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Drunken Irishman

(34,857 posts)
2. What's interesting is his referencing the 2016 tweets...
Mon Oct 26, 2020, 12:28 AM
Oct 2020

...where at this point in the race he was cautioning that things were way closer than most believed due to a few factors, but most importantly, the fact that Hillary was getting decimated at the district level in some polls from PA, WI and MI, a foreboding of what was to come.

He mentions in this tweet just that.

He also tweeted out an article from 538 four years ago about how the prospects of a popular vote/electoral college split was becoming increasingly possible (not likely - but possible). Welp .

sunonmars

(8,656 posts)
9. We forget the presidential election is a microcasm of 435 CD's, they are an indicator of the reality
Mon Oct 26, 2020, 05:25 AM
Oct 2020

If Trump's support is lagging 8-10 points behind in districts he won over in 2016, then frankly he is in huge problems.

District polls i find are a better indicator than state or national polls.

radius777

(3,635 posts)
10. Yep, in 2016 time the warning signs were there:
Mon Oct 26, 2020, 05:36 AM
Oct 2020

-many undecideds
-relevant 3rd party candidates
-historic negatives for both candidates
-district level polling was bad with white working class voters
-Hillary was the de facto 'incumbent' and voters typically want a change after 8 years of the same party.
-Obama only won by 4 points in 2012 and we lost the Senate in 2014.

This time the fundamentals are much different, and more resemble 1980 type of election, with an unpopular incumbent and a challenger who is viewed as experienced and optimistic.

 

Earthshine2

(4,044 posts)
3. Even if it assured that Biden will win your state -- get out and vote!
Mon Oct 26, 2020, 12:31 AM
Oct 2020

1. The downballot needs your vote.
2. The bigger the margin of Biden's victory, the greater his mandate will be, the more humiliated Trump will be.

judeling

(1,086 posts)
5. As he should
Mon Oct 26, 2020, 12:39 AM
Oct 2020

The last hope Trump has is that his ground game does it.
The problem is those that the ground game this year will actually get are not the ones he needs. Older voters have been scared enough that knocking on their doors can hurt you a bunch are are likely more reachable through tradition broadcast and 60 Minutes was probably worth a million knocks. Young voters live online anyway it is more just getting them out and the simple 5 second Biden and Harris vote messages I get on YouTube all the time probably work for that.

JI7

(89,269 posts)
6. NO NO NO , feeling much better compared to 2016 but let people vote
Mon Oct 26, 2020, 12:40 AM
Oct 2020

we need them to come out and vote .

If you call it people will start celebrating early and maybe forget to vote.

Newest Reality

(12,712 posts)
7. Ah,
Mon Oct 26, 2020, 01:05 AM
Oct 2020

The win is not the only thing.

We could use a landslide badly all things considered. Just a marginal win leaves more room for him to attempt his coup.

Make no assumptions.

Be another drop that helps build a HUGE blue wave and wash the Trump right out!

VOTE!

 

beachbumbob

(9,263 posts)
11. silly talk at this point as we all must think we are 5 points behind and GOTV
Mon Oct 26, 2020, 06:06 AM
Oct 2020

not sure who all these people are who want to impress others. I know we are going to win but we needed to act like every single vote matters. Its all about running up a massive vote count to give our people the MANDATE in Congress and the Whitehouse

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