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Boogiemack

(1,406 posts)
Thu Oct 29, 2020, 09:10 AM Oct 2020

Can someone please explain exactly why Cuban Americans support a person like Trump?

I know the history but I still do not understand the heavy support of Trump who seems to stand against everything of family and social value for immigrants and minorities in general.

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Can someone please explain exactly why Cuban Americans support a person like Trump? (Original Post) Boogiemack Oct 2020 OP
Was just asking myself the same thing after DURHAM D Oct 2020 #1
Socialism is a real problem for a lot of people. Claustrum Oct 2020 #2
What kind of socialism? Social Security, Medicare, farm subsidies, tax subsidies..? Boogiemack Oct 2020 #8
Like I said, they are wrong on their definition of "socialism". Claustrum Oct 2020 #15
Castro took their great grandparents' property 60 years ago. Goodheart Oct 2020 #3
That doesn't explain the cultural reasons for supporting Republicans. Republicans leadership does .. uponit7771 Oct 2020 #6
Yes, it does. Goodheart Oct 2020 #16
My understanding from my Cuban friends a good portion of them consider themselves "white" in culture uponit7771 Oct 2020 #4
People do seem to forget that they are "white" DURHAM D Oct 2020 #12
Not all Cubans are white skinned or white cultured and the kGOP doesn't consider them either in uponit7771 Oct 2020 #29
That's very true. Ligyron Oct 2020 #21
And the stuff that comes out of Trump's policies and his mouth is ok with them? Boogiemack Oct 2020 #24
They either don't hear it, don't believe it or rationalize it somehow. Ligyron Oct 2020 #28
Kneejerk reaction to accusations of socialism. Some are just sexist , racist , anti gay etc JI7 Oct 2020 #5
Their support of vile, despicable, vulgar vainglorious Trump Aristus Oct 2020 #7
'vainglorious'. NICE! 634-5789 Oct 2020 #10
That's a Steve Schmidt SAT word! Dream Girl Oct 2020 #18
Most never lived under Batista. it's about life in Venezuela sucks JI7 Oct 2020 #25
They're deathly afraid of any SOCIALISM. And thy've been lied to forever about that. 634-5789 Oct 2020 #9
That's it . marybourg Oct 2020 #13
Immigrants from communist/socialist countries tend to be right wing Klaralven Oct 2020 #11
Because Cuban Americans and a lot of Hispanics are conservative. Republicans are Autumn Oct 2020 #14
They support anyone who takes a hard line against the Cuban government. roamer65 Oct 2020 #17
1. Default: Republicans hate communism and Cuba. no_hypocrisy Oct 2020 #19
Ongoing propaganda. moondust Oct 2020 #20
The Church 4Q2u2 Oct 2020 #22
All cultures have fearful people. LakeArenal Oct 2020 #23
A lot of South Florida Cuban-Americans.... Happy Hoosier Oct 2020 #26
Maybe they miss Castro. Binkie The Clown Oct 2020 #27
Because in the Cuban community you have smart people who will vote for Biden marie999 Oct 2020 #30

DURHAM D

(32,559 posts)
1. Was just asking myself the same thing after
Thu Oct 29, 2020, 09:14 AM
Oct 2020

seeing the report on MSNBC about their high support for the Traitor.

Claustrum

(4,845 posts)
2. Socialism is a real problem for a lot of people.
Thu Oct 29, 2020, 09:14 AM
Oct 2020

My parents are the same. They don't like social programs because it's similar to socialism/communism. They are wrong about what social programs are in the US but republican are good at scaring them and framing it in the way that makes them scared.

 

Boogiemack

(1,406 posts)
8. What kind of socialism? Social Security, Medicare, farm subsidies, tax subsidies..?
Thu Oct 29, 2020, 09:21 AM
Oct 2020

The kind that helps people vs the kind that help people who don't really need it? What? Or is it strictly a government looking out for ordinary working men and women and those who are unable to work or the sick and elderly. I still don't get it.

Should government not help it citizens and seek to raise the standard of living for all or just a few?
It seems that there is no limits to wealth even if the holders of such wealth will never be able to spend all they have. At a certain point, having it all should be enough.

Claustrum

(4,845 posts)
15. Like I said, they are wrong on their definition of "socialism".
Thu Oct 29, 2020, 09:25 AM
Oct 2020

I personally agree with you. But they don't like using their tax dollars to help other people. It's always one of those "lazy" people who gamed the system when they shouldn't.

And of course, it's also the rhetoric coming from republicans claiming everything as "socialism". Have you seen any of their ads? Everything is "socialism" and is super bad. I also don't think the UBI talk helps.

Goodheart

(5,116 posts)
3. Castro took their great grandparents' property 60 years ago.
Thu Oct 29, 2020, 09:17 AM
Oct 2020

Those great grandparents held onto the belief that the USA would somehow recover such property for them, teaching both that and that "socialism" is evil to their children, and then to their children's children, and then to their children's children's children.

In a nutshell, they're living in la la land.

uponit7771

(90,164 posts)
6. That doesn't explain the cultural reasons for supporting Republicans. Republicans leadership does ..
Thu Oct 29, 2020, 09:20 AM
Oct 2020

... not value non white cultures in America and for some reason a good portion of Cubans consider themselves "white" cultured.

That's not the way the kGOP sees them or Trump

uponit7771

(90,164 posts)
4. My understanding from my Cuban friends a good portion of them consider themselves "white" in culture
Thu Oct 29, 2020, 09:18 AM
Oct 2020

... or skin color etc.

The other part is the passed down response of socialism and anything that looks like it.

