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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsNot smart politics to hand a flailing president a major legislative achievement 30 days before E-day
We agreee with that right? The Dow is in a 2-day orgasm already over the news. Also, why negotiate while an illegitimate president is trying to stack the Supreme Court with rabid partisans?
Make that 2 if ACB sneaks through.
Also unemployment is set to drop below 8% on Friday and the Dow is near record highs so no need for stimulus right now anyway.
Flame away!
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Sgent
(5,858 posts)but if its a good bill its BADLY needed right now, and our leverage will be nothing after Nov 2 until Jan 20.
bullimiami
(13,346 posts)Because trump might try to jump in front of the parade and pretend hes heading it?
The only people that would credit trump already carry flags with him as Superman.
LizBeth
(10,083 posts)finger for politics. I am sure that will get a lot of high fives.
stopdiggin
(11,925 posts)stop their damn sniveling! That rent can wait for another couple of months!
"the Dow is at a high ..."
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LizBeth
(10,083 posts)msongs
(68,470 posts)UCmeNdc
(9,619 posts)The GOP will claim credit and get elected on this.
Tell the Democratic leadership to wait until after the election.
Be smart, work on it but do not pass anything.
BannonsLiver
(17,130 posts)I consumed a lot of news today. Not one mention of any of that.
What I did hear a lot about though is Trump refusing to condemn white supremacists, his unhinged debate performance, and his bad poll numbers.
I also heard a bit about the extremely high profile layoffs at companies like Disney and American Airlines, which are bound to get quite a bit of attention in the coming days. That wont be good for Trump.
Not here to flame but I dont think whatever ends up happening with this legislation, if anything at all, moveS the needle for Donnie. Hes awash with problems. No one thing is going to fix them.
stopdiggin
(11,925 posts)or the rationale behind it. It's just that we understand it -- and think it's BS.
Donald Trump is sinking like a bloody rock, deeper and faster every day -- and yet we're suppose to give the disadvantaged and the working poor a sucker punch to the gut -- just to drive the point home further. I'm not only not ON BOARD with that -- but I have to tell you I'm awfully glad that my vote isn't going toward supporting anyone that thinks like that.
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NewsCenter28
(1,837 posts)Exactly. No one was talking about it so why Speaker Pelosi decided to have a summit out of nowhere with Mnuchin 33 days before E-day is puzzling. If she's trying to save vulnerable members in Republican districts, that's ill-advised. Her top priority morally should be getting the former Vice President elected. If she wants to do good morally, surely she knows that less people will be hurt and more will get ahead under a Biden presidency rather than having 2 extra house members to pass bills that McConnell and a re-elected Toad won't even consider anyways. Also those 2 extra members won't stop SCOTUS nominations to the right of Atilla the Hun either.
Anyways, hopefully y'all are right and this doesn't move the needle at all.
MrsCoffee
(5,805 posts)LizBeth
(10,083 posts)The only breaks in it has been when they take their breaks. She actually feels a responsibility to take care of the people.
I read last night I think American Airlines laying off 33000. They said they had expected another stimulus and if it can be done in the next couple days they will not drop 19000. This is people lives.
Hospitals need the money and the medical field need other stuff promised from a stimulus. The states need help. Covid is spiking again in a lot of areas and hospitals are starting to have a tough time.
And a lot of things happening I do not know.
Sherman A1
(38,958 posts)Folks need help and needed it long ago. Waiting any longer than necessary is a terrible idea.
I believe that the GOP was always waiting until October to buy votes with a second stimulus package and political points aside people need help.
greenjar_01
(6,477 posts)The OP is telling on himself in more than one way.
muriel_volestrangler
(101,840 posts)and it's not legislative, either.
Just because Trump thinks the Dow is a good measure, that doesn't mean it is. So ignore whether it's at a high.
A lot of the economy is still struggling. Many people are still struggling. A stimulus is still needed, and you can't just give that up because someone like Mnuchin has recognized that too. Politics is not just "do everything to hurt your opponent".
LizBeth
(10,083 posts)Buckeyeblue
(5,569 posts)Even if a bill did have stimulus money, there would be no way to get that out, at this point, before 11/3.
The Magistrate
(95,729 posts)"Good policy is good politics."
bigtree
(87,929 posts)...it was always on the republican Senate leadership to produce a bill that would reconcile easily with the House bill.
This is republicans coming back to a table that Nancy Pelosi, Speaker Pelosi set. This time they're either bringing gifts, or stepping off.
radius777
(3,759 posts)like 'compassionate conservatives', ie 'Trump's really not that bad of a guy after all'. Swing voters who don't understand politics that much will just see it as a Trump win. It undercuts Biden's critique of Trump as an unfeeling rich guy whose selfishness and mismanagement led to 200k deaths.
Trump still has good ratings on the economy despite all that has happened, and I suspect the Cares Act may have something to do with it. IOW, what was an FDR/left-wing type of bill that people should be thanking Dems for - they don't necessarily do that.
We need to wait until after the election to pass anything and simply make it retroactive. Doing anything now could upset the dynamics which doesn't make sense when we're solidly ahead.