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https://www.twitch.tv/aocShe is talking about voting right now while playing Among Us - a social game where players try to find two murderous imposters among their group while they perform tasks on a space station.
ETA: If a streamer has over 5,000 or more concurrent viewers, it is a popular stream. Streams that exceed 20K viewers are massively popular and usually have a long history of streaming to build up a fan base. AOC is now over 350K viewers and climbing for her initial stream.
The stream seems to have peaked at 430K current viewers. For comparison, the most watched Twitch stream ever featured Ninja (quite possibly the most popular streamer in the world) and the singer Drake when they attracted 600K viewers while playing Fortnite. Rep. Ilhan Omar also participated in the stream with Rep. Ocasio-Cortez. By all accounts, this initial stream was enormously popular and successful.
ETA Again: During the stream, she commented at least twice how it was absurd that the space station used a gasoline combustion engine and there were candles and cobwebs in the place.
FM123
(10,054 posts)I just let my kids know - they are in their twenties and Twitch is like their mother ship!
brush
(53,845 posts)to get rid of trump?
Sympthsical
(9,111 posts)People who probably arent watching 60 Minutes.
LonePirate
(13,431 posts)Where else can she speak to so many people at one time?
melman
(7,681 posts)vercetti2021
(10,156 posts)You'd be surprised how many people use twitch
Crunchy Frog
(26,630 posts)I guess GOTV activities are a dumb waste of time now?
brush
(53,845 posts)fundraising, canvassing with masksdirect contact with voters we know works. We're getting down to the wire.
Crunchy Frog
(26,630 posts)You can be upset about it if you want to.
brush
(53,845 posts)earlier in the campaign to see if it generates an uptick in voters. We know other methods work.
LonePirate
(13,431 posts)I don't think she could have reached that many people in the same timeframe with a phone bank or door-to-door canvassing.
brush
(53,845 posts)We're down to the wire now.
melman
(7,681 posts)That doesn't make any sense at all. You are just looking for any way to make this positive thing negative.
brush
(53,845 posts)She has 400,000 viewers and she talked about the importance of voting and making a plan etc.
That's the method. Outreach. Getting people to watch and listen.
brush
(53,845 posts)I'll try to remember that.
melman
(7,681 posts)Let's hear it.
Response to melman (Reply #22)
Act_of_Reparation This message was self-deleted by its author.
George II
(67,782 posts)lol
George II
(67,782 posts)Amazon-owned Twitch has rolled out its premium Twitch Prime service globally, launching the service in more than 200 countries and territories.
Twitch Prime first launched in October last year, offering ad-free Twitch viewing and other perks to subscribers of Amazon Prime and Prime Video.
The new global launch extends the service outside of the US, UK, Canada, Germany, Austria, France, Belgium, Italy and Spain
It's also very interesting that it's owned by Amazon!!!! I wonder if their server is in Long Island City? Now THAT is "lol"-worthy.
Who said it was funny?
George II
(67,782 posts)melman
(7,681 posts)You didn't know that?
George II
(67,782 posts)melman
(7,681 posts)George II
(67,782 posts)melman
(7,681 posts)George II
(67,782 posts)Surprise me.
melman
(7,681 posts)Don't you worry about that.
George II
(67,782 posts)melman
(7,681 posts)George II
(67,782 posts)PTWB
(4,131 posts)It makes for inappropriate exchanges when they're not familiar with the laughing out loud usage.
Example:
"I just heard you lost your father. LOL"
George II
(67,782 posts)Appropriate that you step in here with the first game of the World Series being played tonight. But the NL team is the home team, no designated hitter.
PTWB
(4,131 posts)The Biden ad? It was amazing.
Lots of Love is very common for geriatrics who are not internet savvy.
George II
(67,782 posts)BTW, I'm "geriatric", most of my friends and relatives are "geriatrics". Not a single one has ever used "lol" to mean "lots of love".
PTWB
(4,131 posts)I assumed that you were referencing the Biden ad (which I saw earlier on here and was amazing) - supposedly it aired first during the world series. Otherwise I'm not sure what the reference to the world series is.