Imagine Trump and anything that looks like MAGA in the next 10 yrs, the country will repel instantly

DURHAM D

(32,559 posts)
12. People do seem to forget that they are "white"
Thu Oct 29, 2020, 09:24 AM
Oct 2020

I have two friends that were born in Cuba. One of them is 100% Spanish and the other is 100% German, iows - they considered themselves European.

btw - Their parents died thinking they were going to reclaim the villa but the kids/ grandkids are all Democrats.

uponit7771

(90,164 posts)
29. Not all Cubans are white skinned or white cultured and the kGOP doesn't consider them either in
Thu Oct 29, 2020, 10:01 AM
Oct 2020

.. anyway.

The kGOP is the most xenophobic and racist administration in my life time.

Ligyron

(7,565 posts)
21. That's very true.
Thu Oct 29, 2020, 09:33 AM
Oct 2020

Grew up with the first wave of Cubans and heard numerous discussions over the years of how much Castilian blood was in an individual or their familia. Castilians were supposed to be super white or something in their eyes.

Totally unrelated but we live in a beach resort town and the Cuban girls had a heck of a time convincing their madres in particular that it was totally normal and OK to go around in a bathing suit when not actually emersed in the ocean proper.

Bathing suits that were modest in comparison to what younger females wear now I might add, not that there is a thing wrong with them.

 

Boogiemack

(1,406 posts)
24. And the stuff that comes out of Trump's policies and his mouth is ok with them?
Thu Oct 29, 2020, 09:40 AM
Oct 2020

Now I am more confused.

Ligyron

(7,565 posts)
28. They either don't hear it, don't believe it or rationalize it somehow.
Thu Oct 29, 2020, 10:01 AM
Oct 2020

Just like Faux News watchers do when some fact they don't like is presented.

Much of the older generation has died off but they hated Kennedy and Democrats mostly for the Bay of Pigs fiasco. Most of them became American citizens and were very proud to be one too. Of course, it was much easier then for all nationalities.

Unlike Mexicans today, by law if a Cuban could get one foot on American soil, they were in.

Aristus

(65,804 posts)
7. Their support of vile, despicable, vulgar vainglorious Trump
Thu Oct 29, 2020, 09:21 AM
Oct 2020

makes sense when you realize how much they miss vile, despicable, vulgar, vainglorious Battista.

JI7

(89,116 posts)
25. Most never lived under Batista. it's about life in Venezuela sucks
Thu Oct 29, 2020, 09:41 AM
Oct 2020

life in Cuba sucks.

the fact Batista sucked doesn't change that

 

Klaralven

(7,510 posts)
11. Immigrants from communist/socialist countries tend to be right wing
Thu Oct 29, 2020, 09:23 AM
Oct 2020

Vietnamese have been the most conservative of Asian groups, although that is fading now.


Vietnamese-Americans are more likely to choose President Donald Trump over Democrat Joe Biden in November’s election, according to the 2020 Asian American Voter Survey conducted by three Asian American civic engagement groups. But these results only enforce the growing frustration among a younger, more liberal Vietnamese-American generation.


http://www.uscannenbergmedia.com/2020/09/21/vietnamese-americans-more-likely-to-vote-for-trump-survey-says-how-are-their-liberal-kids-coping/

Autumn

(44,602 posts)
14. Because Cuban Americans and a lot of Hispanics are conservative. Republicans are
Thu Oct 29, 2020, 09:25 AM
Oct 2020

not against many of the values they stand for. They are religious, many are right on par with evangelicals in terms of their level of belief in what they are told.

roamer65

(36,736 posts)
17. They support anyone who takes a hard line against the Cuban government.
Thu Oct 29, 2020, 09:26 AM
Oct 2020

Nothing else matters, just like anti-choice cultists.

no_hypocrisy

(45,369 posts)
19. 1. Default: Republicans hate communism and Cuba.
Thu Oct 29, 2020, 09:29 AM
Oct 2020

2. Trump dissed Castro’s brother, Raul.
3. Trump re-imposed travel and trade restrictions to/with Cuba.
4. Cubans in exile hope after Trump’s done with Venezuela, Cuba’s next, they can go home, and get their families’ properties back.

moondust

(19,855 posts)
20. Ongoing propaganda.
Thu Oct 29, 2020, 09:30 AM
Oct 2020

I heard Ana Navarro on TV a few days ago say that there have been ads running in Cuban/refugee areas of Florida for the past 4 years linking Democrats to socialism/Cuba/Venezuela/Maduro/whatever.

 

4Q2u2

(1,406 posts)
22. The Church
Thu Oct 29, 2020, 09:37 AM
Oct 2020

Good Old Fashion Catholic Conservatives.
Forgetting that Jesus was a Socialist and ignoring all his teachings.
Forgetting that Catholics used to Unionist and fight for the oppressed little guy.
Oh yeah of course Dead Babies.


LakeArenal

(28,611 posts)
23. All cultures have fearful people.
Thu Oct 29, 2020, 09:40 AM
Oct 2020

They have “theirs” but don’t want anyone to do better or fearful they will lose theirs.

Happy Hoosier

(6,840 posts)
26. A lot of South Florida Cuban-Americans....
Thu Oct 29, 2020, 09:50 AM
Oct 2020

were refugees from Castro's Cuba. That kind of resentment runs deep and for many of these folks, the idea of some sort of reconciliation with communist Cuba is just out of the question. So Trump's bullshit "tough guy" act appeals to them because they are responding emotionally, not rationally.

 

marie999

(3,334 posts)
30. Because in the Cuban community you have smart people who will vote for Biden
Thu Oct 29, 2020, 10:05 AM
Oct 2020

and dumb people who will vote for trump just like in every other community in this country.

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