truck drivers have parked in Washington, DC, since May 1, according to Todd Spencer, who is the president of the Owner-Operator Independent Drivers Association. For weeks, these drivers have sacrificed their pay to protest.
He has really, really pissed us off, luckily, I have a very good agent that usually gets me good paying loads and he tries to keep me in the S. Western part of the US.
bdamomma
(63,849 posts)seen the LIGHT!!!!!!!
Tell her to come out of the darkness.
FakeNoose
(32,639 posts)I'm starting to think we're NOT going to have a Civil War over Chump after all!
I mean, is this guy worth it? Of course not. But so many families have been split up, and friendships ruined over that asshole. We're better than that, aren't we?
LiberalFighter
(50,928 posts)Now if she votes Biden that is a +2 vote swing for Biden.
colsohlibgal
(5,275 posts)I live in a fairly upscale part of the Columbus Metro Area and in the last week, driving here and there, I have seem lots of Biden/Harris yard signs and still not one Orange Criminal one!
How desperate must Twitler be, he must know the legal jeopardy he will be in once out of that Office. Couldnt happen to a more deserving Creep.
lonely bird
(1,685 posts)I live in Portage county which is so red as to be infrared. That being said I have seen some Biden signs.
True Blue American
(17,984 posts)Transportation Company? 5 brothers, only one still living. He used to drive our bus occasionally to the Casinos. Has a mansion here in Englewood.
Biden/ Harris and Democratic signs all over his yard.
I first noticed a few tiny Trump signs. Then all of a sudden Harris/Biden signs began showing up. Now people are stealing them!
panfluteman
(2,065 posts)If men could get pregnant, abortion would be a holy sacrament.
AlexSFCA
(6,137 posts)SlogginThroughIt
(1,977 posts)But I highly doubt that her husband is.
Joinfortmill
(14,419 posts)calimary
(81,264 posts)Thanks for sharing it with us!
EVERY little bit of good news counts, and adds up.
JudyM
(29,241 posts)Love the part about recognizing the manipulation.
Totally Tunsie
(10,885 posts)hkp11
(275 posts)Your sister is now back to reality!
Silent3
(15,211 posts)But a bit closer for sure
lindysalsagal
(20,684 posts)Wounded Bear
(58,654 posts)GoneOffShore
(17,339 posts)Rabrrrrrr
(58,349 posts)that enough of his supporters will leave and go to Biden. And I pray to God that all those who are willing to move away from Trump will be willing to go for Biden and not a third party, because that doesn't help the country at all.
sarchasm
(1,012 posts)Hell IS exothermic!
BlancheSplanchnik
(20,219 posts)And all of us!
CousinIT
(9,244 posts)She's a Trumper. Most she'd do is a write in some RW goon who isn't on the ballot. Pfft.
pandr32
(11,583 posts)You must be relieved. Many of the rest of us are hoping for the same.
I have heard time and time again that 'truth has a certain ring to it' (Hemingway I think) and it seems your sister finally heard it.
Alacritous Crier
(3,816 posts)Trump truly is toast!
GOTV!
mchill
(1,018 posts)I know of two Trump voters who are not only voting for Biden now, but the mother discovered he is Roman Catholic like her and excited to vote for him. The daughter has awoken to the BS and politics in general as her mother high risk for the virusafter her 50 years she has became a quick study of the candidates and politic history. She now is a very outspoken critic of Trump.
OMGWTF
(3,955 posts)The Rethugs went after the church-going folk many years ago, because they're clearly easily led and will believe incredible things without any evidence. I was raised strict Catholic, including school, but since about age 13, I have rejected religion because I have a conscience and can think critically for myself. None of it made any sense to me. When I would challenge the nuns on a point they couldn't explain, their pat reply was, "There are some things we're not supposed to understand." I was not satisfied with that answer.
Early religion was created to explain the unexplainable and then to control people. Modern religion is all about the Benjamins. It's a GD scam of epic proportions that's been going on for a very long time. Remember the story about the moneychangers in the church that caused Jesus to get pissed off the only time in the New Testament? Ever been to the Vatican? The priceless artifacts you see are a small percentage of what they have in storage. Tax the churches until they are run out of business. We don't need them. Besides, the Bible says to pray in a closet and that your relationship with God is personal.
"I like your Christ. I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ." -- M Gandhi
Blue Owl
(50,372 posts)Glad more and more people are seeing the light!
babylonsister
(171,065 posts)Trump Secretly Mocks His Christian Supporters
September 29, 2020 at 7:54 am EDT By Taegan Goddard
McKay Coppins: The presidents alliance with religious conservatives has long been premised on the contention that he takes them seriously, while Democrats hold them in disdain. In speeches and interviews, Trump routinely lavishes praise on conservative Christians, casting himself as their champion. My administration will never stop fighting for Americans of faith, he declared at a rally for evangelicals earlier this year. Its a message his campaign will seek to amplify in the coming weeks as Republicans work to confirm Amy Coney Barretta devout, conservative Catholicto the Supreme Court.
But in private, many of Trumps comments about religion are marked by cynicism and contempt, according to people who have worked for him. Former aides told me theyve heard Trump ridicule conservative religious leaders, dismiss various faith groups with cartoonish stereotypes, and deride certain rites and doctrines held sacred by many of the Americans who constitute his base.
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cheezmaka
(737 posts)So there's hope for my friends that have been CONNED after all! Maybe it just took the horrors of COVID-19 and a big hit to the pocket book to wake some of the Trumpters up!
speaknow
(321 posts)my Mother was a Repub and said she's
going to vote for Biden. My answer to her
would be Mom that's the first you
ever lied to me!