George II
(67,782 posts)I guess I don't know why you brought up the world series, then. You should watch the Biden ad though. It is incredible.
R B Garr
(16,975 posts)thread where someone copied his mothers text with her inappropriate LOL at someones demise. Her son explained to her that LOL means Laughing out Loud.
LOL also doesnt mean Lots of Laundry or Lots of Lemons or Lots of Love. It means Lots of Laughter. Similarly, ROFL doesnt mean Rolling on the Floor Loving. It means Rolling on the Floor Laughing.
BainsBane
(53,066 posts)It need not be exclusively US registered voters to have an impact. 1) In some states they can still register. 2) the goal for Democrats is to get people to the polls. How on earth could anyone object to that? Who cares who is doing the event? Seriously. I don't care if it's AOC, Manchin, Bernie, or John Kasich. I don't care if I hate their guts. I don't care what the format is. If they are encouraging people to vote for Biden, they are contributing. That's something, particularly considering how few Democrats actually volunteer to GOTV at all.
George II
(67,782 posts)....and trolls in general. Robert Mueller's report detailed campaigns by the Russians and even Ukrainians who flooded sites like Facebook.
I seriously doubt there were a "half million" voters or potential voters.
PTWB
(4,131 posts)Oh god
George II
(67,782 posts)PTWB
(4,131 posts)Tell me, oh knowledgeable one, what does a Russian troll have to gain by watching AOCs GOTV stream for 2 hours?
Next youll be arguing that theyre tuning into the debates en masse in order to... what? Add a couple tenths to the ratings?
George II
(67,782 posts)Curious that when a logical, sensible discussion doesn't go the way some want it to, it becomes "lol", , , and
Oh God!
PTWB
(4,131 posts)Im not sure what portion of this discussion you mistakenly assumed hasnt gone the way some want it to. I think it is going great!!
It seems like youre genuinely not familiar with the platform and based on your previous comments Ill try to make an analogy that will help you understand.
Imagine some universe where youre able to fit half a million people into a space the size of a shoe box. Now imagine those half million people yelling, cheering and talking all at the same time in that tiny little space. If you can imagine that youll have some idea of what it would be like trying to have some sort of meaningful interaction with twitch chat at this level.
Changing subjects... I just saw Melman post that ONE video of this event is already at nearly 5 million views. Amazing!!!
Goooo AOC!!!
George II
(67,782 posts)The lol was for your obsessive need to trash this Democratic congresswoman no matter what she does.
Not your "logical sensible discussion"
lol
George II
(67,782 posts)BainsBane
(53,066 posts)Seriously? So what? I spent two hours making calls last night and reached 2 Biden voters, one of whom hung up on me. Should no one make GOTV calls because the lists include Trump supporters, and assholes? Campaigns organize GOTV events for a reason.
PTWB
(4,131 posts)Ive put more than a few hours in this cycle volunteering for our local Democratic state representative. Shes great. She unseated a 5 term Republican incumbent (barely) in 2018 and Id really like to see her win again.
We all do what we can and spend our time where we think it will have the most impact. I just dont understand the knee jerk reaction some feel to dismiss this GOTV effort because they dont like AOC personally.
Shes using a platform to try to turn out votes for Joe and down ballot Democrats. What the hell is there to complain about?? Honestly...
BainsBane
(53,066 posts)Of a virtual sort. Certainly no less so than the texts.
You might as well say the fundraisers with Clinton, Obama, etc. don't work. Or the volunteer GOTV event they did last weekend with Stacey Abrams because it was virtual. If they are so useless, why does the campaign organize them? How about rallies? Are they useless because there isn't one to one contact?
I fail to see the problem with this event. Even if it only reaches a few voters, isn't it worth it? I seriously don't understand how anyone can object to someone trying to turn out the vote, regardless of who that person is.
fishwax
(29,149 posts)You can think of it as similar to GOTV concerts and rallies and so on, just in a different format ... a format that is as natural a part of daily life for tons of voters in their late teens and twenties as watching television is for older generations.
