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Baitball Blogger

(46,703 posts)
Sun Oct 18, 2020, 09:43 AM Oct 2020

Trump is going out with a whimper, not a bang. My prediction.

I've seen it so many times in the tribal behavior in my local community. They are tough talking when they outnumber you. If they think their group has their back, it's constant bravado, bullying and bullshit. But the moment they are singled out, everything changes. That's when they resort to the, "You can't kick me when I'm down." strategy.

And here, it's resorting to your kindness, mercy and sympathy in a hope for forgiveness and forgetfulness, in return for nothing at all. That's when you hear about someone in their family who is sick, or even terminally ill. "My husband has cancer." Or there is some other life challenge that they are dealing with, "I have six kids to put through college." Or they have back problems or some other medical issue. And this is where it gets alarming, because they walk down the street, lame, dejected or holding their backs like it's a Woe is Me parade. And it's not the walking that's the problem. It's their street too. They're entitled. But, it's the timing. They would appear when I am out in the front yard gardening, which isn't often. It's hard not to think that it's an incredible coincidence.

Maybe I fell for these ploys in the early years, when I was younger and still abiding by rules of civility that worked in the country I was born in. The problem is, they do it so often that you finally can't ignore that they're not really remorseful. It's all just a game to them. And then you realize that you and your family are not immune to the same human experiences, and yet, you manage to make it through the day without conspiring in the same ways they do.

So, I take these local experiences and I can predict that when Trump realizes that it's over for him, he's going to do the same thing. He is going to break with his usual brash, crass behavior and resort to the "You can't kick me when I'm down" strategy. Expect some family medical issue to surface and a last ditch effort to pull the sympathy strings of the nation.

One last bit of advice: Don't fall for it.

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Trump is going out with a whimper, not a bang. My prediction. (Original Post) Baitball Blogger Oct 2020 OP
I think many will read this and BootinUp Oct 2020 #1
Since conservative tribalism is a real thing, we should teach our children to prepare Baitball Blogger Oct 2020 #3
Trump has already begged True Blue American Oct 2020 #6
I was referring to a more personal/local experience, but BootinUp Oct 2020 #7
I know and True Blue American Oct 2020 #16
the fight must go on. nt BootinUp Oct 2020 #18
You've captured the behavior very well MaryMagdaline Oct 2020 #2
Thank you. It's sad, in a way, to know that I've turned into the old woman on the hill, Baitball Blogger Oct 2020 #4
And if you fall for that trick, they'll laugh at you behind your back dalton99a Oct 2020 #5
YES!!!! Baitball Blogger Oct 2020 #8
Mobsters do this stuff right before their trials or sentencings Wicked Blue Oct 2020 #9
At least we don't have to worry about Trump walking in in full military uniform, Baitball Blogger Oct 2020 #10
He might limp into court on crutches Wicked Blue Oct 2020 #13
Who could forget Harvey Weinstein rolling into court in a wheelchair? dlk Oct 2020 #42
And likewise, when Trump loses and he & his family are subjected to criminal process Mr. Ected Oct 2020 #11
+1 Baitball Blogger Oct 2020 #14
i don't care how he goes out - whimper or bang - i just want him gone & prosecuted onetexan Oct 2020 #12
Maybe but I think tRump is more insane than jimlup Oct 2020 #15
2 months of a Trump crony crime spree... lame54 Oct 2020 #52
I agree. He will be very busy trying to plan how to deal with the coming lawsuits, he will move on Happyhippychick Oct 2020 #17
One concern I have that Trump will cause more trouble is Putin Silent3 Oct 2020 #19
Every day that Putin waits for his October surprise, the more evident that something Baitball Blogger Oct 2020 #20
Yes, I can see that happening with Trump PatSeg Oct 2020 #21
Yes, we'll know soon enough. Baitball Blogger Oct 2020 #22
With someone like Trump PatSeg Oct 2020 #23
+1 Baitball Blogger Oct 2020 #24
Remember, VP Cheney attended Obama's Inauguration in a wheelchair... Wounded Bear Oct 2020 #25
It was NOTHING BUT a ploy for sympathy. AND distraction. calimary Oct 2020 #51
Made me think of this TimeToGo Oct 2020 #26
Thank you for posting this, very apt cp Oct 2020 #53
So, which countries don't have extradition back to the United States? gab13by13 Oct 2020 #27
May our leaders be unmerciful in governance and policy bucolic_frolic Oct 2020 #28
No doubt. He never ever stands up when shoved. He's going and he'll be whimpering. marble falls Oct 2020 #29
Propaganda 101 Roy Rolling Oct 2020 #30
Yup. That's another strategy. Nicely written. Baitball Blogger Oct 2020 #43
If we can get our next office holders to see that blueinredohio Oct 2020 #31
As elected Republicans start abandoning him, I want to see him go feral on them. tanyev Oct 2020 #32
He's already doing that. Look what he did to De Santis. Baitball Blogger Oct 2020 #44
If he is blackmailing some of them, it could get very interesting. tanyev Oct 2020 #49
One thing is for sure...He's much more weaker, frail, sicker, unconfident & possesses a Illumination Oct 2020 #33
Descriptions needn't be made. Trump is just plain evil and he needs to be rejected by the nation. Eyeball_Kid Oct 2020 #35
I agree with your conclusion, but have questions about how you got there. Nonetheless.. Eyeball_Kid Oct 2020 #34
One of the things that will convince him, is when his inside group begins to slough off. Baitball Blogger Oct 2020 #45
Actually, he has plenty of convictions. Fozzledick Oct 2020 #54
rim-shot GopherGal Oct 2020 #56
I agree with you. yardwork Oct 2020 #36
He's probably already negotiated a $500mill contract with comcast for his own show by now. nt yaesu Oct 2020 #37
To be broadcast from Dubai. My Pet Orangutan Oct 2020 #39
He can try -- but "My whole family is going to jail !" isn't going to provoke much sympathy. nt eppur_se_muova Oct 2020 #38
Someday , Webster's Dictionary will have under the Word " CON MAN" yuiyoshida Oct 2020 #40
I'd like him to go out with a whimper Harker Oct 2020 #41
Gave my life on a Silver Platter for America.... Tiger8 Oct 2020 #46
One of my worst trump triggers is .... PutGramaOnThePhone Oct 2020 #47
I think he will try to scadaddle Javaman Oct 2020 #48
YES! Cozmo Oct 2020 #50
Stick a fork in Donny Blue Owl Oct 2020 #55

