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Be prepared for Pence replacing Trump before the election. (Original Post) JoeOtterbein Oct 2020 OP
Nope, not happening. TwilightZone Oct 2020 #1
It may not be up to him aeromanKC Oct 2020 #2
Everything is up to him. TwilightZone Oct 2020 #6
I think it's highly possible he is going to become very ill and perhaps more. Earthshine2 Oct 2020 #14
He has been a fucking mess for 4 years and Republicans have done nothing JI7 Oct 2020 #17
If they 25th him, they can kiss the base goodbye. tinrobot Oct 2020 #19
I think he's headed for a Covid crash and ventilator nt maryellen99 Oct 2020 #4
Yep, his COVID run is just starting. It's going to get ugly. johnnyrocket Oct 2020 #5
I hope so. nt CozyMystery Oct 2020 #8
Very good chance of this. That salute on the balcony might have been his last. nt Earthshine2 Oct 2020 #15
Yup. God will bestow even greater blessings upon him. lagomorph777 Oct 2020 #28
How many times do we have to post this??? Nt USALiberal Oct 2020 #3
So what....You think Pence is gonna win this for Trump? OAITW r.2.0 Oct 2020 #7
I'm prepared, but not expecting it. SunSeeker Oct 2020 #9
Joe. it ain't happening OAITW r.2.0 Oct 2020 #10
You rock! NurseJackie Oct 2020 #32
So he will beat Wm Henry HARRISON's 31 days in office by a couple of months!1 UTUSN Oct 2020 #11
Here's why I think it will happen - Mme. Defarge Oct 2020 #12
Faking deaths seems too hard to do Polybius Oct 2020 #20
Good point! Mme. Defarge Oct 2020 #26
Not a whole slew of surgeons Polybius Oct 2020 #27
This message was self-deleted by its author Mme. Defarge Oct 2020 #30
Gotta say I always wondered about Mme. Defarge Oct 2020 #31
Only... Xolodno Oct 2020 #13
Trumpers will love that development. Cracklin Charlie Oct 2020 #16
Never happening. He goes down with the ship. GulfCoast66 Oct 2020 #18
Only one way that happens, Trump is in a coma, chewing on his breathing tube come election day Baclava Oct 2020 #21
Maybe. Or maybe they'll pull a weekend at Bernie's until the election. Vivienne235729 Oct 2020 #22
Unless trump is totally disabled on a ventatlator, he will not drop out Gothmog Oct 2020 #23
Not a Snowballs Chance in Hell Willto Oct 2020 #24
That only happens if Trump is not able to prevent it DFW Oct 2020 #25
You're not serious brooklynite Oct 2020 #29

TwilightZone

(25,485 posts)
1. Nope, not happening.
Tue Oct 6, 2020, 11:23 PM
Oct 2020

Trump's ego won't let that happen. You think he's done all this showboating just to drop out?

 

Earthshine2

(4,044 posts)
14. I think it's highly possible he is going to become very ill and perhaps more.
Tue Oct 6, 2020, 11:55 PM
Oct 2020

But, I agree with your point about the absolute dictator of the executive branch.

tinrobot

(10,916 posts)
19. If they 25th him, they can kiss the base goodbye.
Wed Oct 7, 2020, 12:37 AM
Oct 2020

However, his health may not hold out until November,

SunSeeker

(51,715 posts)
9. I'm prepared, but not expecting it.
Tue Oct 6, 2020, 11:31 PM
Oct 2020

Trump might end up on a vent, but he's too much of a megalomaniac to volutarily resign from the top of the ticket.



I understand where you're coming from though. After all, Sarah Palin quit the governor's office to get away ftom ethics issues.

OAITW r.2.0

(24,610 posts)
10. Joe. it ain't happening
Tue Oct 6, 2020, 11:36 PM
Oct 2020

Sorry, your daughter ain't getting Bernie elected. She will have to vote with the rest of us.

Mme. Defarge

(8,044 posts)
12. Here's why I think it will happen -
Tue Oct 6, 2020, 11:51 PM
Oct 2020

He knows he’s losing by a landslide too big to steal. If Pence replaces him then Pence will take the blame for the loss. Trump could claim he dropped out to help science by trying out experimental treatments, or, maybe fake his own death (my pet theory), or not fake his death.