PTWB
(4,131 posts)Primarily the demographic we need to turn out this election. What the heck could she be doing better than this?
Robocalls? 😂
brush
(53,845 posts)people registered and out to vote. Sanders used to have massive rallies but not many who came out voted. Many were there to enjoy the spectacle.
Earlier in the campaign a way to gauge if this video game generated an uptick in register voters and early voters maybe could've been figure out. I don't know, call me crazy but it's all about knowing if the effort is worth the time.
PTWB
(4,131 posts)It is a 2 hour event...
brush
(53,845 posts)How is that being measured? Wouldn't you like to know if it moves the needdle?
PTWB
(4,131 posts)But at 10 PM on a Tuesday I can't think of a better way for her to reach 400k - 500k young people. Voting and encouraging voting has been a frequent topic during the stream.
Act_of_Reparation
(9,116 posts)Nobody is buying this "it needs to be tested" claptrap.
Statistical
(19,264 posts)It is a 2 hour event. She has decided to stop all other activities for the next 14 days straight. Two hours.
We get it though it is terribly concerning for you. You should talk to your Dr they might have medication that helps with your anxiety on how a junior Congressman spends two hours of her personal time.
George II
(67,782 posts)PTWB
(4,131 posts)How many will be after this stream? Who knows?
Can you think of a better way to reach nearly half a million people on a Tuesday night at 10 PM? People of the exact demographic that we need to turn out?
George II
(67,782 posts)BTW, "people" aren't a "demographic". Have any details on the demographics of those half a million people?
PTWB
(4,131 posts)I'm sure if we get really drunk and cut a few logical corners we can convince ourselves that an incredibly popular young Democratic politician engaging with half a million young people, while encouraging them to vote, is actually a bad thing.
George II
(67,782 posts)...I don't care about "voters" in Canada, Europe, China, Russia, or elsewhere.
PTWB
(4,131 posts)I mean really, why would Americans watch an incredibly popular American politician play a game incredibly popular with American young people while discussing voting in the upcoming American elections?
It must be Chinese folks watching this stream by the hundreds of thousands. That makes sense.
George II
(67,782 posts)PTWB
(4,131 posts)All these hundreds of thousands of people aren't worth AOC's time. She's foolish for talking to them about healthcare and the environment. Why on earth is she encouraging young people to vote? They never do!
Heck, some of the nearly half a million viewers might not even be Americans. Some that are Americans might not even be registered Democrats yet! Why on earth would she try to engage with them by participating in an activity they can relate to? What could we possibly gain by trying to engage nearly half a million young people?
We ought not even try.
LonePirate
(13,431 posts)It was the middle of the night in Europe and western Russia. I suspect most viewers in Asia don't know who AOC is and if any tuned it, it was simply because she was the top listed live Twitch stream. Some Australians may have watched since the stream was in English.
That leaves the western hemisphere. One of her teammates was a Canadian streamer so I am sure some Canadians were watching. Were some viewers from Central and South America? Quite possibly. Still, given the time of day (US prime time) and AOC's fame which is mostly restricted to the US (how many foreigners care about a new US congressional representative not in a position of power?), I suspect a majority of her viewers tonight were Americans.
Now, I suppose a point could be made that the majority of her viewers might not be Americans of voting age as Twitch skews remarkably younger than television, radio, newspapers, Facebook and Twitter. Still, I would guess at least 100K voting age Americans watched some of her stream and that number could easily be much higher. That's some massive voter outreach by any measure.
PTWB
(4,131 posts)I edited the post to add the sarcasm tag.
I agree with you completely. There is no way the vast majority are anything but Americans. Some aren't, sure, but she personally has nearly half a million viewers. The fact that hundreds of thousands of people are watching AOC on her own channel indicates that the vast majority are going to be Americans.
The other streamers (a couple of them are Canadian) have their own viewers, for example:
Disguised Toast: 22 thousand viewers
pokimane: 78 thousand viewers
gus: 10 thousand viewers
Lupo: 25 thousand viewers
fishwax
(29,149 posts)"Can you think of a better way to reach nearly half a million people on a Tuesday night at 10 PM? People of the exact demographic that we need to turn out? "
PTWB
(4,131 posts)Some of them supported a radical right wing politician who switched parties to try to primary AOC just because AOC said nice things about Bernie.
