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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsChris Hayes (MSNBC) now....
with Dr. William Haseltine (?) talking about post-Trump solutions to defeat the virus. Pay people to stay at home. Makes sense to me. In 3 months, we can get our life back.
Laelth
(32,017 posts)Doesnt sound so crazy now, does it? Once Americans have it, they may not be willing to give it up. Thats what happened with the ACA.
-Laelth
underpants
(182,803 posts)I dont think we know for sure if this was part of the plan but the $600 supplement was $15/hour.
Ive spoken with several hair cutters and retail workers who said theyve never been more comfortable in their working lives. Credit cards paid off. Money set aside. Etc.
Laelth
(32,017 posts)The whole nation is vastly richer when poor people have money to spend.
-Laelth
Long overdue
dweller
(23,632 posts)And in 3 months, down to zero ... sure Wall st may suffer, but humans will survive...
Remember the 1st shutdown?
on edit: we just hit 91,309 cases today ...
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But the message should have linked social policy to economic policy. We could have done it very cost effectively 6 months ago. And be in full recovery mode, starting in July, past.
Sherman A1
(38,958 posts)OAITW r.2.0
(24,491 posts)Wall Street exists to make money for consumer based corporations serving consumers. Say you have a $100MM lottery and a single winner. Is this a better distribution or a lottery where a 1000 people make a $100,000? What we need is an economy focused on the keeping consumer economy operative.
Sherman A1
(38,958 posts)That is correct and Im fully supportive of the Freedom Dividend that Andrew Yang proposed in his campaign. Everyone does better.
underpants
(182,803 posts)I think weve really already missed the window but ....
If we could shut down for just one month (2 would be better) we could kill this or at least save the hospitals and staff from getting worn out. There are always people who will have to work but if we could get a certain lump of money for people to prepare and then shutdown everything we can it could happen. We do have to remember that there are people who dont have the regular documentation to get funds to - they are going to need money too. There are some lose ends but we could do it. Its our last chance or this will be perpetual in some way.
OAITW r.2.0
(24,491 posts)Is the future going to be the collective reality the Trump voter believes in or the reality in which we live.
This election will decide. If we win, we go all in - make the changes we know will make America better again. If we lose, we fight another election cycle.
dweller
(23,632 posts)to post 91,309 ... it has climbed to 91,330 ...
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underpants
(182,803 posts)OAITW r.2.0
(24,491 posts)Love to know!
dweller
(23,632 posts)OAITW r.2.0
(24,491 posts)Whatta trend.....
In the US today
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OAITW r.2.0
(24,491 posts)dweller
(23,632 posts)545,299 ...
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
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dweller
(23,632 posts)91,530 new cases in US today ...
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Rice4VP
(1,235 posts)OAITW r.2.0
(24,491 posts)Sucks, but I have a different perspective. Living isolated on the 45th parallel and I love where I am.
OnDoutside
(19,956 posts)going to open up a whole new set of business opportunities, as well as alleviating traffic, CO2 emissions and improving the quality of life for millions.
Pluvious
(4,310 posts)Surely we can do better than 89,000 new a day...
maxsolomon
(33,345 posts)And a culture where "Individual Freedom" is not the primary value.
America CAN'T do better than 89K cases in a day - we just proved it.
maxsolomon
(33,345 posts)Since I've been home since March watching loudmouth dipshits and clueless cretins fuck it all up.