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catbyte

(34,376 posts)
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 03:33 PM Nov 2020

'Come on Now': Michigan Judge Scoffs at & Tosses Trump Campaign Lawsuit Backed by 'Hearsay' Evidence

Adam Klasfeld
Nov 5th, 2020



In President Donald Trump’s second loss in court in a single day, a Michigan judge rejected the Trump campaign’s bid to stop counting ballots without their inspectors present. The judge scoffed at plaintiffs’ “hearsay” evidence that a lawyer said she heard from a poll worker regarding dates supposedly changed on ballots.

“‘I heard someone else say something,'” Michigan Judge Cynthia Stephens said on Thursday, summing up an affidavit submitted by the Trump campaign. “Tell me how that is not hearsay. Come on now!”

An attorney for the Democratic National Committee, seeking to intervene in the case, argued that the Trump campaign lacked factual support.

“No evidence in the record would allow the court to find a likelihood of success on the merits,” the DNC’s counsel Kevin Hamilton said in court.

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https://lawandcrime.com/2020-election/come-on-now-michigan-judge-scoffs-at-and-tosses-trump-campaign-lawsuit-backed-by-hearsay-evidence/

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'Come on Now': Michigan Judge Scoffs at & Tosses Trump Campaign Lawsuit Backed by 'Hearsay' Evidence (Original Post) catbyte Nov 2020 OP
Great news! Thanks for sharing! lagomorph777 Nov 2020 #1
Every reasonable person in this country is saying "come on now" C_U_L8R Nov 2020 #2
Except Biden and Obama. They say, "C'mon,man!" tblue37 Nov 2020 #5
Whaaaaa? gratuitous Nov 2020 #3
Just always keep one thing in mind about whatever comes out of the mouth of the donald. calimary Nov 2020 #13
... catbyte Nov 2020 #31
ohm myyy. AllaN01Bear Nov 2020 #35
Yep. That's about it. calimary Nov 2020 #37
Trump Has Bionic Eyes Deacon Blue Nov 2020 #19
Did they call the Attorney True Blue American Nov 2020 #25
First Year Law School Stuff Stallion Nov 2020 #4
Good! BumRushDaShow Nov 2020 #6
These people are supposed to be lawyers? grumpyduck Nov 2020 #7
They're the best lawyers that Trump can get. Chellee Nov 2020 #21
Good Attorneys Prefer to be Paid Stallion Nov 2020 #22
Whoever would've guessed that people prefer to be paid for their labor? Chellee Nov 2020 #24
I thought quite a few of the new judges they nominated were originally from Liberty U. Frustratedlady Nov 2020 #30
And Jared was looking for a "James Baker-type" of attorney Ilsa Nov 2020 #36
He's such a fucking idiot it's malaise Nov 2020 #8
Ghouliani SheltieLover Nov 2020 #9
Somebody said. I heard it from people lots of people. gibraltar72 Nov 2020 #10
To magical thinkers something is true just because they want it to be. Thomas Hurt Nov 2020 #11
Yes and Magical thinking is a symptom of psychosis. Captain Zero Nov 2020 #15
"many people are saying" doesn't woRk anymore??? Lock him up. Nov 2020 #12
Time to que "I Heard It Through the Grapevine". n/t sarge43 Nov 2020 #14
Those butthurt faces are priceless sandensea Nov 2020 #16
I see they all look ashamed lunatica Nov 2020 #17
It's actually "I heard someone say they heard someone else say..." JohnnyRingo Nov 2020 #18
Wait! James48 Nov 2020 #20
We need more of this and more of judges who turn this shit on its head. ffr Nov 2020 #23
Citations in Footnotes to Trump's Brief Stallion Nov 2020 #26
I( have known her for more than 30 years. She doesn't tolerate fools gladly. Faygo Kid Nov 2020 #27
Interesting article. llmart Nov 2020 #29
+1000 llmart Nov 2020 #28
I'm savoring all these crushing courtroom defeats Shermann Nov 2020 #32
Oh, the old "Come on now" ruling. BobTheSubgenius Nov 2020 #33
Frankly I think the attorneys trying to argue this case based on hearsay should be disciplined. cstanleytech Nov 2020 #34

