HOOOOLEEE SHIT has anyone seen this?

[Zoonart]

As the Minnesota Reformer reports, Minnesota GOP chair Jennifer Carnahan appeared on an invite-only Zoom meeting with Republican activists on Thursday night, and told them that the party would back their play if they made claims of ballot fraud, even if there was no basis for those claims. And Carnahan made it clear she didn’t mean just local support. In fact, she told the Trump activists, this wasn’t a Minnesota thing, but a plan from Republican National Committee chair Ronna McDaniel.

According to Carnahan, McDaniel put out a request for “GOP officials around the country” to recruit Republicans to make false claims of ballot fraud. She made it clear the party would amplify any claims of ballot fraud, as part of a plan to back Trump’s false claims.

*snip*

The Zoom call took place as the numbers in Pennsylvania were shifting rapidly. With Trump’s early lead vanishing as mail-in ballots were added to the totals, and it was clear that Joe Biden was about to tip over the 270 electoral vote threshold. Unknown to Republican officials, a reporter for the Minnesota Reformer became aware of the Zoom call, registered for the meeting, and listened in to the entire appeal.

Attempting to vote multiple times is fraud. Attempting to alter ballots is fraud. Deliberately discarding submitted ballots is fraud. But claiming that election fraud occurred when it did not is also election fraud. And encouraging thousands of activists across the nation to engage in deliberately fraudulent conspiracy puts the RNC and chair Ronna McDaniel at the center of a genuine “vast right-wing conspiracy” that demands to be given swift attention by both state and federal law enforcement.
As the Minnesota Reformer reports, Minnesota GOP chair Jennifer Carnahan appeared on an invite-only Zoom meeting with Republican activists on Thursday night, and told them that the party would back their play if they made claims of ballot fraud, even if there was no basis for those claims. And Carnahan made it clear she didn’t mean just local support. In fact, she told the Trump activists, this wasn’t a Minnesota thing, but a plan from Republican National Committee chair Ronna McDaniel.

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2020/11/6/1993438/-The-RNC-is-recruiting-Republican-activists-across-the-nation-to-make-false-claims-of-election-fraud

[SheltieLover]

1. Lock them up for conspiracy!

And media: please call it game over!

[DownriverDem]

44. Since it's out there

it won't fly.

[malaise]

2. Get thee to the greatest page RFN

to expose these criminals

[Canoe52]

103. Wow, when did the Republican Party become the party of lies?

I’m shocked I tell you, SHOCKED!

[catbyte]

3. I'm not surprised. They all reek of desperation and sedition.

[RVN VET71]

105. and pig sweat, don't forget pig sweat

The Biden DOJ should look into this and, if possible, nail that lying woman and her cronies for election fraud. A righteous God -- if there were one -- would cause Ronna to burst into flames and roast in her own juices.

(Yes, I'm outraged.)

[elleng]

4. 'even if there was no basis for those claims.'

Courts don't let baseless claims pass.

[OriginalGeek]

74. They don't care about courts

They care that a story is out there to rile up the base. They are inciting insurrection.

[JDC]

5. Was the meeting recorded?

[brer cat]

8. Lordy, I hope there are tapes. nt

[WhiskeyGrinder]

93. Go to the actual article instead of something spun by Kos, and you'll find a recording:

https://minnesotareformer.com/2020/11/06/exclusive-mngop-chair-recruiting-minnesota-republicans-to-amplify-trump-claims-of-ballot-fraud/

[JDC]

97. Thanks. Appreciate the link.

[Sentath]

109. And even more specifically, the twitter thread with the audio clips

Link to tweet

[brer cat]

6. Too bad we don't have a functioning DOJ.

They are all tied up with trump's lawsuits.

[Mr.Bill]

23. We will soon. n/t

[SheltieLover]

110. This!👆

[Hoyt]

7. That's fine. They will fail. Maybe it will help them deal with the pain of losing.

[dchill]

9. Dirty deeds...

Dirty deeds and they're done dirt cheap
Concrete shoes, cyanide, TNT
Done dirt cheap
Neckties, contracts, high voltage
Done dirt cheap
Dirty deeds
Do anything you wanna do
Done dirty cheap
Dirty deeds
Dirty deeds
Dirty deeds
Done dirt cheap

[lpbk2713]

10. It's a waste of time and money and it will clog up the courts.

It won't get them anywhere.

[Cracklin Charlie]

11. A Republican named Carnahan?

That’s just wrong.

[2Legit]

34. Right?!

I'm from Missouri where the Carnahan name is big in politics.

[Cracklin Charlie]

41. Same.

Northwest Missouri here.
I was kinda shocked to see that.

