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Right wing says The Ryan/Romney Chant Snfu didn't happen but Morning Joe says it did (Original Post) Ichingcarpenter Sep 2012 OP
You GO Joe! Play it again on Monday, I will support you! Happyhippychick Sep 2012 #1
When did Morning Joe go from Right wing to being our friend? Awful lot of reframing going on at leveymg Sep 2012 #2
LOL grasswire Sep 2012 #5
Sorry to hear that about Mathews. Better that he should be on "our side" now, as he's an effective leveymg Sep 2012 #11
Tweety has been kicking ass and taking names. Remember, Tweety is former Peace Corp as was our winstars Sep 2012 #20
Matthews has been great throughout Obama's term Hamlette Sep 2012 #22
he'll be 67 in December grasswire Sep 2012 #23
Yes, Chris Hayes is excellent on the weekends, and I'd forgotten about his son Hamlette Sep 2012 #25
What about his son? eom Frustratedlady Sep 2012 #29
Tweety's son is involved with the new show "Newsroom" nt grasswire Sep 2012 #31
Duh! I KNEW that but forgot. Thanks! eom Frustratedlady Sep 2012 #34
I meant Chris Matthews but my fingers typed Chris Hayes. Ack. Hamlette Sep 2012 #33
Thanks! That's what threw me. No problem. Frustratedlady Sep 2012 #35
Definitely not his last roundup! He is 66 but... He brags, with good reason, that he "made' Bachman winstars Sep 2012 #24
he was quite ill a couple of years ago grasswire Sep 2012 #32
Joe's not out friend, except in the "enemy of my enemy" sense JHB Sep 2012 #8
Joe is right. I watched it, Romney's name was not mentioned, "Ryan, Ryan" was the chant. Joe's monmouth Sep 2012 #3
Of COURSE it was "Ryan, Ryan, Ryan" otherwise Mittens would have had no reason beac Sep 2012 #10
Sure sounds like "Ryan Ryan" to me. DCBob Sep 2012 #4
President Obama would have joined in fugop Sep 2012 #7
Probably. Obama is so cool in situations like that. DCBob Sep 2012 #15
romney is sensitive because he knows that no one really wants him. ejpoeta Sep 2012 #12
They're saying it "didn't happen" because of the "There you go!"? JHB Sep 2012 #6
They are saying NBC edited it Ichingcarpenter Sep 2012 #9
Oh, of course. "In case of emergency, blame Liberal Media" n/t JHB Sep 2012 #18
They always accuse the left of doing what they do themselves. Total projection. yardwork Sep 2012 #27
Here's a CSPAN link shot from another perspective -still sounds like Ryan mostly to me Rose Siding Sep 2012 #13
still sounds like "Ryan Ryan" to me. DCBob Sep 2012 #14
And the way they've drawn Scar into it, just draws more attn to it Rose Siding Sep 2012 #16
So stupid of them. Another campaign gaffe. yardwork Sep 2012 #28
I listen to right-wing radio briefly on my short trips to the store and limpturd was talking about sammytko Sep 2012 #17
Good Lord tey can't even accept reality. hrmjustin Sep 2012 #19
-------- JaneyVee Sep 2012 #21
Stupid move on Rmoney's part gopiscrap Sep 2012 #26
What, do they think the video was doctored or something? porphyrian Sep 2012 #30
Listen to the Audio Gal Friday Sep 2012 #36

leveymg

(36,418 posts)
2. When did Morning Joe go from Right wing to being our friend? Awful lot of reframing going on at
Sat Sep 29, 2012, 11:40 AM
Sep 2012

MSNBC. Tweety practically sounds like a Member of the SDS these days.

grasswire

(50,130 posts)
5. LOL
Sat Sep 29, 2012, 12:03 PM
Sep 2012

Here's what I think is going on with Tweety. He may know that this is his last time to cover a presidential campaign. Four years from now he may not have the good health to anchor a show. (Diabetes is a progressive disease.) I think he's giving it everything he's got, and returning to his liberal roots. He's not a progressive; he's an old-time Kennedy liberal.

leveymg

(36,418 posts)
11. Sorry to hear that about Mathews. Better that he should be on "our side" now, as he's an effective
Sat Sep 29, 2012, 12:25 PM
Sep 2012

polemicist and a lot of people find him appealing and he draws some interesting panelists to his show.

