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NRaleighLiberal

(60,014 posts)
Fri Oct 9, 2020, 06:45 PM Oct 2020

NYT "Talk Radio Is Turning Millions of Americans Into Conservatives

The medium is at the heart of Trumpism

https://nyti.ms/2SFJqYc

At least 15 million Americans every week tune into one of the top 15 talk radio programs. They are not monolithically conservative, but they are overwhelmingly so. A dozen of the top 15 shows feature conservative or libertarian hosts — with devoted followings like Rush Limbaugh’s “Dittoheads” or Michael Savage’s “Savage Nation” — and only one leans left.

Talk radio may face an aging audience, a decline in ad revenue and competition from new mass media forms like podcasts, but there are still millions of Americans whose politics are shaped by what they listen to on talk radio all day, every day. Fox News gets more of the attention for shaping conservative opinion and for its influence on the Trump administration, but we shouldn’t overlook the power of conservative talk radio.

The conservatism of talk radio only partly overlaps with institutional conservatism, that of right-wing Washington think tanks, magazines and the Republican Party itself. By the early 2000s, it had embraced a version of conservatism that is less focused on free markets and small government and more focused on ethnonationalism and populism. It is, in short, the core of Trumpism — now and in the future, with or without a President Trump.

Talk radio’s power is rooted in the sheer volume of content being produced each week. The typical major talk radio show is produced every weekday and runs three hours, so just the top 15 shows are putting out around 45 hours of content every day. Even setting aside hundreds of additional local shows, the dedicated fan can listen to nothing but conservative talk radio all day, every day of the week, and never catch up.

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(this is an "of course it has...where have you been" op ed to me. it's called propaganda and brainwashing)

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NYT "Talk Radio Is Turning Millions of Americans Into Conservatives (Original Post) NRaleighLiberal Oct 2020 OP
It's not turning anyone 'conservative'. bullimiami Oct 2020 #1
Right, that term's been badly misused for a LONG time. elleng Oct 2020 #5
I posted it for its relevance...and agree it could have been done better NRaleighLiberal Oct 2020 #6
It's time we start using the terms "right wing" and "radical" Crunchy Frog Oct 2020 #25
What do you mean? It's turning them something because things are crazy out there. brush Oct 2020 #7
Conservatives embraced them when it gave them power... JHB Oct 2020 #18
"Constant propaganda makes people believe in evil" DBoon Oct 2020 #2
agreed NRaleighLiberal Oct 2020 #3
yup bdamomma Oct 2020 #29
Ironic you post this gay texan Oct 2020 #4
That's from the media consolidation misanthrope Oct 2020 #14
oh yeah gay texan Oct 2020 #22
the label "Conservative" just doesn't fit them anymore IcyPeas Oct 2020 #8
They're radical right wingers. Crunchy Frog Oct 2020 #26
It's not turning anybody anything. It's people seeking out what they want to hear. BusyBeingBest Oct 2020 #9
you clearly don't understand how propaganda and brainwashing works NRaleighLiberal Oct 2020 #12
That's an easier and more comfortable thing to believe. Crunchy Frog Oct 2020 #27
Yes. And it's all our service men and women were given to listen to while serving overseas judesedit Oct 2020 #10
We all like to talk about RW Police, but like to ignore the chunk of the military men who are rwnjs dustyscamp Oct 2020 #30
Radio is a dying medium. Loki Liesmith Oct 2020 #11
This! Dream Girl Oct 2020 #17
It's turning them into morons! Alacritous Crier Oct 2020 #13
Wife was a lots of driving software consultant. Subscribed to Air America soon as she could. IADEMO2004 Oct 2020 #15
Before it was "the core of Trumpism" it was the core of Republicanism... JHB Oct 2020 #16
Brainwashing them SheltieLover Oct 2020 #19
Like we haven't known this for years?!?!?! Upthevibe Oct 2020 #20
That and the Telecommunications Act. Crunchy Frog Oct 2020 #28
Call is Regressive radio RANDYWILDMAN Oct 2020 #21
Millions of ignorant white wing haters are responsible for talk radio. Hoyt Oct 2020 #23
I wish our party had gotten out in front on this a looong time ago. Crunchy Frog Oct 2020 #24

elleng

(130,908 posts)
5. Right, that term's been badly misused for a LONG time.
Fri Oct 9, 2020, 06:51 PM
Oct 2020

a: tending or disposed to maintain existing views, conditions, or institutions : TRADITIONAL
conservative policies
b: marked by moderation or caution
a conservative estimate
c: marked by or relating to traditional norms of taste, elegance, style, or manners

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/conservative

Crunchy Frog

(26,587 posts)
25. It's time we start using the terms "right wing" and "radical"
Fri Oct 9, 2020, 07:33 PM
Oct 2020

to describe today's Republicans. They use similar terms to describe us. In their usage to describe us, it's completely inaccurate. It would be totally accurate used to describe them.