I am incredibly happy that AOC (and Ilhan Omar!) are engaging with young folks in a way that they understand while talking about and encouraging them to vote. There simply is no way to paint this as a negative thing despite some folks' best efforts.
fishwax
(29,149 posts)It's been great outreach and, frankly, a lot of fun too. I've been listening off and on. AOC and Ilhan, as well as several of the twitch personalities they're playing with have talked about the importance of voting and having a voting plan, etc. One of the other players is from Wales, apparently, and so they had a discussion about health care in other countries vs. the United States that was interesting. And AOC also stressed that, even if some of the viewers aren't able to vote they could still talk to voters that they know about the importance of a voting plan, etc. It's been fun and, I have no doubt, productive.
Trumpocalypse
(6,143 posts)There are a small group of AOC haters who will criticize anything she does. If she were to rescue a baby from a burning building they would slam her for leaving the kids stroller behind.
BannonsLiver
(16,448 posts)But this is actually a great idea. Twitch is popular with the younger folks. Its the perfect platform for voter engagement and I applaud her for doing it.
brush
(53,845 posts)could've gauged whether it generated an uptick in voter registration that leads to actual voting. Frankly, voter engagement doesn't mean anything if there's no follow through.
We're in the home stretch trying to get rid of the worse president ever.
BannonsLiver
(16,448 posts)Here again, this is where she needs to be. Everyone has a role to play. Stuff like this is hers.
demmiblue
(36,885 posts)Lol... go AOC.
brush
(53,845 posts)It's two weeks to go. We know other methods work. How do we know if it moves the needle. Call me crazy for asking.
demmiblue
(36,885 posts)brush
(53,845 posts)etc. for both Obama campaigns, for Hillary and now zoom phone banking for Biden because of covid. I like to know what works. If this works, good, but maybe figuring out if it does earlier than two weeks before trying to get rid of the worst president ever doesn't seem crazy to me.
demmiblue
(36,885 posts)It is so weird, really.
brush
(53,845 posts)Violet_Crumble
(35,977 posts)Or is that somehow different? Wait till the ones who fear time is being wasted on non-Americans being communicated with learn about this one! And when they finally understand that anything any candidate does on the internet and social media reaches an audience that isn't solely US citizens who are registered to vote!!
With the US presidential election taking place in a few weeks, both of the candidates campaigns have taken to the trail to grab voters attention in the last stretch before Election Day on November 3. Notably, the presidential campaign for Democratic nominee and former Vice President Joe Biden has brought their campaign to the world of Animal Crossing: New Horizons on Nintendo Switch. If youre looking to spend some time with Joe and see what the campaign has been up to in Animal Crossing, you can now see for yourself with a tour of the Biden-Harris HQs official island.
https://www.dualshockers.com/animal-crossing-joe-biden-official-campaign-island/
Renew Deal
(81,871 posts)Al Gross needs the votes. Why does she even bother sleeping?
Skittles
(153,193 posts)and who is to say it has not been tested? Maybe that is why she is doing it.
Le Roi de Pot
(744 posts)It terrifies the Republicans
LymphocyteLover
(5,654 posts)ismnotwasm
(42,008 posts)I should check this out
fishwax
(29,149 posts)In the game that just ended, Ilhan and AOC were the impostors together.
I think it's a great bit of outreach on AOC's part.
MustLoveBeagles
(11,634 posts)Man I feel old. Every little bit helps. Kudos to AOC for doing this.
Dave Starsky
(5,914 posts)There is a tremendous number of young people who are fully engaged with this. I trust that she knows how to work the social media on this, because she has been masterful at it.
Renew Deal
(81,871 posts)LymphocyteLover
(5,654 posts)very fun vibe and she has a lot of fans. Ilhan Omar was playing too.