Personally, my brow is always a little furrowed while I watch him. He's a little too opportunistic and blended for me. I'll take my Irish straight, no chaser.

winstars

(4,213 posts)
20. Tweety has been kicking ass and taking names. Remember, Tweety is former Peace Corp as was our
Sun Sep 30, 2012, 01:25 AM
Sep 2012

Ambassador in Libya, Chris Stevens. I think Mittens jumping the gun and saying all the wrong things in this Benghazi incident flipped out Tweety out even more than he was. He had just blown up Rinse Primus on Joey Scar and is/was on a roll. He is like, fuck this shit, I am saying what I think for now on... Remember, he chose not to try for Senator in PA, and the diabetes thing is real so...

And I call him Tweety because we always have here (maybe at the late, "Crooks and Liars" first) and because he does actually look like Tweety Bird.

Hamlette

(15,384 posts)
22. Matthews has been great throughout Obama's term
Sun Sep 30, 2012, 02:11 AM
Sep 2012

It didn't just happen yesterday. I've been watching him everyday since 2008.

What I think happened is MSNBC figured out they could make it as the answer to Fox. Before Olbermann, and for a few years after Keith started, MSNBC was trying to be neutral but realized Olbermann was making them money. By the time the 2008 election heated up, throughout the primaries, MSNBC's rating went through the roof and they started leaning more and more to the left.

I think Chris has always been a good guy. Yes, he's not a progressive but he is a liberal. But, and he was at his worst in the 2000 election when I vowed to never watch him again, he bought into the whole "journalists have to be neutral". I'm sure there are a lot of good reasons for that. You'll notice that MSNBC hardly ever gets any republicans on their shows with the exception of those it pays like Steel and Schmidt. Politicians won't show up now but 4-6 years ago they would come on (remember Bachman made her famous Democratic Congresspeople are unAmerican statement on Chris' show.) Chris finally said "F*** it. Might as well go all in."

I don't think he sees this as his last election. He's only about 60. Not that old even with diabetes.

grasswire

(50,130 posts)
23. he'll be 67 in December
Sun Sep 30, 2012, 02:36 AM
Sep 2012

Another factor in his improvement may be that his son is part of the hit TV series "Newsroom" -- a show that portrays what *real* journalism looks like.

I do see a lot of new blood on MSNBC lately, and that's got to be motivating, too.

Hamlette

(15,384 posts)
25. Yes, Chris Hayes is excellent on the weekends, and I'd forgotten about his son
Sun Sep 30, 2012, 11:13 AM
Sep 2012

I am sure that is a huge influence. Seems his numbers are up too but I admit to not following the ratings unless they are mentioned here.

winstars

(4,213 posts)
24. Definitely not his last roundup! He is 66 but... He brags, with good reason, that he "made' Bachman
Sun Sep 30, 2012, 02:37 AM
Sep 2012

No, Tweety's rocking these days and I am quite happy with the set up we currently have on MSNBC. If Mrs. Greenspan, The Mourning Schmoe, Chuckie Toad and of course "The Cycle" is our biggest problem, these ain't so bad times. And I do love me some Crystal Ball and Steve Kornacki, S.E. Cupp not so much...

Now, somehow getting KO back without the KO issues would be Nirvana...

Go Tweety!!!

grasswire

(50,130 posts)
32. he was quite ill a couple of years ago
Sun Sep 30, 2012, 12:59 PM
Sep 2012

He is looking very healthy and vigorous right now. I don't know if malaria has any residual effects later in life, but he had that disease when he was in the peace corps.



JHB

(37,122 posts)
8. Joe's not out friend, except in the "enemy of my enemy" sense
Sat Sep 29, 2012, 12:10 PM
Sep 2012

He's angling to throw his own hat in the ring in 2016, and he's not going to succeed with the Republicans in their present zealot-and-billionaire-fueled Gong Show state.

He wants "his" party back, conveniently forgetting that "He built it."

monmouth

(21,078 posts)
3. Joe is right. I watched it, Romney's name was not mentioned, "Ryan, Ryan" was the chant. Joe's
Sat Sep 29, 2012, 11:41 AM
Sep 2012

reaction was the same as everyone elses, including Mika who saw the same thing as the rest of us...It was hilarious.

beac

(9,992 posts)
10. Of COURSE it was "Ryan, Ryan, Ryan" otherwise Mittens would have had no reason
Sat Sep 29, 2012, 12:16 PM
Sep 2012

to try and change it... "It's Romney-Ryan, Romney-Ryan, Romney-Ryan, there you go!"-- even though the crowd didn't actually "go"... Mittens just realized he was making a fool of himself.