[Mike 03]

12. This post needs to be seen by everybody.

[Prince99]

13. I hope Biden is still on for tonight

This is their next move, call to arms and they plan to go to every state and claim fraud. They will concede but they are now coordinating to delegitimize Biden's victory. This will keep Dump in power and control over the party.

We need to move on and take control and play offense now.

[Cracklin Charlie]

45. Let them flail.

They have no legal standing in an election that produced 200 million votes. They can spend all their pennies on trumps lawyers. Trump will fizzle out, or be on trial for his crimes. They can go with him.

We need to work hard together to get this country put back together. Our citizens are hurting. We have many bridges to build (health care, energy, defense, COVID...).

Ps...I am NOT saying trump and company get a pass for their disgusting behavior! Far from it.

[Under The Radar]

14. Typical Republican behavior

Did you know that Reagan and the GOP paid the Iranian government to hold the US hostages until after the 1980 elections which was the main factor in Carter’s Defeat?
https://www.nytimes.com/1991/05/07/world/bani-sadr-in-us-renews-charges-of-1980-deal.html

[Buckeye_Democrat]

30. Yep, and Nixon sabotaged peace talks in Vietnam too.

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/08/06/nixon-vietnam-candidate-conspired-with-foreign-power-win-election-215461

Republicans have been power-hungry sociopaths for decades.

[burrowowl]

42. Nixon and Kissenger

[Dark n Stormy Knight]

79. Yes, but the fact that you have to ask, "Did you know..." about that

just goes to show how successfully RWers, via a coordinated, well-funded propaganda machine, have managed for decades to manipulate the truth. That scandal should be emblazoned on the public consciousnesses. Instead, Reagan is remembered as a Saint, even by some Dems. And Carter, just some weak loser, also by Dems.

Rs have the reputation of being "fiscally conservative," as if that means they're careful with money, when it actually means they're happy to spend, spend, spend, so long as it manages to shovel more wealth & power to rich Republicans, or Dems who may as well be.

Dems can be sleazy, too. There were times when the party was as dirty as the Rs are now. But that party has as little to do with today's Ds as modern Rs have to do with the party of Lincoln.

Rs can't win without lying, cheating, stealing, and even killing, yet they've managed to project their sins onto Dems so convincingly that nearly half the electorate stands rabidly behind a monster like Trump.

[Under The Radar]

81. Being honest, having integrity and character

Is predictable, simple to manipulate and yes considered a weakness by corrupt people.
But can you imagine a world where everyone drove over the speed limit or never obeyed traffic lights and signs? It is complete chaos when a power outage knocks out the traffic lights in my city. We have traffic laws to protect everyone on the road. We have to have government enforce those laws because there is no point in a law if it isn’t enforced. But even with very strenuous enforcement, there will always be those who break those laws. But it is so much better than everyone breaking the rules. Government and life in general is the same way.

[Dark n Stormy Knight]

82. Odd reply to what I said.

Are you arguing with me or agreeing?



Also, regarding your statement that, "Being honest, having integrity and character is predictable, simple to manipulate."

By definition, this is false. Look up integrity, honesty, and character.

[soldierant]

111. I knew about both ...

I knew about Reagan very shortly after it happened, but I didn't find out about Nixon until Ken Burns exposed it.

I realize people forget things, and especially incidents. I feel there's no excuse for forgetting about a trend ... but most people don't seem to realize a trend is a trend until it's too late. Can't we do somethng to help this stuff get memorable?

[Dark n Stormy Knight]

113. It's all about the propaganda.

The RW propaganda apparatus is on-going, well-funded, expertly executed, and shameless and therefore very powerful at making a huge swath of people believe the BS story they're telling.

Two facts seal the deal:

1. The first thing a cult makes you believe is that everyone else is lying to you.

2. It's much easier to fool someone than to convince them they've been fooled.

[soldierant]

114. We have the capability to sound like a broken record too

but if we don't use it, we might as well not have it.

[Midnight Writer]

15. Quick! Call the Attorney General right away! He has to be notified of this!

[Trailrider1951]

16. The GOP is a criminal organization. They will lie, cheat and steal to

maintain their power and money. They don't care about our country, her people or ANYTHING other than themselves. Joe's new Dept. of Justice needs to RICO the entire lot of them.

[trueblue2007]

46. MOSCOW MITCH IS A TRAITOR, HE ONLY WANTS TO HELP DONALD RUMP.

[diva77]

17. If they impounded the machines & memory sticks and had Harry Hursti conduct an investigation they

might get some answers -- but they'll never do that cuz they're afraid of what those answers might be.

[BainsBane]

18. figures

No conscience or sense of decency whatsoever.

