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Eliminate lifetime appointments (Original Post) superpatriotman Oct 2020 OP
Requires a constitutional amendment onenote Oct 2020 #1
Agreed. No one should have a lifetime job. blueinredohio Oct 2020 #2
That would require a change to the Constitution, dware Oct 2020 #3
This message was self-deleted by its author Freelancer Oct 2020 #5
No. Adding to the court can be done by legislation onenote Oct 2020 #6
This message was self-deleted by its author Freelancer Oct 2020 #7
Nope. onenote Oct 2020 #10
This message was self-deleted by its author Freelancer Oct 2020 #11
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An amendment isn't happening. onenote Oct 2020 #8
This message was self-deleted by its author Freelancer Oct 2020 #9
It would only harden the rights resolve against term limits onenote Oct 2020 #14
This message was self-deleted by its author Freelancer Oct 2020 #15
Not really. onenote Oct 2020 #18
This message was self-deleted by its author Freelancer Oct 2020 #20
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The problem is that "we" aren't enough brooklynite Oct 2020 #12
Bullshit. Anti-democratic bullshit. Codeine Oct 2020 #13
This message was self-deleted by its author Freelancer Oct 2020 #16
Winning elections means winning at every level. Codeine Oct 2020 #17

dware

(12,449 posts)
3. That would require a change to the Constitution,
Tue Oct 13, 2020, 09:07 AM
Oct 2020

you would need 2/3rds of the Congress and 3/4ths of the states to ratify any change to the Constitution, so, 13 states can nullify any change to the Constitution.

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onenote

(42,778 posts)
10. Nope.
Tue Oct 13, 2020, 09:18 AM
Oct 2020

It failed for several reasons, starting with the refusal of the Chair of the Senate Judiciary committee to move the bill, a change in the Courts thinking on New Deal legislation and the death and replacement of one of the Justices.

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onenote

(42,778 posts)
14. It would only harden the rights resolve against term limits
Tue Oct 13, 2020, 09:27 AM
Oct 2020

Assume Thomas leaves the Court and is replaced by Biden. The court would still have a 5/4 conservative majority. While term limits would force Breyer off the court first, Biden would replace him with another liberal so the balance would stay at 5/4. But the next two impacted by term limits would be Roberts and Alito and there is no way Republican states would support giving Biden a shot at replacing them and thereby creating a liberal majority on the Court.

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onenote

(42,778 posts)
18. Not really.
Tue Oct 13, 2020, 10:12 AM
Oct 2020

Under your scenario, Biden gets to replace Alito and Thomas, giving the Court a 5-4 liberal majority. Term limits would give Biden an opportunity to turn that into a 6-3 majority (and to replace Breyer with a much younger Justice).

The reality is that it takes bipartisan support to amend the constitution and Republicans will never support term limits if it will give a Democratic president more opportunities to name Justices and, similarly, Democrats would never support term limits if it will give a Republican president more opportunities to name justices.

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brooklynite

(94,757 posts)
12. The problem is that "we" aren't enough
Tue Oct 13, 2020, 09:20 AM
Oct 2020

The average voter doesn't have an opinion on lifetime appointments at all, much less opposition to it.

 

Codeine

(25,586 posts)
13. Bullshit. Anti-democratic bullshit.
Tue Oct 13, 2020, 09:24 AM
Oct 2020

Term limits exist for all elected offices — they’re called elections. If people wish to be represented by the same people then that is their right.

And a Constitutional Amendment ain’t happening, so the judicial branch will continue as before. Don’t like it? Win elections.

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Codeine

(25,586 posts)
17. Winning elections means winning at every level.
Tue Oct 13, 2020, 09:59 AM
Oct 2020

Democratic voters have the distressing having of not voting during midterms and not worrying about down-ballot races. If we can’t get our shit together enough to win then we can’t expect to control the courts.

Term limits are a Know-Nothing answer to a non-problem.

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