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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsFinally trump's doctor comes out and says trump tested negative. Why couldn't he say that in the
first place?
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/520680-trump-tests-negative-for-covid-19-on-consecutive-days-doctor-says
Nevilledog
(51,197 posts)still_one
(92,394 posts)Nevilledog
(51,197 posts)I just don't trust anything they say.
still_one
(92,394 posts)the WH, but there is no doubt Conley doesnt have a lot of credibility
JenniferJuniper
(4,515 posts)Iliyah
(25,111 posts)I have no confidence regarding Dr. Conley.
"First do no harm"
Greybnk48
(10,176 posts)Ive seen. Theyre lying.
still_one
(92,394 posts)infecting people before he started showing symptoms
soothsayer
(38,601 posts)They probably tested him over and over until it threw a negative.
Lets see a gold standard test please.
Ms. Toad
(34,087 posts)He's still positive - just below the viral load and PCR cycle thresholds.
That's what the later part of the paragraph tells me.
unitedwethrive
(1,997 posts)I was just going to post the same thing.
EleanorR
(2,395 posts)still_one
(92,394 posts)EleanorR
(2,395 posts)Antigen tests are prone to false negatives.
still_one
(92,394 posts)EleanorR
(2,395 posts)Not the PCR.
AlexSFCA
(6,139 posts)and thats the one being reported.
Ms. Toad
(34,087 posts)that gibberish about viral load, PCR cycle, etc. means he is still positive on real tests. They just believe he is not positive enough to infect people.
still_one
(92,394 posts)ananda
(28,876 posts)And guess how long its been on the market?
crickets
(25,983 posts)Best reply: "Show us the long form test."
Ahpook
(2,751 posts)The whole gaggle of assholes are proven liars. We shouldn't let them keep us confused and demoralized.
Treat all of them like the walking plague they are and vote their sorry asses out next month. The rest will go back under their rock.
Fuck em!
if..fish..had..wings
(666 posts)"... I can share with you that he has tested NEGATIVE, on consecutive days, using the Abbot BinaxNOW antigen card."
When were these consecutive tests done? You don't say that they have anything to do with the President's current condition.
"It is important to note that this test was not used in isolation for the determination of the President's current negative status."
This test cannot refer to the consecutive tests and must refer to the Abbot BinaxNOW test itself.
"Repeatedly negative antigen tests, taken in context with additional clinical and laboratory data, including viral load, subgenomic RNA, and PCR cycle threshold measurements, as well as ongoing assessment of viral culture data, all indicate a lack of detectable viral replication."
Yes, they do. But is this the situation for the President? Or just, again, in general were this the case these would all indicate a lack.
I'm not quite sure that this is very convincing. How about "The President tested negative MULTIPLE times in the LAST FEW DAYS"?
Ms. Toad
(34,087 posts)He ONLY tested negative on the antigen tests. He still tests positive on the PCR test. He is still carrying a viral load. They are just below imaginary thresholds his keepers like to say will keep the rest of us safe.
Demsrule86
(68,667 posts)imanamerican63
(13,812 posts)Everything he(Trump) says is negatively false!
Rorey
(8,445 posts)Those consecutive days could have been in September for all we know. Conley has already lost all credibility, so I wouldn't have much confidence in what he says.
That being said, I really don't care if OrangeAss tested negative or even if he's supposedly immune. He's still endangering MANY, MANY people by his failure to lead.
uponit7771
(90,364 posts)Rorey
(8,445 posts)I became a very good lie detector.
uponit7771
(90,364 posts)Ms. Toad
(34,087 posts)They are trotting it out to see if it can be used to create more superspreader events.
The rest of the gibberish at the end of the announcement confirms that he is still positive on the PCR test, but they are hiding it in obfuscating language.
still_one
(92,394 posts)The question to be asked, show us his chart, which they wont do
cwydro
(51,308 posts)Nor anyone near the buffoon.
GeorgeGist
(25,323 posts)Given Trump's ignorance of how science works, he probably ordered Dr. Conley to have the test repeated until negative.
Rinse, repeat on day 2.
Voila he's clear of virus.
BainsBane
(53,066 posts)the test is meaningless because the drugs suppress the virus.
Hugin
(33,198 posts)Everything about Trump needs to be cleared with a truly non-partisan and independent source.
On paper.
In triplicate.
Signed in Trump's blood.