Renew Deal
(81,871 posts)BainsBane
(53,066 posts)How can a GOTV activity generate so much controversy? What does it matter if you like her? It's all hands on deck.
A small group of virulent AOC bashers do it to most every thread that involves her ever since she came onto the stage. It is bizarre and divisive AF that they continue on with it, no matter what she does. For true lulz, go back and look at the 2020 Dem House primaries threads, where some in the anti-AOC beehive supported or pushed, then moved (after that flavour of the week failed) onto the next great 'beat AOC' hope, such as the radical anti LGBTQ bigot Fernando Cabrera, who is linked to a hate group (that finally did him in here), or a ghost candidate, Jose Velazquez, who other than filing and seting up a one page shell website, never did a thing (yet was touted for months as a decent bet to dump AOC out), and then, at the end, settling on the Republican plant, the centre right stalking horse in Dem clothing, Michelle Caruso-Cabrera, who was thankfully crushed, but who is running as a sour grapes spoiler in the general (and will have zero effect).
Act_of_Reparation
(9,116 posts)Just venturing a guess.
whttevrr
(2,345 posts)She was talking to someone with National Health Care and was speaking on how difficult it was to conceive of going to the doctor without concern for payment.
Her closing message was vote, vote, vote. And, if you can't vote ask someone else what their plan was to vote. Don't just ask them if they are going to vote, but ask them what their plan was.
Well done, and fun.
LonePirate
(13,431 posts)Plenty of them even watched with their kids. If only a fraction of the kids who watched nudge their parents into voting, it will have been time well spent.
whttevrr
(2,345 posts)and got them to talk to their parents about voting.
How cool is that?
R B Garr
(16,975 posts)Vote for Democrats.
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)PTWB
(4,131 posts)We do know some demographic information about Twitch viewership in general - 55% are in the 18 - 34 demographic.
Anecdotally, this particular game is very popular among adults. Most folks I know are playing it - its a great way to socialize with friends remotely during COVID. My circle of friends is 30 - 50 yoa with relatively diverse backgrounds including tech, education, medical, law, government and business. Everyone is on this thing.
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)PTWB
(4,131 posts)AOC (and Ilhan Omar, who was also a participant) spoke frequently about the importance of voting. They talked about the need to make a plan to vote if this is your first time voting. They encouraged young people to help others make a plan to vote. They talked progressive issues like healthcare and the environment and the importance of voting for Joe.
430,000 tuned in to watch AOC play a popular video game and talk about voting.
Another 100,000+ watched the streams of the folks who she was playing with and got to hear her talk about voting and progressive issues.
And those are just the people who watched live. The folks she was playing with are quite popular in their own right - combined, their subscribers are nearly 10 million. Those folks are going to put out videos of the event and those videos will be seen by millions.
Pretty good for 10pm on a Tuesday, if you ask me.
melman
(7,681 posts)"Since the live version ended and the video was posted on Twitch, Ocasio-Cortez's stream went on to garner some 4.7 million views total."
https://abcnews.go.com/Technology/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-twitch-stream-encouraging-people-vote/story?id=73734695
PTWB
(4,131 posts)R B Garr
(16,975 posts)Vote for Democrats.
WhiskeyGrinder
(22,431 posts)Trumpocalypse
(6,143 posts)If she walked on water they would attack her for not knowing how to swim.
Crunchy Frog
(26,630 posts)This is the most hilariously absurd thread that I've seen here in a really long time, and that's saying something.
Are people just grasping for pearls to clutch at right now? Do some people simply not have enough to worry about as it is?
Baffled, but amused.
crickets
(25,983 posts)I am not the biggest AOC fan in the world. She is so energetic and her heart is obviously in the right place, but there are times when I just :cringe: and think, "oo, you really do need a little more time, experience, and seasoning there." Then there are other times she just crushes it. She is obviously intelligent and highly motivated; it's amazing what she can get done. In other words, nobody's perfect and nobody can please everyone all the time, but you can tell when someone is trying hard and usually doing a pretty good job.
