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(1,406 posts)
Mon Oct 26, 2020, 09:15 PM Oct 2020

Here is what I have real problems with:

Immigrants who came here from countries under autocratic rule. fleeing inhumane and vicious leaders, looking for freedom from corruption and fascism, professing strong beliefs is family values and Christian ideals, and looking for economic opportunity, once getting here seem to favor leaders they are fleeing. There is no way I could vote for a man like Trump who oversaw pulling babies from their parents, placing them in cages in horrible conditions and not caring if they ever found their parents again. Voting for Trump just because your 401K us doubt well or because you were lucky enough to get a good job ...all of which could disappear overnight...just seems so obscene and hypocritical. It's sickening.

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(11,686 posts)
1. It is like abused people.
Mon Oct 26, 2020, 09:21 PM
Oct 2020

They are abused as children and end up finding a spouse who is the same way. It is comfortable to them. In this country one of the differences is that they get to vote for their abuse.



(31,997 posts)
3. no one will be spending their 401K when they die of covid
Mon Oct 26, 2020, 09:22 PM
Oct 2020

or lack of insurance

there will be nothing left

either money

or life


(3,624 posts)
4. Agree completely, and it's why this idea that more immigration
Mon Oct 26, 2020, 09:55 PM
Oct 2020

will benefit Dems is a fallacy as alot of those folks are from very conservative countries and upbringings, and tend to admire strongmen types such as Trump.

As a man of color who is familiar with some of these communities, it is no surprise to me that he has some level of support with such communities.


(40,902 posts)
8. I have also experienced plenty of that, quite conservative
Tue Oct 27, 2020, 03:41 AM
Oct 2020

people from Latin America and Asia. Many don't have the chance to study and learn about democracy and governance which is no fault of theirs.

For many new immigrants the main focus is economic security and maintaining familiy and relious observance. Our system of paying taxes and the political structure aren't understood much at all and I tire of hearing complaints and trying to inform people.

Attitudes toward women in subservient roles, unfamiliarity with independent working women can be hard to take.


(13,750 posts)
5. The Cubans coming here in the '60s like their dictatorship in Cuba.
Mon Oct 26, 2020, 10:05 PM
Oct 2020

They were the wealthy and upper middle class, connected to Batista, and had to leave when the revolution succeeded.

They are just trying to create their privileged life, under a dictatorship, here in the USA.

Mister Ed

(5,829 posts)
6. I know several such people.
Tue Oct 27, 2020, 03:27 AM
Oct 2020

One was born in a refugee camp, where her family was given shelter after fleeing the postwar Communist advance in Eastern Europe.

Now she cheers and applauds the policy of caging the children of her fellow refugees, and is blind to the irony.


(505 posts)
7. A lot of them are used to having "strongmen" run their countries
Tue Oct 27, 2020, 03:32 AM
Oct 2020

And they see Trump as a 'strongman'. It's this weird toxic masculinity. The irony is Trump is nothing but a coward.

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