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Thu Oct 22, 2020, 09:45 PM

Kristen Welker

for President Biden's press secretary

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Enterstageleft Oct 2020 OP
VarryOn Oct 2020 #1
left-of-center2012 Oct 2020 #2
Enterstageleft Oct 2020 #5
luv2fly Oct 2020 #8
JI7 Oct 2020 #3
relayerbob Oct 2020 #4
Enterstageleft Oct 2020 #7
relayerbob Oct 2020 #9
Enterstageleft Oct 2020 #12
relayerbob Oct 2020 #17
hamsterjill Oct 2020 #14
relayerbob Oct 2020 #19
hamsterjill Oct 2020 #20
cwydro Oct 2020 #24
StarfishSaver Oct 2020 #28
Throck Oct 2020 #6
BainsBane Oct 2020 #10
Wounded Bear Oct 2020 #11
nolabear Oct 2020 #13
hamsterjill Oct 2020 #15
relayerbob Oct 2020 #18
nolabear Oct 2020 #21
moonscape Oct 2020 #22
hamsterjill Oct 2020 #23
relayerbob Oct 2020 #26
hamsterjill Oct 2020 #27
relayerbob Oct 2020 #29
jcgoldie Oct 2020 #30
hamsterjill Oct 2020 #31
jcgoldie Oct 2020 #32
hamsterjill Oct 2020 #33
obamanut2012 Oct 2020 #25
Raine Oct 2020 #16

Response to Enterstageleft (Original post)

Thu Oct 22, 2020, 09:46 PM

1. Great idea! Nt

 

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Response to left-of-center2012 (Reply #2)

Thu Oct 22, 2020, 09:48 PM

5. you try to cut off that asshole...

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Response to Enterstageleft (Reply #5)

Thu Oct 22, 2020, 10:12 PM

8. Exactly

I thought she stood her ground best she could in a lousy situation.

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Response to Enterstageleft (Original post)

Thu Oct 22, 2020, 09:47 PM

3. No

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Response to Enterstageleft (Original post)

Thu Oct 22, 2020, 09:48 PM

4. God no

She folded every time Trump pointed at her. His intimidation attacks worked perfectly. She let Trump get way more air time to lie, than Biden had to respond to those lies

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Response to relayerbob (Reply #4)

Thu Oct 22, 2020, 10:11 PM

7. Who would you recommend...

My thoughts were she did an excellent job without being overly political.

I felt she was fair & allowed both debaters to respond, but didn't allow it to get out of control.

Please tell me why I'm wrong.

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Response to Enterstageleft (Reply #7)

Thu Oct 22, 2020, 10:56 PM

9. Biden didn't get time to respond to a huge number of attacks

nor was he given time to call Trump's lies out. Trump would go on and on, and then with Biden, it was "OK, Moving on" after a few sentences, because she knew he would comply. Even then trump would often barge in, point at her (his pre-deate attack strategy worked great, she was very intimidated) and just keep talking. That is not in control, IMO.

As far as who I would recommend ... I recommend ... WIN FIRST, EVEYTHING ELSE LATER

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Response to relayerbob (Reply #9)

Thu Oct 22, 2020, 11:20 PM

12. We saw things differently

When you are dealing with someone who won't acquiesce to the rules you agreed to, you do the best you can in the time constraints you have.

She would do very well against right-wing reporters during press conferences.

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Response to Enterstageleft (Reply #12)

Thu Oct 22, 2020, 11:31 PM

17. That suggests they didn't know what he was going to do

and as if Pence didn't do the *exact same thing*

This isn't a press conference, she and NBC should have been bettwe prepared for how to deal with his inability to shut up. Either be more aggressive with the mute button or simply ignore him. Or, simply hold a watch in your hand and give the opposition equal time. If Trump goes 5 minutes, then Biden is given 5 minutes. This shit is too important to let a schoolyard bully abuse the process. His pre-debate intimidation attacks worked great.

Fortunately, it appears most people saw through that, based on polls and twitter. But still, IMO, she was not any more effective than Wallace, Trump was simply more restrained. If he had gone off like that, she would never have said anything after the first five minutes.

I've not seen her before that I can recall, but I am not impressed

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Response to relayerbob (Reply #4)

Thu Oct 22, 2020, 11:26 PM

14. Yes, I agree with you.

I donít think she did a good job. She let Trump run the time.

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Response to hamsterjill (Reply #14)

Thu Oct 22, 2020, 11:33 PM

19. I'm interested to see the speaking time comparisons

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Response to relayerbob (Reply #19)

Thu Oct 22, 2020, 11:35 PM

20. Yes that will be telling

Did Trump actually have more time or did it just seem that way? I think he did.

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Response to relayerbob (Reply #4)

Fri Oct 23, 2020, 08:41 AM

24. She's getting compliments all over the web and msm today.

I didnít watch it all, but thought she did a fantastic job.

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Response to relayerbob (Reply #4)

Fri Oct 23, 2020, 10:57 AM

28. I think she was outstanding

 

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Response to Enterstageleft (Original post)

Thu Oct 22, 2020, 09:56 PM

6. Is it wrong to lust?

Those eyes. So dreamy.

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Response to Enterstageleft (Original post)

Thu Oct 22, 2020, 10:56 PM

10. Why?

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Response to Enterstageleft (Original post)

Thu Oct 22, 2020, 10:58 PM

11. Meh...Joe has some good comm peeps on his staff...

no need to recruit some reporter. That's a Trump move.

