What's Wrong with Kansas? . . . What's Wrong with our Nation?

[King_Klonopin]

Last edited Fri Nov 6, 2020, 05:47 AM - Edit history (1)

This was already posted by Nevilledog:

@StevenBeschloss
Over 66 million Americans who lived through the last four years decided they wanted to give Donald Trump four more years to keep going. I don’t know what’s worse: They were successfully manipulated by propaganda or they saw exactly what Trump was doing and like it.

In a fantasy of optimism, I expected that Trump would be resoundingly rejected in this election --
that his rabid, brainwashed base would be the only ones insane enough or mean enough to vote for him
(roughly 35-40% of the popular vote)

BUT, as we have seen, Trump has presently won 47.9% of the popular vote. Close to HALF of all Americans
who bothered to vote -- 69,619,454 people in total -- voted for this cretinous, cancerous human being.

2016 Presidential Election:

Clinton: 65,845,063 votes (48.2%)
Trump: 62,980,160 votes (46.1%)
Others: 6,674,811 votes (5.7%)

TOTAL: 135,500,034 votes

2020 Presidential Election (so far)

Biden: 73,482,728 votes (50.5%)
Trump: 69,619,454 votes (47.9%)

TOTAL: 143,102,182 votes, which is 7,602,148 more than 2016 (about 5% more than the last election)

Trump actually gained nearly 2 percentage-points more; about equal to Biden's increase upon Clinton's.
MORE people voted for Trump, not less. Although more people voted, in general, Trump gained
percentage. This is frightening and appalling.

Is our country close to being split 50/50 when it comes to following norms of decency, honesty, justice, and even sanity?
Is our country on the precipice of becoming a nation ruled by an angry mob of hateful, bigoted, vengeful, uniformed fools,
69 million of them and growing?

The country seems more vulnerable than ever for a fascist or, at least, totalitarian take-over.
For me, the results of this election -- even if Biden wins -- is more foreboding than hopeful.

[SheltieLover]

1. Electronic voting

Rove was bragging to someone earlier this month how eady to hack with no trail.

[Hermit-The-Prog]

2. People can't see what those pesky electrons are doing or have been doing.

[Frasier Balzov]

3. A summer of rioting, burning and looting?

To many voters, I think Trump was viewed as being on the opposite side of that.

He was where they sought safety, despite whatever misgivings they had about the threat from nature (i.e., the virus).

[RelativelyJones]

5. I agree. This was a big factor.

[JonLP24]

7. The police stopped a plot to attack the Philly vote counting

That wasn't BLM or Antifa that was Qanon. There is also Alex Jones in Phoenix chanting "Biden for prison".

90+% of the protests are peaceful and BLM is a huge target of misinformation.

Qanon and far right militias scare me.

What about the plot to kidnap Whitmer? That wasn't BLM or Antifa either.

[kurtcagle]

4. A pattern is clearly emerging

In Republican-controlled states, the polls were consistently off by about 4%, but primarily for in-person elections using touch screens. In states where mail-in-ballots were used predominantly, the polls are accurate. I suspected this was the case with the 2016 election as well, not so much because of Clinton but because Congress Dems took such a beating. That McConnell adamantly opposed any election security upgrades from the House confirmed to me that the GOP didn't want ANY investigations into the machines.

There are many problems with touch screen systems. They have modems installed. This means that someone with the right access codes could change the mode of operation. The touch screens can easily be made such that at random intervals a Democratic ballot entry is converted to a Republican ballot entry, without in any way updating the GUI of the system that this has happened. Since there is no audit trail or physical artifact, there's no way to know what was actually stored or sent to the secretary of state. It's a recipe for fraud, and it explains why Dems seem never to win elections that they seemed certain to.

[Dirty Socialist]

6. "Trump is an asshole!"

“That’s GREAT because I’m an asshole too!”

[King_Klonopin]

8. I heard a man in NH literally say this verbatum. Not kidding n/t