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Boogiemack

(1,406 posts)
Thu Oct 15, 2020, 02:48 PM Oct 2020

Why is there no outrage all over Congress about the GOP refusing to obey a court order?

The CA court ordered a cease and desist order about the unauthorized ballot boxes and the GOP just says they will not remove them and are just going to add more WTF??

Don't even worry, Dems, about taking heat for expanding the SCOTUS. Play by the same rule the GOP plays by. Pass the damn law to expand SCOTUS and Lower Federal Courts. FIGHT.

The GOP and Trump have ignored legitimate law all over the place, teaching citizens that it is ok to disobey the law. I can hardly wait until a Biden administration gets in office and begins to enforce the laws.

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Why is there no outrage all over Congress about the GOP refusing to obey a court order? (Original Post) Boogiemack Oct 2020 OP
Congress controls state laws? nt sweetloukillbot Oct 2020 #1
i think it's the CA GOP barbtries Oct 2020 #8
Send in the marshals & lock them up dlk Oct 2020 #2
Strictly a state issue, not a federal one beachbumbob Oct 2020 #3
Send in the sheriff... dlk Oct 2020 #4
A sledge hammer works on metal cabinets. Miigwech Oct 2020 #5
There is no court order (there should be but there isnt) Statistical Oct 2020 #6
"California allows Republican ballot boxes with safeguards" FBaggins Oct 2020 #9
Local Repubs have learned from their fearless leader. And, patricia92243 Oct 2020 #7

dlk

(11,339 posts)
2. Send in the marshals & lock them up
Thu Oct 15, 2020, 02:50 PM
Oct 2020

The GOP gave up on the rule of law decades ago. (Except for the other guy, of course.)

Statistical

(19,264 posts)
6. There is no court order (there should be but there isnt)
Thu Oct 15, 2020, 03:08 PM
Oct 2020

The state of CA issued a cease and desist that isn't a court order. A cease and desist is simply a letter saying unless you stop WE WILL TAKE YOU TO COURT. Note the future tense as in the court isn't even involved yet. Someone saying we won't comply with a cease and desist is saying "ok then we will see you in court.". You can issue a cease and desist to anyone you want for anything. That person than can either comply or wait for you to take them to court. A court order is issued by a judge after hearing arguments I don't believe that has happened yet.

I have no idea why the state of CA if softballing this. They give them a cease and desist instead of just suing them to force the issue. Then they gave them until midnight tonight to comply (4 days after they learned about it). The cease and desist only says they will CONSIDER legal actions if the boxes aren't removed by midnight.

The state 'could' have sued them the same day, sought a temporary injunction to remove the boxes pending the trial. The judge could have ordered that given the potential damage and the fact that trials take a while. The temporary injunction wouldn't mean the judge has reached a final verdict yet just that the GOP would have to take down the boxes until the trial is over. THAT would be a court order and take effect immediately and a judge could throw people in jail for contempt if they don't comply. None of that has happened. None of that will even start to happen until Monday at the earliest.

FBaggins

(26,595 posts)
9. "California allows Republican ballot boxes with safeguards"
Fri Oct 16, 2020, 07:05 PM
Oct 2020
California officials lowered the temperature Friday in their legal standoff with the California Republican Party over its unauthorized ballot boxes, saying the party had committed to enough changes for now to satisfy their concerns.

Secretary of State Alex Padilla, a Democrat, said the state GOP had agreed to “no longer deploy these unstaffed, unsecured and unofficial ballot drop boxes.” The practice had drawn national interest as the major parties jockey for seats in California congressional battlegrounds that Democrats won in the 2018 midterms — and as Republicans continue to attack the state's election system.

In an earlier response to Padilla, the California Republican Party said it would continue to accept mail ballots at boxes but promised some safeguards: The boxes will be attended to whenever the public has access to them, and ballots will be secured and then delivered to elections officials within the required 72-hour frame, the party said. The party pledged to not represent those boxes as “official,” saying a volunteer had done so in error, while arguing that the process was legal due to a 2018 law that loosened collection requirements.

https://www.politico.com/states/california/story/2020/10/16/california-allows-republican-ballot-boxes-with-safeguards-1326076

patricia92243

(12,580 posts)
7. Local Repubs have learned from their fearless leader. And,
Thu Oct 15, 2020, 03:13 PM
Oct 2020

sadly, he is right. Break the law and nothing will be done about it - if you are big and important enough.

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