Just another case where we're taking "the high ground" and ceding the narrative to them.

brush

(53,778 posts)
7. What do you mean? It's turning them something because things are crazy out there.
Fri Oct 9, 2020, 06:53 PM
Oct 2020

Thugs are trying to kidnap governors, refusing to wear lifesaving masks, suppressing votes and blindly following a mad man stupid enough to get covid because he took his own advise not to wear a mask in a virus infected nation.

JHB

(37,160 posts)
18. Conservatives embraced them when it gave them power...
Fri Oct 9, 2020, 07:15 PM
Oct 2020

...so don't let them disengage now that the hellbeast they fed has gotten loose.

Let the foamers define "conservatism", and categorize the "real" conservatives for what they truly are: useful idiots who helped destructive forces take power.

gay texan

(2,448 posts)
4. Ironic you post this
Fri Oct 9, 2020, 06:51 PM
Oct 2020

So, i have an classic vehicle. I've restored its original Delco AM radio. Working on the night shift, i drive home about 4 in the morning. On the ride home I've been listening to AM radio. It's absolutely staggering how many stations pump out the same bullshit across the dial.

IcyPeas

(21,871 posts)
8. the label "Conservative" just doesn't fit them anymore
Fri Oct 9, 2020, 06:56 PM
Oct 2020

a lot of them aren't conservative, they are downright wackos and racists and conspiracy theory believers.

BusyBeingBest

(8,052 posts)
9. It's not turning anybody anything. It's people seeking out what they want to hear.
Fri Oct 9, 2020, 06:57 PM
Oct 2020

They want to hear someone jabber their own RW beliefs back at them and thus validate them. This is their medium, they can have it.

Crunchy Frog

(26,587 posts)
27. That's an easier and more comfortable thing to believe.
Fri Oct 9, 2020, 07:40 PM
Oct 2020

They wouldn't have put so much resources into this kind of propaganda if it wasn't effective. But it's much easier to just brush it off and dismiss it than it is to take it seriously.

If you've never watched "The Brainwashing of my Dad" you really should.

judesedit

(4,438 posts)
10. Yes. And it's all our service men and women were given to listen to while serving overseas
Fri Oct 9, 2020, 06:59 PM
Oct 2020

Our military was given access to Air America for a very short while if I recall correctly. They've been being brainwashed for decades.

Loki Liesmith

(4,602 posts)
11. Radio is a dying medium.
Fri Oct 9, 2020, 07:00 PM
Oct 2020

This is not new and talk radio is past its glory days. Everyone it was going to convert has already been converted.

IADEMO2004

(5,554 posts)
15. Wife was a lots of driving software consultant. Subscribed to Air America soon as she could.
Fri Oct 9, 2020, 07:09 PM
Oct 2020

Hate radio everywhere add some Jesus radio Pop Country and NPR..... slim pickings in the Midwest.

JHB

(37,160 posts)
16. Before it was "the core of Trumpism" it was the core of Republicanism...
Fri Oct 9, 2020, 07:12 PM
Oct 2020

...and that's because "Trumpism" isn't a real thing, it's merely a continuation of four decades to Republican grievance politics that "institutional" conservatives and "both sides"-media people (i.e., people who should have seen this coming a long time ago) have slapped a term onto to wash their hands of their own blindness and culpability.

The Republicans have been on this precise trajectory since Rush rallied Republicans to full-on resistance to Bill Clinton after Poppy Bush lost to him. (And moving sharply in this general direction for even longer.) Lost, in part, because foamers like Rush crucified him for being a weak approximation of an actual fiscal conservative for going back on his "read my lips" pledge.

Think Republicans being afraid of Donald's tweets is anything new? It's just a continuation of how any Republican who disputed Rush or even just downplayed his importance was on his show within 48 hours trying out for the Olympic back-pedaling team. "Oh, no, Rush, I never said anything like that. The lying liberal media took my words out of context, just like you always say. You're a swell guy!"

Upthevibe

(8,051 posts)
20. Like we haven't known this for years?!?!?!
Fri Oct 9, 2020, 07:20 PM
Oct 2020

...Of course it's propaganda and brainwashing, and it's been going on since at least 1988 when Rush's show started.

....And this happened because of the elimination of The fairness doctrine in 1987.

"The Fairness Doctrine introduced in 1949, was a policy that required the holders of broadcast licenses to both present controversial issues of public importance and to do so in a manner that was—in the FCC's view—honest, equitable, and balanced. The FCC eliminated the policy in 1987.

I won't get into my rant regarding my belief that the elimination of this policy has been a major contributing factor that got us to where we are now.

RANDYWILDMAN

(2,672 posts)
21. Call is Regressive radio
Fri Oct 9, 2020, 07:21 PM
Oct 2020

So the drones who follow it know what it really is.

All about going back to when everything was white and great and etc and etc and stupid and women and brown people couldn't vote or live in their neighborhood.

Crunchy Frog

(26,587 posts)
24. I wish our party had gotten out in front on this a looong time ago.
Fri Oct 9, 2020, 07:27 PM
Oct 2020

It's so entrenched now that I don't know if it can even be addressed.

Maybe if we go through a Rwanda type situation people will finally recognize its toxicity.

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