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Finally trump's doctor comes out and says trump tested negative. Why couldn't he say that in the (Original Post) still_one Oct 2020 OP
Took them that long to convince Conley to lie? Nevilledog Oct 2020 #1
I don't think he is lying, I think he is a piss poor communicator still_one Oct 2020 #3
How come his signature didn't show up on the last few memos? It was there for the early ones. Nevilledog Oct 2020 #4
I just read the headline essentially. Frankly I don't care what happens to that piece of garbage in still_one Oct 2020 #7
I don't believe anything those freaks claim. JenniferJuniper Oct 2020 #2
They are liars . ... Iliyah Oct 2020 #5
That's out of step with every Covid patient's timeline Greybnk48 Oct 2020 #6
Since they didn't tell us when he last tested negative before he tested positive, it implies he was still_one Oct 2020 #8
It's from the crappy Abbott quick test with all the false readings soothsayer Oct 2020 #9
It's in there - Ms. Toad Oct 2020 #25
Exactly what probably happened! unitedwethrive Oct 2020 #26
Not a PCR test EleanorR Oct 2020 #10
It is a PCR test, it is the antigen test by Abbott I believe still_one Oct 2020 #11
Those are two different tests EleanorR Oct 2020 #14
The Polymerase chain reaction(PCR) test is extremely accurate still_one Oct 2020 #17
Yes but he had the antigen test EleanorR Oct 2020 #20
I wonder if he tested Abbott until he got 'false' negative AlexSFCA Oct 2020 #23
lol still_one Oct 2020 #28
Read near the end - Ms. Toad Oct 2020 #27
That is exactly right Ms. and they won't tell us how many cycles it took still_one Oct 2020 #29
Guess who owns and distributes this test? ananda Oct 2020 #35
Without no credibility to speak of, does it really matter what he says? crickets Oct 2020 #12
+++ still_one Oct 2020 #13
That's my thought Ahpook Oct 2020 #33
Uhhh if..fish..had..wings Oct 2020 #15
Because he didn't. Ms. Toad Oct 2020 #30
I don't believe anything out of this white house. Demsrule86 Oct 2020 #16
Cuz he is negative all the time? imanamerican63 Oct 2020 #18
WHICH consecutive days? Rorey Oct 2020 #19
Right ?! Red Don et al are military spec word smiths, every word they speak is forked uponit7771 Oct 2020 #22
My daughter tried to pull that crap when she was a teenager Rorey Oct 2020 #34
They used the horrible Abbott test uponit7771 Oct 2020 #21
That antigen test worked so well ahead of the Rose Garden superspreader event Ms. Toad Oct 2020 #24
Actually there are reports that he wasn't tested everyday, so he might not have even been tested still_one Oct 2020 #31
I don't believe a word that doctor says. cwydro Oct 2020 #32
The Abbott antigen test has a false negative rate of 25-30%. GeorgeGist Oct 2020 #36
If he is still on any treatment BainsBane Oct 2020 #37
I will not now nor will I ever believe a word issued from this worthless puppet. Hugin Oct 2020 #38

Nevilledog

(51,197 posts)
4. How come his signature didn't show up on the last few memos? It was there for the early ones.
Mon Oct 12, 2020, 06:48 PM
Oct 2020

I just don't trust anything they say.

still_one

(92,394 posts)
7. I just read the headline essentially. Frankly I don't care what happens to that piece of garbage in
Mon Oct 12, 2020, 06:52 PM
Oct 2020

the WH, but there is no doubt Conley doesn’t have a lot of credibility

still_one

(92,394 posts)
8. Since they didn't tell us when he last tested negative before he tested positive, it implies he was
Mon Oct 12, 2020, 06:55 PM
Oct 2020

infecting people before he started showing symptoms


soothsayer

(38,601 posts)
9. It's from the crappy Abbott quick test with all the false readings
Mon Oct 12, 2020, 06:56 PM
Oct 2020

They probably tested him over and over until it threw a negative.