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Response to Enterstageleft (Original post)

Thu Oct 22, 2020, 11:22 PM

13. I'm surprised how many DUers didn't like her.

Good Lord, she had an insanely hard job, to corral that idiot and try to actually get some info out. I thought she did better than any of the others.

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Response to nolabear (Reply #13)

Thu Oct 22, 2020, 11:29 PM

15. I honestly thought she was horrible.

I understand that she had a hard job to do but I felt like she caved to Trump. She should have admonished him, at least, that his mike would be turned off as had been agreed.

I did think her questions were good ones.

Itís interesting that there is a difference of opinion. But great that we can still disagree civilly.

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Response to hamsterjill (Reply #15)

Thu Oct 22, 2020, 11:32 PM

18. Agreed on all points

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Response to hamsterjill (Reply #15)

Fri Oct 23, 2020, 12:05 AM

21. Yes, it is.

One odd and interesting fact was Spankyís sucking up to her..But I donít think she controlled the mics. I believe the debate commission did. Who that really is I donít know.

It was a thankless job. Thatís for sure.

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Response to hamsterjill (Reply #15)

Fri Oct 23, 2020, 12:09 AM

22. O,, only for the 2 min each had at

the beginning of each category was it agreed mics would be muted. She had no control over that.

I thought she did great.

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Response to moonscape (Reply #22)

Fri Oct 23, 2020, 08:39 AM

23. I didn't say she had control.

I said she should have admonished Trump with that.

She never once said anything to him about talking too long.

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Response to hamsterjill (Reply #23)

Fri Oct 23, 2020, 10:19 AM

26. Honestly, I've given up

People seem to want to think because Trump wasn't utterly insane that somehow she was in control. She wasn't. I agree with you, she never admonished him for the contintued talking, she gave in almost every time he pointed or glared at her and said no, (they didn't show her, but I'll bet each time he did that, she looked down and wouldn't look him in the eye) and she didn't afford Biden equal time to respond to the BS. Not impressed with her, nor NBC - they gave Trump a pass two weeks in a row. Fortunately, he is his own worst enemy, so it worked out, but not because she was a great moderator.

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Response to relayerbob (Reply #26)

Fri Oct 23, 2020, 10:53 AM

27. Thanks for your response.

Itís just a difference of opinion between DUíers. But I donít like being berated by some for not falling in line with the popular opinion. My opinion is just as valid (and no more so) than anyone elseís here.

She wasnít good and almost everything Iíve read elsewhere substantiates THAT as the popular opinion other than what Iíve seen on DU.

I appreciate your supportive post. At least there are no more debates and I seriously doubt that Ms. Walker would be considered for the post of Bidenís press secretary (as suggested in another thread) so itís OVER.

Have yourself a great day and stay in touch on DU. We are probably like minded on other subjects, as well.

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Response to hamsterjill (Reply #27)

Fri Oct 23, 2020, 11:31 AM

29. Agreed

Yes, we all have our opinions. I like that about DU. I've been berated on FB far worse over this, than I was here, by people I know well. It surprised me, TBH. But then, most people don't really see the underlying psychology of what Trump was trying to do.

That Trump chose not to act psychotic in no way suggests it was due to her controlling the debate or flow of the evening. He dominated and controlled the entire event, using classic male dominance tactics. Remember when he started meeting foreingn leaders and he wouldn't let go of their hands when shaking? That's what that was, also (I'm sure you know this). One leader, I think the head of Spain, stopped that behavior by gripping Trump's hand so hard he winced and actually started to bend his knees, as the guy wouldn't let go, and gripped him painfully while smiling, looking him right in the eye and telling him how great it was to meet him ... for a good 15 seconds or more. Trump stopped doing that after that happened. That's how one treats a bully. His pointing at her and saying no, and her stopping almost every time (she got a bit better later in the debate) was classic and worked as we wanted it to. I would be interested to see her physical reactions, my guess is she looked down, broke eye contact and only glanced back at him during those moments.

Yes, I'm glad this is almost over, and am also glad the votes are pretty much locked in (based on post debate polls), that this wasn't the first debate and that Trump isn't as credible as, say, Reagan.

And finally, I think I've seen your posts on here before, and agreed with them, so you are probably correct in that regard, so I agree, stay in touch! Have a good weekend, and keep fighting the good fight!!

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Response to hamsterjill (Reply #27)

Fri Oct 23, 2020, 11:37 AM

30. Shes been lauded almost universally for the job she did last night

Its not realistic to expect a hyperpartisan in that position. She kept the responses on topic as much as possible with trump refusing to answer questions. Folks saying she let Trump run her over seem to have watched a different debate or had unrealistic expectations.

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Response to jcgoldie (Reply #30)

Fri Oct 23, 2020, 11:50 AM

31. No, almost everything that I read on my social media was negative about her

Iím not being unrealistic. I have an opinion. You disagree and thatís fine. I saw Trump running right over her several times.

I thought she did a very poor job. Is it okay with you that I dare disagree with your assessment? Because if itís not, too bad.

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Response to hamsterjill (Reply #31)

Fri Oct 23, 2020, 11:55 AM

32. Social media

There you go. 😂

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Response to jcgoldie (Reply #32)

Fri Oct 23, 2020, 12:09 PM

33. Why is it so important to you that everyone agrees with you?

I donít agree that she did a good job. You think she did.

Can we leave it at that? Itís over...

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Response to hamsterjill (Reply #15)

Fri Oct 23, 2020, 08:44 AM

25. His mic was muted

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Response to nolabear (Reply #13)

Thu Oct 22, 2020, 11:30 PM

16. I thought she did a good job

better then the previous ones have done.

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