Mme. Defarge

(8,044 posts)
26. Good point!
Wed Oct 7, 2020, 02:42 PM
Oct 2020

Last edited Wed Oct 7, 2020, 03:50 PM - Edit history (1)

No ethical, responsible physicians would ever lie to the public about the President’s condition, would they?

Polybius

(15,483 posts)
27. Not a whole slew of surgeons
Wed Oct 7, 2020, 11:27 PM
Oct 2020

It would take a massive team of them to convince to lie. Has anyone famous ever pulled of faking a death in the past 40 years? Don't say Tupac.

Response to Polybius (Reply #27)

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
18. Never happening. He goes down with the ship.
Tue Oct 6, 2020, 11:59 PM
Oct 2020

All he watched is fox. He doesn’t believe his advisors because he is smarter.

In his mind he will win.

If he loses in a decisive fashion however, I see him packing it up and going to Florida. Leaving the country in the lurch.

Gothmog

(145,567 posts)
23. Unless trump is totally disabled on a ventatlator, he will not drop out
Wed Oct 7, 2020, 01:27 AM
Oct 2020

trump's base will not accept anyone else and trump is hoping to leverage his base to for a NY state pardon. I do not believe that trump really believe that he can truly contest the election results if the current polling results are accurate. If the current polls are accurate, Biden will win by a landslide and there will be no legitimate way to contest the election result. Floriuda will have accurate election results out on election night that will be good except for some miliary ballots. If trump loses Florida, then any election contest will be doomed to fail. However trump's threats could give him leverage to negotiate a plea deal with Governor Cuomo, AG James or DA Cyrus Vance where trump would agree to a peaceful transfer of power in exchange for no prison time for NY state tax charges.

I believe that trump will either pardon himself or will resign and have Pence pardon him for all federal crimes. trump may pardon his family members and some loyal idiots like Barr. The pardon will get rid of federal crimes and so trump needs to worry about state crimes and hsi biggest risk is NY state. I believe that trump will cur a deal with NY for a peaceful transfer of power in exchange for no prison time for turmp and perhaps members of his family

Carville agrees with my theory





This would be in effect a plea deal and not a pardon


If trump drops out now, he loses bargaining leverage with NY AG James and DA Cyrus Vance

Willto

(292 posts)
24. Not a Snowballs Chance in Hell
Wed Oct 7, 2020, 04:24 AM
Oct 2020

Trumps ego could never let that happen. If he still has a pulse he will be on the ticket.

DFW

(54,443 posts)
25. That only happens if Trump is not able to prevent it
Wed Oct 7, 2020, 04:46 AM
Oct 2020

He doesn't have to be compos mentis. Hell, there is plenty of evidence that he is not that now. But if he is still able to give orders, and they are coherent enough to be understood, Pence will be there panting like a good poodle, doing whatever fearless leader tells him to. If Trump is breathing and conscious, and doesn't have a tube stuck down his throat, he will not stand for anyone replacing him, and there is not enough backbone among those who could invoke 25 to do it. Ain't gonna happen.

Besides, at this point, I think the Republicans are starting to think their future depends on everything being Trump's fault, and no fault whatsoever of theirs. The crew of a sinking ship never volunteers to go down with the captain. If he loses as bigly as it looks like now, they will want no part of the blame. If they lose the Senate majority (even now, not a sure thing), they will want it to be Trump's fault alone. Their "valiant" Republican senators went down swinging. The fact that plenty of the endangered ones are completely useless will be swept so far under the rug, that, if they lose their seats, their names will forthwith be mentioned less than the names of CIA officers who died in the line of duty. Susan Collins? Martha McSally? Who? never heard of them. One hit pop singers in the 1950s, maybe?

brooklynite

(94,738 posts)
29. You're not serious
Wed Oct 7, 2020, 11:33 PM
Oct 2020

Absent Trump quitting or dying, there’s no process to change the Party nominee at this point.

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