Last night, AOC really hit it out of the park. What started as an offhand tweet conversation swiftly got her set up with streaming equipment and training, a Twitch channel and lobby complete with custom graphics, a group of well known gamers and a fellow congress critter (Ilhan Omar) willing to play, and some practice games the night before so she could competently play this particular game. That happened in 24 hours, and she still took care of her day job.
Think about it: with all the teleworking and home schooling going on right now, getting the equipment at all was the first hurdle. Gamers helped her get it done, set it up, and learn to use it. Now, it's obvious she is already a gamer and has likely played online, but playing online and streaming online are two entirely different things, and after a little hesitance getting going (no more than I've seen from people who game/stream for a living - stuff happens) she was just pro. You would never know she hadn't streamed before. That alone was impressive. She was sitting in a room by herself. There was no one in the background helping her; it was all AOC. She maintained excellent composure while using a somewhat unfamiliar tech setup, playing a game she barely knew, with people she barely knew, and made it look easy.
Before the game started, she spent a good twenty minutes or so with chat and lurkers (raises hand) alike about making sure to vote, and to do that by having a plan to vote. In between games, players often end up hanging around in the game 'lobby' with some down time, and while it didn't come up every time, AOC used many of those moments to talk about voting. The chat was well moderated, and messages about voting (whether spontaneous or planned was unclear, probably both) constantly scrolled through all night.
The point is, it wasn't just game night with a 'vote!' tagline. Someone with weeks of lead time couldn't have done a better job. Her staff (and/or the gamers who helped her) must be so detail-oriented. The home page was spiffed with graphics links for all of AOC's social media sites, main web site, as well as voting info sites, and a post of the all important rules -- something that a less than net savvy staff might have forgotten. They remembered to get moderators for chat and found people who did a great job. At one point there was a bit of MAGA agitation and spamming, but no truly rude stuff made it through as far as I could tell. I hid chat during game play anyway.
The people playing with her came prepared to talk about voting as well, and it was obvious she found gamers (hasanabi in particular) who are politically aware and prepared to talk about politics and voting without it sounding forced or contrived. In fact, my only complaint about the whole night was that it was difficult to track down some of the other players, players well known to many but not to me until now. I did find pokimane and hasanabi, and loaded three tabs with their channels as well as AOC's so I could flip among them and watch the game from different perspectives. That only lasted about half an hour and then I couldn't keep them synched any more, even with two channels muted, but it was fun to do it that way for a while. I need to learn to pop out mini-windows to do that better next time, but whatever.
Kudos to Twitch. It was amazing that, with very little notice, they handled a crowd of over half a million people showing up to watch spread over the various channels. I though we'd crash at least once, and I did get a little lag at the peak of over 400,000 in AOC's channel. At one point I swapped from another channel back to AOC and found I'd lost her, but a tab reload quickly fixed it.
I'm not a millennial. I'm a boomer gamer. We're out there. I'm in my late fifties, female, and I've been video gaming since arcades were a thing and since computers became and stayed a thing. :waves cane: I love playing video games, I love watching other people playing them, and I cannot remember the last time I had that much fun watching online gaming. It was superb, went off without a hitch, and I stayed up way too late watching the gang continue playing after AOC and Ilhan Omar left. I found some new gamers to follow, whee!
Videos are available on her channel as well as Ilhan Omar's if you missed and want to watch it, and I highly recommend wandering over to take a look.
https://www.twitch.tv/aoc
https://www.twitch.tv/ilhan
Regardless of what you may think about AOC, regardless of what you may think about gaming, this event was a big deal, and I have no doubt that it made an important impact. Just the buzz about the event has made an impact. I'm convinced it not only worked to get out the vote, it opened up a whole new arena for reaching voters, younger voters in particular, in their own space and without talking down to them. Remember, "there are other times she just crushes it." This was one of those times.
Outstanding!
Arazi
(6,829 posts)AOC crushed this. Anyone slamming this is so off base - she may just get the younger voters out there. Win win
crickets
(25,983 posts)I saw tweets from parents with kids too young to vote but who love gaming and were watching, and those kids got their parents to watch with them. Cool!