Let’s see a gold standard test please.

Ms. Toad

(34,087 posts)
25. It's in there -
Mon Oct 12, 2020, 07:30 PM
Oct 2020

He's still positive - just below the viral load and PCR cycle thresholds.

That's what the later part of the paragraph tells me.

Ms. Toad

(34,087 posts)
27. Read near the end -
Mon Oct 12, 2020, 07:31 PM
Oct 2020

that gibberish about viral load, PCR cycle, etc. means he is still positive on real tests. They just believe he is not positive enough to infect people.

crickets

(25,983 posts)
12. Without no credibility to speak of, does it really matter what he says?
Mon Oct 12, 2020, 07:00 PM
Oct 2020

Best reply: "Show us the long form test."

Ahpook

(2,751 posts)
33. That's my thought
Mon Oct 12, 2020, 07:45 PM
Oct 2020

The whole gaggle of assholes are proven liars. We shouldn't let them keep us confused and demoralized.

Treat all of them like the walking plague they are and vote their sorry asses out next month. The rest will go back under their rock.

Fuck em!

15. Uhhh
Mon Oct 12, 2020, 07:06 PM
Oct 2020

"... I can share with you that he has tested NEGATIVE, on consecutive days, using the Abbot BinaxNOW antigen card."

When were these consecutive tests done? You don't say that they have anything to do with the President's current condition.

"It is important to note that this test was not used in isolation for the determination of the President's current negative status."

This test cannot refer to the consecutive tests and must refer to the Abbot BinaxNOW test itself.

"Repeatedly negative antigen tests, taken in context with additional clinical and laboratory data, including viral load, subgenomic RNA, and PCR cycle threshold measurements, as well as ongoing assessment of viral culture data, all indicate a lack of detectable viral replication."

Yes, they do. But is this the situation for the President? Or just, again, in general were this the case these would all indicate a lack.

I'm not quite sure that this is very convincing. How about "The President tested negative MULTIPLE times in the LAST FEW DAYS"?

Ms. Toad

(34,087 posts)
30. Because he didn't.
Mon Oct 12, 2020, 07:33 PM
Oct 2020

He ONLY tested negative on the antigen tests. He still tests positive on the PCR test. He is still carrying a viral load. They are just below imaginary thresholds his keepers like to say will keep the rest of us safe.

Rorey

(8,445 posts)
19. WHICH consecutive days?
Mon Oct 12, 2020, 07:09 PM
Oct 2020

Those consecutive days could have been in September for all we know. Conley has already lost all credibility, so I wouldn't have much confidence in what he says.

That being said, I really don't care if OrangeAss tested negative or even if he's supposedly immune. He's still endangering MANY, MANY people by his failure to lead.

Ms. Toad

(34,087 posts)
24. That antigen test worked so well ahead of the Rose Garden superspreader event
Mon Oct 12, 2020, 07:28 PM
Oct 2020

They are trotting it out to see if it can be used to create more superspreader events.

The rest of the gibberish at the end of the announcement confirms that he is still positive on the PCR test, but they are hiding it in obfuscating language.

still_one

(92,394 posts)
31. Actually there are reports that he wasn't tested everyday, so he might not have even been tested
Mon Oct 12, 2020, 07:35 PM
Oct 2020

The question to be asked, show us his chart, which they won’t do


GeorgeGist

(25,323 posts)
36. The Abbott antigen test has a false negative rate of 25-30%.
Mon Oct 12, 2020, 09:22 PM
Oct 2020

Given Trump's ignorance of how science works, he probably ordered Dr. Conley to have the test repeated until negative.

Rinse, repeat on day 2.

Voila he's clear of virus.

Hugin

(33,198 posts)
38. I will not now nor will I ever believe a word issued from this worthless puppet.
Mon Oct 12, 2020, 09:49 PM
Oct 2020

Everything about Trump needs to be cleared with a truly non-partisan and independent source.

On paper.

In triplicate.

Signed in Trump's blood.

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