[dflprincess]

19. She's married to Jim Hagedorn the rep in

Minnesota's 1st Congressional District. Per recent news reports he has indulged in behaviors that are ethically questionable. Two years ago he was nearly defeated by Dan Feehan, an excellent candidate. Feehan ran again this year and was defeated by a larger margin. Of course, thus year there was a third party candidste, a trick the Republicans pulled around the state to siphon votes fr9m Democrats.

Not surprised that Jennifer is pulling this.

[Etherealoc1]

20. Get this out to the NETWORKS ASAP!!

[SunSeeker]

21. K & R for exposure.

[The Figment]

22. I just sent Rachel Maddow an email with a link to the Reformers story on this

I suggest everyone here do this too.
Here's her email address...

[e-mail]

[Zoonart]

25. Over the transom....

Forgot all about that. THANK YOU.

[Cha]

29. TY!

[Etherealoc1]

56. Great work!

[wnylib]

68. Send it to Huffpost, too. They are always

asking for news bits from their website readers.

[Hermit-The-Prog]

24. Would this constitute major fraud against the U.S.? ...

Whole lot of money involved in grabbing Executive office.

18 U.S. Code § 1031. Major fraud against the United States

[Alliepoo]

26. And by jinkies! Ronna and her big ol' nasty face

Was on OAN this afternoon doing exactly this! Mr Poo said he wanted to see what the other side was saying, that’s why I happened to catch her press conference. What she was spewing today was this.

[occupant]

40. Gov De Shitus

Florida Gov Ron De Shitus was ranting about this very thing on TV today too...

[wnylib]

69. Amy Klobuchar must be aware of this

if it's known in Minnesota. Hope Biden is made aware and addresses it publicly. Or one of his spokespersons.

It needs a wider audience than Maddow. What about the NYT and Washington Post?

[Cha]

27. Fucking Cockroaches.

[Dukkha]

28. It's not widespread election fraud

when Republicans do it.

[fierywoman]

31. Bring back the fucking guillotine. This is treason.

[FeelingBlue]

32. The FBI should be notified. NT

[leftyladyfrommo]

33. Thete is no low for these people. There are no ethics

no morals, no laws.

[KPN]

35. Fucking pathetic bigots in panic over America being

a land where all people are created equal.

[dflprincess]

52. And what's sad is

Carnahan is of Korean descent. Given the problems Trump has caused for Asian Americans you'd think she'd hate him.

[mdbl]

89. I don't expect anything less from Repug behavior

I also expect our legal system to deal with them.

[Hassler]

36. I'm sure AG Keith Ellison will have a blast investigating.

[58Sunliner]

37. A bunch of lying, cheating, traitors.

[rainin]

38. Zoom calls can be recorded. Where's the recording?

In Texas, the law allows for one party permission. I'm sure other states do, too.

[Zoonart]

39. You will have to ask the Minnesota Reporter newspaper.

Pretty certain they would not put it out there if they could not prove it.
Reporters record pretty much everything these days.

[rainin]

66. I don't distrust it. I just want the recording to be out for all to hear.

Maybe Rachel will get the recording.

[Zoonart]

67. Stay chilly.

[WhiskeyGrinder]

94. In the article by the Reformer.

https://minnesotareformer.com/2020/11/06/exclusive-mngop-chair-recruiting-minnesota-republicans-to-amplify-trump-claims-of-ballot-fraud/

[rainin]

99. This is scary stuff. I hope our leaders are ready for this.

[TygrBright]

43. Minnesota Republicans are like Illinois Nazis...

...they have always been opportunistic greedy weasels.

I remember when the "Republican" brand was so damaged by Nixon (my, doesn't THAT seem quaint in hindsight? Those were certainly different times... or maybe a different universe...) that Minnesota Republicans did a poll and found out more people would vote "Independent" than "Republican."

So they changed the name of the Party to "Independent Republican".

Same weasels, then and now.

dismissively,
Bright

[warmfeet]

47. This is what we face, all Democrats.

Please keep that in mind.

Republicans are not the party of following rules or laws.

They are the party of power at all cost. They will never disappoint in this regard.

Reaching across the isle will result in a severed hand for the Democrat and lunch for the republican.

Don't believe me? Just watch.

[Useless in FL]

49. THIS!

Power at all costs...

[uponit7771]

57. +1

[amuse bouche]

48. I hate Republicans

[marble falls]

51. They think its all a big joke, some kind of game where anything goes, winner takes all.

[Renew Deal]

53. That matches up with a Fox interview she did...

“We have seen a lot of irregularities, Bret,” she told [Fox News] anchor Bret Baier, claiming that in Michigan, where the Trump campaign is pushing for a recount, “we’ve been pursuing reports coming in on our hotline, people who were disenfranchised from observing the vote count and some more serious allegations that we’re seeing.”

