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Poiuyt

(18,123 posts)
Thu Oct 8, 2020, 09:07 PM Oct 2020

Feds say plot was bigger than kidnapping Gov. Whitmer. It was civil war attempt.

The Wolverine Watchmen militia group didn't just plot to kidnap Gov. Gretchen Whitmer, but they were on a mission to attack the state Capitol and target police officers at their homes as part of a broader mission to instigate a civil war, authorities said Thursday in announcing felony charges against 13 militia members accused in a sensational case of domestic terrorism.

Attorney General Dana Nessel referred to the accused as "extremists" who are hoping to recruit new members "by seizing on a moment of civil unrest" to wreak havoc on the country. She identified the militia group as the Wolverine Watchmen, whose members are accused of, among other things, conducting surveillance outside Whitmer's vacation residence, using code language and encrypted messages to throw off police and planting a bomb under a bridge to divert law enforcement.

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According to the FBI affidavit, the accused purchased items including a Taser and night goggles, conducted surveillance at Whitmer's cottage, and discussed blowing up a bridge to divert police, kidnapping Whitmer, and taking her to Wisconsin to face a "trial" for treason.

https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/2020/10/08/whitmer-wolverine-watchmen-militia-michigan/5924617002/

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Feds say plot was bigger than kidnapping Gov. Whitmer. It was civil war attempt. (Original Post) Poiuyt Oct 2020 OP
Wow!!! Ferrets are Cool Oct 2020 #1
Fine people! central scrutinizer Oct 2020 #2
Extremists, my ass. grumpyduck Oct 2020 #3
I Hope Other Militia's Are Being Watched.... global1 Oct 2020 #4
Gitmo still open? superpatriotman Oct 2020 #5
May they never see the light of day again. secondwind Oct 2020 #6
Sedition. Zoonart Oct 2020 #7
And when challenged they just put their hands up. Big brave revolutionaries! - n/t Jim__ Oct 2020 #8
They were trying to do a Turner diaries - Helter Skelter type of shit kimbutgar Oct 2020 #9
Ah, the old "igniting a civil war" play. Straw Man Oct 2020 #10
But, but, but what about blue lives matter? JDC Oct 2020 #11
Hillary was once again right. ffr Oct 2020 #12
Yep. calimary Oct 2020 #13
Thanks to Trump these groups are being investigated and infiltrated. Baked Potato Oct 2020 #14
That's sarcasm, I hope. MrScorpio Oct 2020 #15
What I mean to say is... Baked Potato Oct 2020 #17
Treason, Sedition, Insurrection let's start with these. usaf-vet Oct 2020 #16

global1

(25,247 posts)
4. I Hope Other Militia's Are Being Watched....
Thu Oct 8, 2020, 09:14 PM
Oct 2020

I would bet that there are similar plots being discussed in other militia's.

kimbutgar

(21,148 posts)
9. They were trying to do a Turner diaries - Helter Skelter type of shit
Thu Oct 8, 2020, 09:34 PM
Oct 2020

Luckily they got caught no Oklahoma bombing Incident. Thank God.

JDC

(10,127 posts)
11. But, but, but what about blue lives matter?
Thu Oct 8, 2020, 09:40 PM
Oct 2020

"and target police officers at their homes"

Terrorists

ffr

(22,670 posts)
12. Hillary was once again right.
Thu Oct 8, 2020, 11:49 PM
Oct 2020

tRump has done nothing good for this country. We are a divided mess!

calimary

(81,267 posts)
13. Yep.
Thu Oct 8, 2020, 11:55 PM
Oct 2020

She was right, once again.

How many times is that by now? Not sure I can count that high...

Baked Potato

(7,733 posts)
17. What I mean to say is...
Fri Oct 9, 2020, 12:30 AM
Oct 2020

Thanks to Trump’s failed presidency and stupidity, there are probably thousands of leads the FBI are following and there will be investigations we will never hear about. Right wing terrorism is more exposed now from Trump than ever could have happened without him coming along. Not from him ordering investigations, but from him calling them out of hiding thinking they won’t be investigated and prosecuted. Trump is the worst thing that ever happened to them, but not by design.

usaf-vet

(6,186 posts)
16. Treason, Sedition, Insurrection let's start with these.
Fri Oct 9, 2020, 12:14 AM
Oct 2020
"Treason against the United States shall consist only in levying war against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them aid and comfort. No person shall be convicted of treason unless on the testimony of two witnesses to the same overt act, or on confession in open Court


Sedition, crime against the state. ... Though sedition may have the same ultimate effect as treason, it is generally limited to the offense of organizing or encouraging opposition to the government in a manner (such as in speech or writing) that falls short of the more dangerous offenses constituting treason.


https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/10/252
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/part-I/chapter-115
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