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Debate thread #2 (Original Post) flibbitygiblets Oct 2020 OP
Yeah, he's not helping at all. And he looks creepy not helping. nolabear Oct 2020 #1
Pence lying that Trump has paid tens of millions in taxes flibbitygiblets Oct 2020 #2
did you hear him include things like payroll taxes? Hey, Pence, those are NOT INCOME TAXES spooky3 Oct 2020 #22
K&R, Pence just keeps droning on and on uponit7771 Oct 2020 #3
I always said he was nothing but a wooden mannequin BumRushDaShow Oct 2020 #4
not wood. wood was alive IcyPeas Oct 2020 #7
.... BumRushDaShow Oct 2020 #17
We call him the wax dummy in our house... BlueIdaho Oct 2020 #8
... BumRushDaShow Oct 2020 #33
Love it. nt iluvtennis Oct 2020 #102
Damnit, Pence keeps speaking after his time is up, and most of his answers he is saying nothing still_one Oct 2020 #5
Kicking the thread. Kamala is killing! nolabear Oct 2020 #6
Science!!! yes IcyPeas Oct 2020 #9
That was awesome the way she looked over at him and stressed Science! chowder66 Oct 2020 #15
YES - she speaks up for Science! consider_this Oct 2020 #10
LIAR Pence! EOM consider_this Oct 2020 #11
Pence needs to know that every time he lies... RainCaster Oct 2020 #12
Obama handed them 4.6 UE rate !!! omfg uponit7771 Oct 2020 #13
Pence bdamomma Oct 2020 #14
Hear, hear! smirkymonkey Oct 2020 #107
Pence is no different than Trump Sunsky Oct 2020 #16
To those concerned she's not being aggressive enough tishaLA Oct 2020 #18
He has learned well from his orange master. consider_this Oct 2020 #19
Kamala is wiping the floor with a giant wooden Q-Tip! flibbitygiblets Oct 2020 #20
Kamala should have been specific. No one over 400K will be paying more taxes. still_one Oct 2020 #21
she just said that but after she says, "I'm speaking" she needs to keep talking spooky3 Oct 2020 #29
I jumped the gun on that still_one Oct 2020 #41
I'm waiting for her to say, "You're lying, Mike!" phylny Oct 2020 #23
Pence - "The slowest economic recovery on record" Stargleamer Oct 2020 #24
Pence hasn't made any original point at all. JohnnyLib2 Oct 2020 #25
Shut up Pence for chrissakes where's the moderator? IcyPeas Oct 2020 #26
I am waiting bdamomma Oct 2020 #37
she is probably dying to IcyPeas Oct 2020 #55
Senator Harris (and VP Biden) maui902 Oct 2020 #75
Recommended. H2O Man Oct 2020 #27
She is good. I adore her. phylny Oct 2020 #28
+1 H2O Man Oct 2020 #32
Me too. Demsrule86 Oct 2020 #69
Wow Mossfern Oct 2020 #30
"There was a time when our country believed in science." Mersky Oct 2020 #31
Good for you Kamala! Mossfern Oct 2020 #34
Fuck pence, and the moderator is letting him interrupt and violate the rules. still_one Oct 2020 #35
Susan is awful NorthOf270 Oct 2020 #76
When the moderator has lost control maui902 Oct 2020 #99
Exactly still_one Oct 2020 #100
He interrupted me and I'd like to finish. SlogginThroughIt Oct 2020 #36
she has told bdamomma Oct 2020 #47
Since when is fraking Mossfern Oct 2020 #38
Climate Change topic coming up! flibbitygiblets Oct 2020 #39
She missed a great opportunity to compare four years of Ilsa Oct 2020 #40
The Republican Party is the conartist party, every Democrat needs to remember that DSandra Oct 2020 #42
WTF!!! Pence pround of their record on water and climate?????????? consider_this Oct 2020 #43
Fact checkers gonna love that one. JohnnyLib2 Oct 2020 #46
Pence is the perfect swamp rat BlueIdaho Oct 2020 #44
Kamala let the fucker have it still_one Oct 2020 #45
Let's hope lies and fear are not going to work at the polls this time around. consider_this Oct 2020 #48
I cannot figure why people want fossil fuel. nolabear Oct 2020 #49
