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Boogiemack

(1,406 posts)
Thu Oct 1, 2020, 07:00 PM Oct 2020

So, the Proud Boys do not want to be called "white supremacists?

I don't recall anyone calling them "white supremacists" at the debate but i could be wrong. I thought I heard Trump ask who do you want me to name and Biden said the Proud Boys. Am I wrong about this? Trump was just focused on not having to say the words "white supremacists" so he went along with saying "Proud Boys" so he could claim to this white supremacists friends that he was just naming Proud Boys to satisfy Biden but and could say to his supporters that he really didn't mean it.

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So, the Proud Boys do not want to be called "white supremacists? (Original Post) Boogiemack Oct 2020 OP
Something about them hating Jews more. C_U_L8R Oct 2020 #1
The are pro-fascist and pro-white supremacist. David__77 Oct 2020 #2
How about Neo-Nazis or Nazis then? NewJeffCT Oct 2020 #3
I think they prefer "Nationalists" TheRealNorth Oct 2020 #4
I don't think they think about race or anything else very much. Remember that Gavin McInnes... TreasonousBastard Oct 2020 #5
Frankly Joe put this ear worm in Trump's head underpants Oct 2020 #6
I love Joe's smile :-) C_U_L8R Oct 2020 #9
Boys in their title is like a prison gang. These are a few freaks pwb Oct 2020 #7
They can cross the word "patriots" off their list of possible label choices. Brother Mythos Oct 2020 #8
Certainly calling themselves 'proud boys' is kind of pathetic too. They (the thugs listed in the... SWBTATTReg Oct 2020 #10
Why not call them White Proud Boys? LiberalFighter Oct 2020 #11
proud to be white itty bitty boys. ihas2stinkyfeet Oct 2020 #13
I have a name for them Sherman A1 Oct 2020 #12
FYI Trumpocalypse Oct 2020 #16
Please stop recommending my responses. Ptah Oct 2020 #18
Skinheads? central scrutinizer Oct 2020 #14
Try "Brownshirts." moondust Oct 2020 #15
Who cares what they want to be called. They are what they do. Caliman73 Oct 2020 #17
What about Soy Boys? Beta Boys? Clown Jobs? BlueWavePsych Oct 2020 #19

David__77

(23,828 posts)
2. The are pro-fascist and pro-white supremacist.
Thu Oct 1, 2020, 07:04 PM
Oct 2020

The Nazi/fascist sector has people filtering about under various names. It's most certainly a fascist organization motivated by fascist ideology.

TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
5. I don't think they think about race or anything else very much. Remember that Gavin McInnes...
Thu Oct 1, 2020, 07:07 PM
Oct 2020

started them as a joke that got away from him.

Now they are just a gang

underpants

(184,171 posts)
6. Frankly Joe put this ear worm in Trump's head
Thu Oct 1, 2020, 07:08 PM
Oct 2020

Your point about him not wanting to say white supremacy could be correct. Watch the short clip. Trump is flustered. Wallace is on him. Joe says Proud Boys twice. The second time Trump glances at him and reached for the lifeline. Joe smiling through the whole thing too.

pwb

(11,896 posts)
7. Boys in their title is like a prison gang. These are a few freaks
Thu Oct 1, 2020, 07:13 PM
Oct 2020

that deserve no mention anywhere. IMO.

SWBTATTReg

(22,828 posts)
10. Certainly calling themselves 'proud boys' is kind of pathetic too. They (the thugs listed in the...
Thu Oct 1, 2020, 07:23 PM
Oct 2020

title) are way too late in wanting not to be called 'white nationalists'...they are, and they are thugs, bullies, racists, basement trolls, etc., just off the top of my head, IMHO (and I could come up w/ lots more appropriate names if they want). Idiots. Way too late.

moondust

(20,202 posts)
15. Try "Brownshirts."
Thu Oct 1, 2020, 07:53 PM
Oct 2020

H̶i̶t̶l̶e̶r̶'̶s̶ Trump's white supremacist paramilitary standing down and standing by, awaiting further orders.

I'll bet they'd prefer "Whiteshirts" this time around.

Caliman73

(11,767 posts)
17. Who cares what they want to be called. They are what they do.
Thu Oct 1, 2020, 08:06 PM
Oct 2020

They support White Supremacy, whether they call it "Identitarianism", White Nationalism", White Chauvinism, etc... They, by their actions, support White Supremacy so they are White Supremacists.

This country was founded on the idea (not explicitly but definitely) that White people of European heritage, and specific heritage at that, were superior to other "races", to the extent that a whole other group of people based on skin color and ancestry were kept as chattel slaves and treated as property. It is embedded in to the fibers of this country, likely into the fibers of the documents that established the country.

We are awash in the legacy of White Supremacy and must actively fight to confront that idea. What the Proud Boys "wish" to be called or not is irrelevant. They are White Supremacists. Even the non-White members in their ranks are White Supremacists.

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