Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

Nevilledog

(51,104 posts)
Fri Oct 9, 2020, 12:56 AM Oct 2020

Laura Ingraham claims the people involved in the plot to kidnap Whitmer look like anarchists...



Tweet text: Acyn Torabi
@Acyn
Laura Ingraham claims the people involved in the plot to kidnap Whitmer look like anarchists and not right-wingers
22 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
Laura Ingraham claims the people involved in the plot to kidnap Whitmer look like anarchists... (Original Post) Nevilledog Oct 2020 OP
"It wasn't me! I didn't fart! The smell came from over there!" dchill Oct 2020 #1
I know we joke about who they may look like but Doreen Oct 2020 #2
Your point? Trump is an anarchist, so is barr, all the silent gop Thekaspervote Oct 2020 #3
Anarchist is a very specific term FOX uses for so-called left-wing terrorists. Nevilledog Oct 2020 #5
Most of them were basic MAGAt types, but one was some weird anarcho, that is the one the RW is Celerity Oct 2020 #8
If you think about it anarchists are essentially the Republican base these days as cstanleytech Oct 2020 #14
The main problem is that there are many different types of anarchists, running the the entire Celerity Oct 2020 #15
Beat Me To It! ProfessorGAC Oct 2020 #17
Yeah, right dalton99a Oct 2020 #4
What are those photos of? Locutusofborg Oct 2020 #6
the RW is cherry-picking the one anarcho-type involved, and never commenting that almost all the Celerity Oct 2020 #9
Would you post the article link to where those photos are coming from please as it helps alot cstanleytech Oct 2020 #13
This message was self-deleted by its author dalton99a Oct 2020 #21
They had the typical right wing MAGASHIT look JI7 Oct 2020 #7
And these are of course mutually exclusive things cause everyone knows the motto of the Right mr_lebowski Oct 2020 #10
The right wants a government small enough to drown in a bathtub Coleman Oct 2020 #22
Info on the Wolverine Watchmen group Kaleva Oct 2020 #11
because only one is a so-called 'anarchist' (a RW one) see my various replies on this thread Celerity Oct 2020 #16
Freeperville is full of these so-called Super Patriots Kaleva Oct 2020 #12
There is a large intersection in the political circle RockCreek Oct 2020 #18
Not surprising when the can not grasp that ANFTIFA is an ideology... EarthFirst Oct 2020 #19
What a horrible woman. smirkymonkey Oct 2020 #20

Doreen

(11,686 posts)
2. I know we joke about who they may look like but
Fri Oct 9, 2020, 01:02 AM
Oct 2020

what does an anarchist look like? What does a white supremacist look like? What does a right winger look like?

Nevilledog

(51,104 posts)
5. Anarchist is a very specific term FOX uses for so-called left-wing terrorists.
Fri Oct 9, 2020, 01:07 AM
Oct 2020

Their understanding of anarchist is up there with their understanding of socialism.

Celerity

(43,376 posts)
8. Most of them were basic MAGAt types, but one was some weird anarcho, that is the one the RW is
Fri Oct 9, 2020, 02:01 AM
Oct 2020

focusing on. Brandon Caserta, 32, of Canton Township. But he is also a Boogaloo boy, so deffo not a typical LWer at all.











That all said, the RW MAGAts on Fux Newz, Breitbart, etc etc are truly some disingenuous fuckers, because they never talk about the multiple Trump nuts and white power yobbos involved as well. Almost all the plotters were Trump fanbois.

cstanleytech

(26,291 posts)
14. If you think about it anarchists are essentially the Republican base these days as
Fri Oct 9, 2020, 04:27 AM
Oct 2020

that is really the only way someone like Trump could get into office is with the help of such people as he is unfit to serve and is causing anarchy which is what the majority of Republican voters clearly wanted and still want.

Celerity

(43,376 posts)
15. The main problem is that there are many different types of anarchists, running the the entire
Fri Oct 9, 2020, 05:29 AM
Oct 2020

political spectrum, from ultra right to ultra left. Obviously the Rethug-gravitating types would be on the right wing, including the Rothbardian anarcho-capitalists (huge Ayn Rand fanboys/fangirls usually.)

This domestic terrorist asshole in the plot has little to do with the left-leaning anarchos (think Emma Goldman, Murray Bookchin, black boc (but black bloc is now often false flaggers) anarcho-syndicalists, etc etc etc). THAT type is what the fucking RWers in the Trumpian penumbra are now trying to paint him as, which is utter bollocks.

The American mass political zeitgeist has always struggled with nuance and grey areas, thus it is easy to gaslight millions of RW dupes by painting him (the terrorist) as an 'anarchist' (which again, in their skewed, brainwashed world ALWAYS equates with the left.