I don't think they realize that there could be a win-win (more jobs, save the planet) flibbitygiblets Oct 2020 #74
"Joe Biden is responsible for saving the auto industry, and YOU voted against it!" flibbitygiblets Oct 2020 #81
Hammered him she did...fuck pence. Demsrule86 Oct 2020 #97
Not true Mike Mossfern Oct 2020 #50
Oh God, this guy just drones on and on ... and on and on uponit7771 Oct 2020 #51
moderator bdamomma Oct 2020 #95
blatant climate change denier and hog of debate time. jerk. consider_this Oct 2020 #52
trump and pence future: IcyPeas Oct 2020 #53
Kamala is fantastic! Yeah the asshole is interrupting but I think she helpisontheway Oct 2020 #54
Problem is when he starts speaking over his time limit, Harris needs to jump in still_one Oct 2020 #58
She knows it's best to let an ass be an ass ... GeorgeGist Oct 2020 #103
Unfortunately I don't think that will resonate still_one Oct 2020 #104
She is getting her points out. Demsrule86 Oct 2020 #101
Trump bdamomma Oct 2020 #56
"Do you know this administration took the words "science" and "climate change" off the website? flibbitygiblets Oct 2020 #57
Environment is getting a lot of attention. Renew Deal Oct 2020 #59
he's repeating himself IcyPeas Oct 2020 #60
GREAT rebut to his climate lacking BS by Kamala! consider_this Oct 2020 #61
Pence is floundering on environment Lars39 Oct 2020 #62
THREE times so far he's gone over his stop time. FIVE times interrupted, once at length, ancianita Oct 2020 #63
looks like pence has red eyes Marthe48 Oct 2020 #64
I can't watch anymore NorthOf270 Oct 2020 #65
Pence is not admitting that Mossfern Oct 2020 #66
Kamala is kicking ass! murdock744 Oct 2020 #67
Pence doesn't like talking about climate change. PA Democrat Oct 2020 #68
Harris: US has lost 300,000 manufacturing jobs because of the trade war. Renew Deal Oct 2020 #70
Harris: "Trump lost the trade war with China, lost more jobs than any other administration" flibbitygiblets Oct 2020 #71
She has CONVICTION and truth consider_this Oct 2020 #72
Page always allows Pence to "respond" but not Harris. Renew Deal Oct 2020 #73
Page padah513 Oct 2020 #78
I wonder how many viewers have changed the channel? BlueIdaho Oct 2020 #88
"Joe Biden has been a cheerleader for Communist China" Mossfern Oct 2020 #77
Pence would fail more fact checks than pass them. Only HE is "entitled to his own facts." ancianita Oct 2020 #78
Thank you, Vice President, Thank you, Vice President, Thank you, Vice President, Thank you, Vice Pre consider_this Oct 2020 #80
He looks like an idiot by his trampling over the rules. phylny Oct 2020 #84
Trumpers love that! consider_this Oct 2020 #87
Trumpers love it, but the majority of our country aren't Trumpers and phylny Oct 2020 #90
Kamala VivaResitance Oct 2020 #82
Halfway through Renew Deal Oct 2020 #83
Kamala when pence spews bullshit, interrupt him!!!!!!!!! still_one Oct 2020 #85
Pence not answering question again Mossfern Oct 2020 #86
The Senator will make a fine President superpatriotman Oct 2020 #89
Cut Mike's mic already! consider_this Oct 2020 #91
"Let's set the record straight. Joe Biden saved the auto industry, and Mersky Oct 2020 #92
Started debate thread #3, link below flibbitygiblets Oct 2020 #93
oooh yeah undoing everything Obama accomplished IcyPeas Oct 2020 #94
The only strategy that Trump, Pence and their enablers have is constant peggysue2 Oct 2020 #96
Kamala should have been more prepared on the environment. LuvLoogie Oct 2020 #98
fly on Pence's hair!! NJCher Oct 2020 #106
That fly gave me something to wonder about. wnylib Oct 2020 #108
I kinda' doubt it NJCher Oct 2020 #109
OK. Was just wondering 'cause it was wnylib Oct 2020 #110
This message was self-deleted by its author Silent3 Oct 2020 #105