Baitball Blogger

(46,703 posts)
3. Since conservative tribalism is a real thing, we should teach our children to prepare
Sun Oct 18, 2020, 09:49 AM
Oct 2020

for it. We are so far away from Mayberry.

BootinUp

(47,143 posts)
7. I was referring to a more personal/local experience, but
Sun Oct 18, 2020, 09:56 AM
Oct 2020

i almost added that getting from POTUS directly was new.

True Blue American

(17,984 posts)
16. I know and
Sun Oct 18, 2020, 10:05 AM
Oct 2020

Appreciate it. I just saw a video of him begging women.

Really think his steroid high is wearing off. He called Michigan Minnesota, Matt Gaetz Rick Gates, etc.

Baitball Blogger

(46,703 posts)
4. Thank you. It's sad, in a way, to know that I've turned into the old woman on the hill,
Sun Oct 18, 2020, 09:51 AM
Oct 2020

that shows very little compassion. It comes from a lifetime of observations,

dalton99a

(81,468 posts)
5. And if you fall for that trick, they'll laugh at you behind your back
Sun Oct 18, 2020, 09:52 AM
Oct 2020

and think you're stupid and weak

Sympathy must be earned and deserved. Evil people deserve punishment, not sympathy.

Baitball Blogger

(46,703 posts)
8. YES!!!!
Sun Oct 18, 2020, 09:57 AM
Oct 2020

Forgot that part. And sometimes in your face. I was driving out once with my husband in the passenger side and I drove by one of the main good ole boys that played a major role in the deconstruction of our community. He was on a double date because the two wives were in the backseat and his buddy was in the passenger side. He pointed at me while I drove by and his buddy looked at me and they both laughed hard as we passed each other.

Wicked Blue

(5,832 posts)
9. Mobsters do this stuff right before their trials or sentencings
Sun Oct 18, 2020, 09:57 AM
Oct 2020

They get rolled into court in wheelchairs, and claim they have terminal cancer or heart disease.
And since the orange traitor has hung out with some unsavory characters in real estate and casino dealings, ya never know.

Baitball Blogger

(46,703 posts)
10. At least we don't have to worry about Trump walking in in full military uniform,
Sun Oct 18, 2020, 10:00 AM
Oct 2020

the way Oliver North did. What a disgrace.

dlk

(11,561 posts)
42. Who could forget Harvey Weinstein rolling into court in a wheelchair?
Sun Oct 18, 2020, 12:03 PM
Oct 2020

Manipulating connivers can be counted on to manipulate and connive every time.

Mr. Ected

(9,670 posts)
11. And likewise, when Trump loses and he & his family are subjected to criminal process
Sun Oct 18, 2020, 10:00 AM
Oct 2020

Don't allow him or the media to create a martyr or to flip the script on the prosecutors and victimize the criminal perpetrators.