ProfessorGAC

(65,042 posts)
17. Beat Me To It!
Fri Oct 9, 2020, 06:23 AM
Oct 2020

Ingraham, not the sharpest knife in the drawer, thinks anarchist means leftist.
They are NOT synonyms. Not sure she knows what synonyms are either.
There are right wing anarchists. There are left wing anarchists.
And, I'd be surprised if many true anarchists want to trigger a civil war. That war would result in one side winning and taking control. Authentic anarchists don't wantbanybody in control. It's the whole point.

dalton99a

(81,488 posts)
4. Yeah, right
Fri Oct 9, 2020, 01:03 AM
Oct 2020

Last edited Fri Oct 9, 2020, 09:09 AM - Edit history (2)





https://www.thedailybeast.com/what-we-know-about-wolverine-watchmen-accused-of-terror-kidnap-plot-against-michigan-gov-gretchen-whitmer

Morrison used his property in Munith, Michigan, for militia training, according to Townsend. Members of the militia, according to Townsend, had participated in some of the same activity alleged against the federal defendants, including plotting to bomb bridges and surveilling Whitmer’s home.

“There are multiple members of the Wolverine Watchmen,” Townsend said. “Mr. Morrison was considered the commander.”

The property in question, a blighted home in rural Michigan, flies a Confederate and “Original 13” flag. (The latter has sometimes been adopted by racists, inviting controversy about its intended use in some cases.) Junk—rusted cars, a shop vac, coolers—fill the yard.

Several neighbors of the pair wouldn’t use their names for fear of retribution from the militia. But they told The Daily Beast they’d heard some shooting coming from the property. They described those who had lived at the house as “disrespectful” and said large groups regularly gathered on weekends and “bullets would be flying off their property in all directions.”

Celerity

(43,376 posts)
9. the RW is cherry-picking the one anarcho-type involved, and never commenting that almost all the
Fri Oct 9, 2020, 02:04 AM
Oct 2020

rest were bog standard RW MAGAt/white nationalist types


see here for the anarcho POS

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100214252793#post8

cstanleytech

(26,291 posts)
13. Would you post the article link to where those photos are coming from please as it helps alot
Fri Oct 9, 2020, 04:25 AM
Oct 2020

when we are talking about something like this.

Response to cstanleytech (Reply #13)

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
10. And these are of course mutually exclusive things cause everyone knows the motto of the Right
Fri Oct 9, 2020, 02:23 AM
Oct 2020

is 'respect the government' ... no way any extreme right-winger would entertain the idea of attacking it.

That kid bombed the Fed Building in Oklahoma also couldn't have been a right-winger, for the same reason.



Coleman

(853 posts)
22. The right wants a government small enough to drown in a bathtub
Fri Oct 9, 2020, 09:55 AM
Oct 2020

Which is an anarchist goal"

Regulated capitalism v. free market capitalism
Laws protecting the most vulnerable v. everybody for themselves
Tax the rich v. no taxes on the rich

Kaleva

(36,301 posts)
11. Info on the Wolverine Watchmen group
Fri Oct 9, 2020, 04:13 AM
Oct 2020

"The affidavit says that authorities became aware in early 2020 that “groups of individuals in several states that were discussing a violent overthrow of government and law enforcement entities. These groups agreed to unite others in their cause and take violent action against government entities they believed to be violating the U.S. Constitution.”"

https://heavy.com/news/wolverine-watchmen-militia/

Anarchists don't give a rat's ass about the Constitution.

Celerity

(43,376 posts)
16. because only one is a so-called 'anarchist' (a RW one) see my various replies on this thread
Fri Oct 9, 2020, 05:39 AM
Oct 2020

the majority of these terrorists are bog standard Trumpian RWer types

the RW media is trying to gaslit the whole thing (as shown in my replies)

Kaleva

(36,301 posts)
12. Freeperville is full of these so-called Super Patriots
Fri Oct 9, 2020, 04:16 AM
Oct 2020

Who talk of the need to round up liberals and hanging us or of the upcoming CWII and how they are prepared to take to the streets in case Dems steal the election.

RockCreek

(739 posts)
18. There is a large intersection in the political circle
Fri Oct 9, 2020, 06:56 AM
Oct 2020

Where the extreme "left" and " right" meet, and become virtually indistinguishable.

EarthFirst

(2,900 posts)
19. Not surprising when the can not grasp that ANFTIFA is an ideology...
Fri Oct 9, 2020, 07:01 AM
Oct 2020

...not an organized structure with a tangible network of individuals.

Whereas the Proud Boys; militias & boogaloos are easily recognized and organized in an effort to establish membership...

Latest Discussions»General Discussion»Laura Ingraham claims the...