spooky3

(33,998 posts)
22. did you hear him include things like payroll taxes? Hey, Pence, those are NOT INCOME TAXES
Wed Oct 7, 2020, 08:33 PM
Oct 2020

and if the NYTimes is wrong about those, then produce the returns to prove it.

RainCaster

(10,477 posts)
12. Pence needs to know that every time he lies...
Wed Oct 7, 2020, 08:32 PM
Oct 2020

Another baby is aborted.
Maybe he would slow down the bullshit stream.

This guy has more shit than my septic tank

bdamomma

(63,210 posts)
14. Pence
Wed Oct 7, 2020, 08:32 PM
Oct 2020

bowing for king on his knees.

Kamala is strong, and answering the questions.

Pence is FULL OF SHIT.


Green new deal, something trump and pence hate.

Sunsky

(1,737 posts)
16. Pence is no different than Trump
Wed Oct 7, 2020, 08:33 PM
Oct 2020

He's holding his own debate. He's ignoring the moderator's questions going on his own tirade and interrupting Kamala.

tishaLA

(14,176 posts)
18. To those concerned she's not being aggressive enough
Wed Oct 7, 2020, 08:33 PM
Oct 2020

She has a delicate balance because they'd love to push "Angry Black Lady" stories. She needs to use a velvet glove and a smile.

spooky3

(33,998 posts)
29. she just said that but after she says, "I'm speaking" she needs to keep talking
Wed Oct 7, 2020, 08:35 PM
Oct 2020

because he continues to talk and is stealing her time AND LYING.

Stargleamer

(1,960 posts)
24. Pence - "The slowest economic recovery on record"
Wed Oct 7, 2020, 08:34 PM
Oct 2020

this bs again, and again, and again. Pres. Obama inherited the biggest recession since the Depression, and that, plus Republican obstacles, is why recovery was slow.

JohnnyLib2

(11,201 posts)
25. Pence hasn't made any original point at all.
Wed Oct 7, 2020, 08:34 PM
Oct 2020


Everything he says has been said by Trump, Limbaugh or the other radio mouths. Robot!

maui902

(108 posts)
75. Senator Harris (and VP Biden)
Wed Oct 7, 2020, 08:47 PM
Oct 2020

needs to be prepared with a very strong statement to use when Pence (and if Trump debates again, Trump) interrupt or ignore the time limits. Basically, she and he need to be prepared to say something to the effect of "Both of us agreed to debate rules that are designed to ensure that the audience hears our answers to the questions posed. But just like President Trump, Vice President Pence continues to ignore the rules by interrupting me, repeatedly, by ignoring the time limits, and by refusing the answer the question asked. It's disrespectful to me, it's disrespectful to the moderator, and it's disrespectful to the audience."

maui902

(108 posts)
99. When the moderator has lost control
Wed Oct 7, 2020, 08:54 PM
Oct 2020

which she has, Senator Harris is absolutely entitled to go nuclear on responding to Pence's continual disrespect for the rules. The audience sees it, but if Harris (who is doing very well) can interject, at the right moment, with a statement calling Pence on the carpet for ignoring the rules and disrespecting the audience and the debate, I think it would be a seminal moment, because it recalls the "shitshow" that Trump put on in the first presidential debate and reflects the disrespect this administration has for the rules of governing--in short, the rules don't apply to us, they just apply to everyone else. Call him out, Senator Harris!

For the record, I think she's performing really well, and the TV audience can see it.

Ilsa

(61,626 posts)
40. She missed a great opportunity to compare four years of
Wed Oct 7, 2020, 08:38 PM
Oct 2020

Obama's job growth vs trump's.

I love how she puts him in his place.

DSandra

(999 posts)
42. The Republican Party is the conartist party, every Democrat needs to remember that
Wed Oct 7, 2020, 08:38 PM
Oct 2020

When you debate and go up against a Republican, you are going up against a skilled slimy cunning bullshitter. Prepare accordingly.

BlueIdaho

(13,582 posts)
44. Pence is the perfect swamp rat
Wed Oct 7, 2020, 08:39 PM
Oct 2020

After a lifetime in politics he remains a faceless emotionless lying bureaucrat with little to show except for an ability to lie fluently and wince and squint when anyone tries to put his feet to the fire.

He destroyed a state and now he’s killing over a quarter of a million Americans.

consider_this

(2,133 posts)
48. Let's hope lies and fear are not going to work at the polls this time around.
Wed Oct 7, 2020, 08:40 PM
Oct 2020

That is all he's got.

