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Does the Dem 48 include the two Independents? (Original Post) malaise Nov 2020 OP
Sadly, yes. Beakybird Nov 2020 #1
Well we can hope malaise Nov 2020 #3
YES. Cartaphelius Nov 2020 #2
Yes jcgoldie Nov 2020 #4
Go Dems! malaise Nov 2020 #5
Wish the 2 Indies would flip to Democrat. OAITW r.2.0 Nov 2020 #6
He already caucuses with the Dems leftieNanner Nov 2020 #7
Right, I know that.... OAITW r.2.0 Nov 2020 #8
Got it leftieNanner Nov 2020 #9
I want to know with 50/50 who has control of senate. I know in a vote VP is tie breaker. But control LizBeth Nov 2020 #10
School House Rock BlueInPhilly Nov 2020 #11
Seriously? I asked about the senate not the powers of the three branches. LizBeth Nov 2020 #12
Where do you think the Senate is? BlueInPhilly Nov 2020 #13
No need to be so snarky. The question is if there is no majority given the 50-50 member layout, onetexan Nov 2020 #14
The question was obvious and the replies were beyond useless, let alone snarky. 50/50 what happens LizBeth Nov 2020 #15
My "snarky" remark was not directed toward you, but the person i replied to. onetexan Nov 2020 #17
+1 LizBeth Nov 2020 #21
And yo u went above and beyond, I see you have the answer. That is what I would conclude too. LizBeth Nov 2020 #16
The other poster got snarky too with the "seriously?" answer Polybius Nov 2020 #18
Clearly I asked solely about the senate. The post on 3 branches with snark was not only unneccesary, LizBeth Nov 2020 #20
I'll answer what I know then Polybius Nov 2020 #23
Interesting. The other poster added info stating that the majority goes to who the President LizBeth Nov 2020 #24
Now I am excited,.... There is a chance. LizBeth Nov 2020 #19
Nice malaise Nov 2020 #22
Yes Sgent Nov 2020 #25
There is the tie in. Yes, the VP would be the decider in breaking a tie. Of course. Thank you. Lol. LizBeth Nov 2020 #26

OAITW r.2.0

(24,737 posts)
6. Wish the 2 Indies would flip to Democrat.
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 12:06 PM
Nov 2020

Angus King(I-ME) seems like a great target....he would suffer no repercussions from the ME District 1 voters.

LizBeth

(9,952 posts)
10. I want to know with 50/50 who has control of senate. I know in a vote VP is tie breaker. But control
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 12:49 PM
Nov 2020

of the senate. Is that given to the party of the Presidency?

BlueInPhilly

(870 posts)
11. School House Rock
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 12:54 PM
Nov 2020

3 co-equal branches:

Executive
Legislative
Judiciary

No one is supposed to control the other.

BlueInPhilly

(870 posts)
13. Where do you think the Senate is?
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 01:54 PM
Nov 2020

No one controls the Senate, per se. The VP is the tie-breaker, but other than that, Senate is part of the Legislative branch.

Seriously?

onetexan

(13,078 posts)
14. No need to be so snarky. The question is if there is no majority given the 50-50 member layout,
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 01:57 PM
Nov 2020

are Republicans still in charge - ala Moscow Mitch?

NVM I found the answer:
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/what-happens-if-the-senate-splits-50-50-next-year/

Experts tracking this cycle’s competitive Senate races say a 50-50 split is a real possibility again. Were that to happen, the party that wins the White House would determine which party becomes the majority in the Senate -- because the vice president casts the tie-breaking vote.

Dems would take control in a tie

LizBeth

(9,952 posts)
15. The question was obvious and the replies were beyond useless, let alone snarky. 50/50 what happens
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 02:01 PM
Nov 2020

with majority party rules. Can I ask differently to make it more clear?

LizBeth

(9,952 posts)
16. And yo u went above and beyond, I see you have the answer. That is what I would conclude too.
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 02:02 PM
Nov 2020

I wanted a definite answer if anyone knew. But makes sense. Thank you again.

LizBeth

(9,952 posts)
20. Clearly I asked solely about the senate. The post on 3 branches with snark was not only unneccesary,
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 02:04 PM
Nov 2020

it was useless.

Polybius

(15,518 posts)
23. I'll answer what I know then
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 02:08 PM
Nov 2020

It it's 50-50 in the Senate, both Party's split everything equally. So both Mitch and Chuck would be co-Majority Leaders, although they would probably call themselves co-Senate Leaders, since both there is no majority.

What I don't know is if both have the power to bring up a bill or a judge on their own. They might need the other leader's approval. Or not.

LizBeth

(9,952 posts)
24. Interesting. The other poster added info stating that the majority goes to who the President
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 02:18 PM
Nov 2020

appoints. I like that answer better. Can you imagine Mitch working cooperatively with any Democrat? But yes, I was considering there might be that kind of arrangement that you suggest. But, I think the correct answer would be Biden would say Democratic have majority rule.

Sgent

(5,857 posts)
25. Yes
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 02:24 PM
Nov 2020

A tied 50-50 Senate in effect becomes a 51-50 Senate in favor of the VP's party. The VP is considered a Senator in all respects (as well as VP) except they refrain from voting other than ties.

LizBeth

(9,952 posts)
26. There is the tie in. Yes, the VP would be the decider in breaking a tie. Of course. Thank you. Lol.
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 02:32 PM
Nov 2020

Yes. The VP would make the senate 50/51, giving a majority.

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