You know it's bound to happen. We should contemplate pre-emptive actions to nullify it.

Baitball Blogger

(46,703 posts)
14. +1
Sun Oct 18, 2020, 10:02 AM
Oct 2020

We'll probably have to wait and see how effective his gamed Supreme Court justices work out for him, before he starts to grovel.

jimlup

(7,968 posts)
15. Maybe but I think tRump is more insane than
Sun Oct 18, 2020, 10:04 AM
Oct 2020

the average republican bully. I think he will cry, yes but, also claim it was "unfair" and "rigged."

If he can manage a legal challenge he will. If the vote is so overwhelming that no legal challenge could possible help him I think he'll try and burn the place down as he departs. His final act will either be to pardon himself or to resign and have his puppy Pence pardon him.

He might make vague references to armed resistance which could really insight the other insane drueling gun totting idiots. They will be squashed because they are a small minority of less than law abiding citizens but it could get pretty ugly.

Happyhippychick

(8,379 posts)
17. I agree. He will be very busy trying to plan how to deal with the coming lawsuits, he will move on
Sun Oct 18, 2020, 10:08 AM
Oct 2020

because he knows what is coming

Silent3

(15,210 posts)
19. One concern I have that Trump will cause more trouble is Putin
Sun Oct 18, 2020, 10:11 AM
Oct 2020

Putin might throw Trump a lifeline, but only in exchange for causing maximum chaos on the way out of office.

Baitball Blogger

(46,703 posts)
20. Every day that Putin waits for his October surprise, the more evident that something
Sun Oct 18, 2020, 10:15 AM
Oct 2020

quirky is actually an intelligence operation.

PatSeg

(47,419 posts)
21. Yes, I can see that happening with Trump
Sun Oct 18, 2020, 10:16 AM
Oct 2020

Though with him, I am not entirely sure. He appears to be increasingly erratic and unstable, so his behavior isn't always predictable. He is inclined to use unpredictability as a tactic, but now I think its also a sign of a mental breakdown and possibly dementia. I have pictured him exiting the stage with a whimper, appealing for sympathy, but I have also imagined the violent cornered rat scenario.

We'll know soon enough.

Baitball Blogger

(46,703 posts)
22. Yes, we'll know soon enough.
Sun Oct 18, 2020, 10:30 AM
Oct 2020

I have to believe that Trump will soon learn the incapacitating weight of depression. I hope it makes him feel paralyzed. Only if the meds give him the feeling of energy do I expect him to lash out in anger.

And I expect that he is being watched to make sure that he doesn't do something rash.

PatSeg

(47,419 posts)
23. With someone like Trump
Sun Oct 18, 2020, 10:50 AM
Oct 2020

the antidote for depression seems to be lashing out at his perceived enemies, probably accompanied by meds. I think it energizes and uplifts him to be mean and vindictive. I can also see him becoming overwhelmed and incapacitated by depression to the point where he can't bounce back, but self-preservation is so dominant in him I'm not sure.

Oh yes, I do hope there are people keeping a watch on him, especially after he loses. He'll have almost three months to retaliate.

Wounded Bear

(58,648 posts)
25. Remember, VP Cheney attended Obama's Inauguration in a wheelchair...
Sun Oct 18, 2020, 11:12 AM
Oct 2020


Eventually, members of the "tough love" crowd need a dose of their own medicine.

calimary

(81,231 posts)
51. It was NOTHING BUT a ploy for sympathy. AND distraction.
Sun Oct 18, 2020, 12:44 PM
Oct 2020

Oh look! Poor Dick Cheney - in a wheelchair.

My ass he needed a wheelchair. Good grief, my dad did shit like that during his own “end times”. For sympathy, and to shut us up if we had any inconvenient questions. It was so damn hard to offer any sympathy when he kept sneaking donuts LONG after his doctors told him to lay off the sugar, while late-onset diabetes was running away with him.

Painful and discouraging for the rest of us to have to deal with. He would NOT obey his doctors. And whenever he didn’t like some doctor’s pronouncements, his solution was to find another doctor.

I understand trump. I totally get him. I grew up with an itty-bitty, minor-league version of him. Just as imperious and despotic and always hungry for fawning and flattery, but WAY minor-league by comparison. He did have better hair, though. Much better. A whole headful, natural and nothing surgically enhanced. And he kept it til he drew his last breath.

TimeToGo

(1,366 posts)
26. Made me think of this
Sun Oct 18, 2020, 11:16 AM
Oct 2020

Some of your comments in your post made me think of this video:

Your Job in Germany

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cp

(6,626 posts)
53. Thank you for posting this, very apt
Sun Oct 18, 2020, 12:53 PM
Oct 2020

All Republicans and Dumpy Cult will have to PROVE themselves and make amends.