Shut up, Pence.

nolabear

(41,821 posts)
49. I cannot figure why people want fossil fuel.
Wed Oct 7, 2020, 08:40 PM
Oct 2020

Do they just not care? Are they snowed? Do they not extrapolate that new energy means new jobs?

Mossfern

(2,267 posts)
50. Not true Mike
Wed Oct 7, 2020, 08:40 PM
Oct 2020

Green energy and Paris climate accord works - idiot.
Lying about fraking.
Wildfire need forest management - FEDERAL forests.
No more hurricaines than 100 years ago.

helpisontheway

(4,990 posts)
54. Kamala is fantastic! Yeah the asshole is interrupting but I think she
Wed Oct 7, 2020, 08:41 PM
Oct 2020

has been delivering her points. Most people know that the Trump/Pence administration lies.

flibbitygiblets

(7,220 posts)
57. "Do you know this administration took the words "science" and "climate change" off the website?
Wed Oct 7, 2020, 08:43 PM
Oct 2020

Let's talk about who is prepared to lead our country on what is an existential threat to our planet. Joe has a plan, and the current administration wants to go backward.

consider_this

(2,133 posts)
61. GREAT rebut to his climate lacking BS by Kamala!
Wed Oct 7, 2020, 08:44 PM
Oct 2020

Facts, science and great she pointed out how the took science and climate off website - true, and outrageous and evidence of who they are.

ancianita

(35,448 posts)
63. THREE times so far he's gone over his stop time. FIVE times interrupted, once at length,
Wed Oct 7, 2020, 08:44 PM
Oct 2020

cutting into Harris' answer time. Within 35 minutes.

consider_this

(2,133 posts)
72. She has CONVICTION and truth
Wed Oct 7, 2020, 08:46 PM
Oct 2020

he is a bs spinner.

I think it is obvious to anyone.

We cheer for her, but I gotta think maybe even some trumpers might see this difference?!

BlueIdaho

(13,582 posts)
88. I wonder how many viewers have changed the channel?
Wed Oct 7, 2020, 08:50 PM
Oct 2020

2 hours is more Mike Pence than anyone can possibly stand watching.

Mossfern

(2,267 posts)
77. "Joe Biden has been a cheerleader for Communist China"
Wed Oct 7, 2020, 08:47 PM
Oct 2020

More than 15 seconds Mike.
We need mic cuts in these debates.

consider_this

(2,133 posts)
80. Thank you, Vice President, Thank you, Vice President, Thank you, Vice President, Thank you, Vice Pre
Wed Oct 7, 2020, 08:48 PM
Oct 2020

time to say
SHUT UP, Vice President!

phylny

(8,311 posts)
90. Trumpers love it, but the majority of our country aren't Trumpers and
Wed Oct 7, 2020, 08:50 PM
Oct 2020

can see the liar and bully for who he is.

Mersky

(4,960 posts)
92. "Let's set the record straight. Joe Biden saved the auto industry, and
Wed Oct 7, 2020, 08:51 PM
Oct 2020

you voted against it. Thank you, that is all.”

peggysue2

(10,721 posts)
96. The only strategy that Trump, Pence and their enablers have is constant
Wed Oct 7, 2020, 08:53 PM
Oct 2020

interruption and alternate facts, aka lies. Btw, did you know that Joe Biden has been a cheerleader for Communist China? Pence just declared that because Kamala had the audacity to state that Trump lost the trade deal/war with China. And Kamala is more liberal than Bernie Sanders, too. Bet Bernie's surprised.

OMG.

LuvLoogie

(6,743 posts)
98. Kamala should have been more prepared on the environment.
Wed Oct 7, 2020, 08:54 PM
Oct 2020

She should have been ready with numbers and consequences.

wnylib

(21,146 posts)
108. That fly gave me something to wonder about.
Wed Oct 7, 2020, 10:37 PM
Oct 2020

Can a fly spread coronavirus like flies and mosquitoes can spread other diseases?

If Pence is positive for covid and hiding it, is that fly a carrier?

wnylib

(21,146 posts)
110. OK. Was just wondering 'cause it was
Wed Oct 7, 2020, 11:00 PM
Oct 2020

the mosquitoes on rats that spread Bubonic Plague.

But, then, flies are not mosquitoes. Flies just hang around garbage and rotted life forms.

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