C_U_L8R

(45,001 posts)
2. Every reasonable person in this country is saying "come on now"
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 03:35 PM
Nov 2020

I don't care how many there, but fuck these idiotic conspiracy-riddled magats.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
3. Whaaaaa?
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 03:37 PM
Nov 2020

"I heard someone else say something" isn't good, solid evidence in a court of law?! What strange sorcery is this? Next you'll tell me that Trump's oft-repeated tales of toughguys approaching him with tears in their eyes and their heart-breaking stories that invariably begin with the toughguy calling him "Sir" may not be reliable. Many people are saying that can't possibly be hearsay. Donald Trump has consulted with dozens of lawyers, the best lawyers, and none of them have even heard of this "hearsay" concept!

calimary

(81,238 posts)
13. Just always keep one thing in mind about whatever comes out of the mouth of the donald.
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 04:16 PM
Nov 2020

Don’t ever forget that HE is That Guy Who LIES ALL THE TIME.

Deacon Blue

(252 posts)
19. Trump Has Bionic Eyes
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 05:12 PM
Nov 2020

He could see Muslims dancing in New Jersey on 9/11. He’s got amazing powers of observation, after all.

Stallion

(6,474 posts)
4. First Year Law School Stuff
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 03:37 PM
Nov 2020

you actually have to prove your conspiracies in federal and state court with testimony or at least admissible affidavit factual allegations at this stage of the litigation

grumpyduck

(6,232 posts)
7. These people are supposed to be lawyers?
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 03:39 PM
Nov 2020

I'm certainly not a lawyer, and even I know what "hearsay" means.

They should have watched more Perry Mason episodes.

Chellee

(2,096 posts)
21. They're the best lawyers that Trump can get.
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 05:18 PM
Nov 2020

So....yeah, they're really lousy lawyers. To be fair, their client is both stupid and insane.

Chellee

(2,096 posts)
24. Whoever would've guessed that people prefer to be paid for their labor?
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 05:23 PM
Nov 2020

I would assume that being asked to put forth arguments that are both doomed to failure, and make you look foolish, also figure into the decision making process.

Frustratedlady

(16,254 posts)
30. I thought quite a few of the new judges they nominated were originally from Liberty U.
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 05:52 PM
Nov 2020

Falwell's old hangout.

Maybe a lot of his lawyers are also Liberty grads. Just sayin'. They don't have much of a reputation for sharp legal minds.

Ilsa

(61,695 posts)
36. And Jared was looking for a "James Baker-type" of attorney
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 06:45 PM
Nov 2020

to coordinate their assault on democracy!

I suspect most of the attorneys that like trump and know anything about him expect their work would be pro bono.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
17. I see they all look ashamed
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 05:04 PM
Nov 2020

Good! May they feel that way every single time they think about this day. Shame on them.

James48

(4,435 posts)
20. Wait!
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 05:13 PM
Nov 2020

But I read this post on Facebook, that had a meme of a guy on Twitter, who said his sister said she saw a poll worker throw a ballot into the trash can!

Stallion

(6,474 posts)
26. Citations in Footnotes to Trump's Brief
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 05:24 PM
Nov 2020

FOOTNOTES:

1. Glenn Beck
2. Rush Limpballs
3. Fox & Friends
4. Sean Hannity
5. Mark Levin

Faygo Kid

(21,478 posts)
27. I( have known her for more than 30 years. She doesn't tolerate fools gladly.
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 05:37 PM
Nov 2020

Believe me, she is a tough but fair lady. We shared some good times at the State Bar of Michigan, back in the day. That's her on the left, in a program she supported 100 percent. Worth your time to read:

https://www.michbar.org/programs/milestone/milestones_evebellesvote

llmart

(15,536 posts)
28. +1000
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 05:44 PM
Nov 2020

We've got some badass boss ladies in Michigan!

Wonder if those attorneys went to a fifth tier law school.

Shermann

(7,413 posts)
32. I'm savoring all these crushing courtroom defeats
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 05:57 PM
Nov 2020

They are like those little sweet crunchy things that are sprinkled on doughnuts.

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