Roy Rolling

(6,915 posts)
30. Propaganda 101
Sun Oct 18, 2020, 11:28 AM
Oct 2020

In 2015 when Trump began his campaign, there was a sudden turn. After months of getting criticism for being a racist, bigot, and intellectual idiot, Trump started saying “they are criticizing YOU, my followers”.

He created victims out of his followers, he made them responsible for his statements, acts of treason, and immorality. The media and world were criticizing them, when they criticized Trump.

It’s a mundane branding tactic and it worked. Now, 40% of Americans are proud to be idiots like Trump, because they are offended at the criticism of being attached to the hip for everything Trump does.

tanyev

(42,552 posts)
32. As elected Republicans start abandoning him, I want to see him go feral on them.
Sun Oct 18, 2020, 11:38 AM
Oct 2020

Maybe that’s just me.

Baitball Blogger

(46,703 posts)
44. He's already doing that. Look what he did to De Santis.
Sun Oct 18, 2020, 12:08 PM
Oct 2020

I would laugh, but knowing how off the reservation these people are willing to go in order to get their way, it makes me nervous.

tanyev

(42,552 posts)
49. If he is blackmailing some of them, it could get very interesting.
Sun Oct 18, 2020, 12:17 PM
Oct 2020

They would probably be the ones who stay inexplicably loyal to him all the way down.

 

Illumination

(2,458 posts)
33. One thing is for sure...He's much more weaker, frail, sicker, unconfident & possesses a
Sun Oct 18, 2020, 11:43 AM
Oct 2020

significant cognitive decline since 2016! Also, NO: class, dignity, ethics, morals, knowledge, credibility, self control, legitimacy. He's useless...

Eyeball_Kid

(7,431 posts)
34. I agree with your conclusion, but have questions about how you got there. Nonetheless..
Sun Oct 18, 2020, 11:43 AM
Oct 2020

We need only look at Trumpy-Boy's life-long behavior pattern to come to a similar conclusion. Trump has ALWAYS run for the exits when the heat is on and accountability is approaching. He won't contest the election if defeat is assured because he doesn't have the courage to fight for his convictions. Why? Because he has no convictions. He only knows what's expedient. He only knows what will save his ass from wholesale defeat, and running away from conflict is a maneuver that lessens the totality of loss. Trump has settled numerous court cases against him when the evidence points to a decision against his financial interests, even when he's adamantly insisted that he will NEVER settle. That's only a position he takes, not a conviction. Of course he settles. Of course he backs down. He'll never fight the dragon; he'll always retreat. And that's what he'll do this time around, all of his bravado notwithstanding.

Fozzledick

(3,860 posts)
54. Actually, he has plenty of convictions.
Sun Oct 18, 2020, 02:19 PM
Oct 2020

He's just always been able to get off with just fines and no jail time.

yardwork

(61,599 posts)
36. I agree with you.
Sun Oct 18, 2020, 11:48 AM
Oct 2020

Trump has failed over and over again in his life, and each time he gave up. He folds. His bankruptcies, his divorces, his business failures. He blusters, threatens, sues and folds.

Over and over. He never admits that he lost. He lies and reframes and moves on to the next con.

If he loses, I predict he'll bluster and sue and cause drama, and then in January he will leave the White House headed for the next con. He will reframe it as a victory, something he always intended.

yuiyoshida

(41,831 posts)
40. Someday , Webster's Dictionary will have under the Word " CON MAN"
Sun Oct 18, 2020, 12:00 PM
Oct 2020

a Photo of Donald J. Trump.... no one will remember P. T. Barnum after this century....

 

Tiger8

(432 posts)
46. Gave my life on a Silver Platter for America....
Sun Oct 18, 2020, 12:11 PM
Oct 2020

I made America great again and didn't even take a salary, and this is thanks I get?

I came into office a successful self made billionaire....and China, the Liberals, the Media and the Deep State all conspired to bring me down, bankrupt my hotels, and ruin not only me, but my entire beautiful family.

Can you donate to my legal defense fund, please?

PutGramaOnThePhone

(236 posts)
47. One of my worst trump triggers is ....
Sun Oct 18, 2020, 12:15 PM
Oct 2020

him whining about fairness. Thanks to him and others, the words “fair”, and “fairness” have lost all positive connotations for me. We know trump’s case for being human is long lost. I’m at a place where I have to suggest - open letter like, or in person when I can - that in order not to reveal oneself as a disingenuous whiner (and maybe also a classic whining bully) one should elaborate a bit, maybe saying a little something about compassion and justice.

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