DCBob

(24,689 posts)
4. Sure sounds like "Ryan Ryan" to me.
Sat Sep 29, 2012, 11:56 AM
Sep 2012

In fact it would make no sense at that point for the crowd to be cheering "Romney, Romney".. because Mittens just said "wow that Paul Ryan is something isnt he!" It totally made sense for them to cheer "Ryan Ryan". Romney should have just let them do it for awhile and then joke about it... "Hey what about me?" Thats the way Obama would have handled it. Romney is complete idiot in situations like that.

fugop

(1,828 posts)
7. President Obama would have joined in
Sat Sep 29, 2012, 12:07 PM
Sep 2012

He totally would have joined a Biden cheer. Romney just showed how insecure he is by needing to put the attention back on himself. It's sad, really.

DCBob

(24,689 posts)
15. Probably. Obama is so cool in situations like that.
Sat Sep 29, 2012, 01:55 PM
Sep 2012

Romney cant deal with anything unscripted.

ejpoeta

(8,933 posts)
12. romney is sensitive because he knows that no one really wants him.
Sat Sep 29, 2012, 12:34 PM
Sep 2012

that they'd toss him and put ryan at the top spot if they had the chance. If he was secure he would not have reacted that way. he knows no one really wants him and are just tolerating him.

JHB

(37,122 posts)
6. They're saying it "didn't happen" because of the "There you go!"?
Sat Sep 29, 2012, 12:04 PM
Sep 2012

I'd wonder what kind of delusional dopes they were, but it's the Breitbart cultists, so this is small beans for them.

Romney introduced Ryan and there was an audible chant for Ryan. Then Mittens interrupted them to stick his name in, and there was a garbled, much less enthusiastic response. It was plain as day, but of course there are objections from the people who are trying to turn a lying drunk failed scriptwriter with a big chip on his shoulder into some kind of revolutionary icon.

Ichingcarpenter

(36,988 posts)
9. They are saying NBC edited it
Sat Sep 29, 2012, 12:10 PM
Sep 2012

I'm now getting the meme from other RW sites.

Its seems this will be the new talking point to save Mitt's ass which will only bring up the embarrassing tape again.

Joe if you notice on the link is answering the site... LOL.... I love when they eat their own.

yardwork

(61,331 posts)
27. They always accuse the left of doing what they do themselves. Total projection.
Sun Sep 30, 2012, 11:32 AM
Sep 2012

Breitbart edited everything, lied cheated and stole, so naturally his site accuses the "left wing media" (I'd laugh but it isn't even funny) of doing it.

Rose Siding

(32,623 posts)
13. Here's a CSPAN link shot from another perspective -still sounds like Ryan mostly to me
Sat Sep 29, 2012, 01:15 PM
Sep 2012

Maybe there were a few 'Romney's thrown in but sounds primarily like Ryan and I bet that's what Romney heard.

http://www.c-spanvideo.org/clip/3985077

DCBob

(24,689 posts)
14. still sounds like "Ryan Ryan" to me.
Sat Sep 29, 2012, 01:45 PM
Sep 2012

The GOPers just hate this because it reinforces that Romney is a gaffe-prone idiot.

Rose Siding

(32,623 posts)
16. And the way they've drawn Scar into it, just draws more attn to it
Sat Sep 29, 2012, 02:41 PM
Sep 2012

They're insisting he doctored the clip he had. Of course he didn't and he'll give it more air on Monday to defend himself. win.

yardwork

(61,331 posts)
28. So stupid of them. Another campaign gaffe.
Sun Sep 30, 2012, 11:33 AM
Sep 2012

When something embarrassing happens to your candidate, distract people from it. Don't double down and give the opposition more airplay.

sammytko

(2,480 posts)
17. I listen to right-wing radio briefly on my short trips to the store and limpturd was talking about
Sat Sep 29, 2012, 03:46 PM
Sep 2012

this.

He said there was even an article in the NYTimes describing the "real" scene. I have a sub to the on-line version and didn't find anything.

gopiscrap

(23,662 posts)
26. Stupid move on Rmoney's part
Sun Sep 30, 2012, 11:24 AM
Sep 2012

Scar is suposed to be his friend and if you pisshim off, then he'll run more unfavorable shit against you!

 

porphyrian

(18,530 posts)
30. What, do they think the video was doctored or something?
Sun Sep 30, 2012, 11:41 AM
Sep 2012

It's incredible what republicans are and are not willing to believe, and their gullibility is precisely why we cannot afford to have them in charge. Of anything.

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