“We agree with you and we want to look into everything as well. But we just haven’t seen it. It hasn’t been presented,” Baier pointed out. “There’s all kinds of stuff flying on the internet, but when we look into it, it doesn’t pan out.”
Baier continued to push back on McDaniel’s claims, asking whether the country was “going to see” specific allegations of fraud. “You know Bret, we’re working on that. And that’s why I’m saying, give us time,” she said.
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2020/11/donald-trump-no-concession

Looks like she wants to run a subversive scam against the nation.

[Zoonart]

54. Always saying the quiet part out loud.

[kairos12]

55. GITMO all of them.

[bucolic_frolic]

58. Totally expected following today's posturing

Lindsey appearing to be ok with Biden's cabinet

Trump announcing he wants all ballots counted for "democracy"

Kudlow assuring a peaceful transfer of power

and everyone focusing on ballot counts and when the media will finally call it

Don't read their lips, watch their actions

This is the same as Mitch vowing Obama would be a one term president, or snuffing the Merrick Garland nomination

[LNM]

59. and her husband Hagedorn just won re-election.nt

[czarjak]

60. Cheating begets cheating...

Any means necessary.

[Baked Potato]

61. This seems to be outright Ratfucking.

[Zoonart]

62. Doesn't it?

[gristy]

63. Sounds like a criminal conspiracy to me

Witnessed by the reporter. Hopefully he got a legal recording too.

[wnylib]

70. Sounds like an effin' coup to me.

[WhiskeyGrinder]

95. The reporter included it in his article.

https://minnesotareformer.com/2020/11/06/exclusive-mngop-chair-recruiting-minnesota-republicans-to-amplify-trump-claims-of-ballot-fraud/

[BobTheSubgenius]

64. A good time to buy futures.

Anyone know anything about orange jumpsuit speculating?

[Ohioboy]

65. I hope there are recordings

[WhiskeyGrinder]

96. You can listen to a recording of the call on the website of the outlet that did the reporting:

https://minnesotareformer.com/2020/11/06/exclusive-mngop-chair-recruiting-minnesota-republicans-to-amplify-trump-claims-of-ballot-fraud/

[sandensea]

71. The Salem witch tactic: A Republican favorite

This is obviously the best CoRonna McDaniel and the rest of the goons could come up with.

[Lucinda]

72. KNR

[DLCWIdem]

73. Rachel is out with Covid testing. maybe send it to Chris Hayes

[ucrdem]

75. I hope Joe makes HRC attorney general

so she can finally reward the VRWC for its many years of devoted service to the Clinton family.

[Zoonart]

76. That would be epic.

[Baitball Blogger]

77. There must be a response to these obvious abuses, or our entire country

is going to devolve!

[DFW]

78. How long before she claims she was "quoted out of context?"

Well, yes, I talked about committing electoral fraud to help out our desperate situation, but I only meant it as a "what if" theoretical notion. I didn't mean for people to actually go out and do what I was telling them to do.

[rpannier]

80. Color me not surprised

The republikkan party should probably be charged under RICO statutes

[bdamomma]

83. K&R

nt

[genxlib]

84. Am I the only one that is skeptical

I see a single reporter from an outlet I have never heard of making this claim based on what they say they heard. Granted, I am in a completely different part of the country so maybe I am just out of the loop. But this just seems a bit tenuous without something to back it up.

What am I missing?

[roscoeroscoe]

90. The RNC Chair

Was all over right wing TV with vague claims Friday

[genxlib]

91. That I know

And I have no doubt that she will gladly except any pile of poo that she can fling around without any care whether it is true or not.

But I mean this particular accusation that they were openly soliciting such fraudulent claims

[WhiskeyGrinder]

92. You haven't heard of it because it's a relatively new outfit. There are a lot of new digital-only

news outlets nowadays, as veteran reporters take buyouts from legacy media and then look for ways to continue working. The names at the Reformer are well-known to newshounds in Minnesota. Unfortunately, the article from the Daily Kos doesn't include the audio from the phone call, but if you go to the Reformer website, it's right there:

https://minnesotareformer.com/2020/11/06/exclusive-mngop-chair-recruiting-minnesota-republicans-to-amplify-trump-claims-of-ballot-fraud/

[genxlib]

98. If they have the audio

And it actually says what they say it does, then that is a whole different ball game.

I will check it out. Thank you for that very important clarification.

[usaf-vet]

85. If this is true and I have no doubt it could be Biden's new AG should round them all up and

... establish a grand jury get them to testify under oath and jail each and every one.

This shit has to stop.

It will only stop if there is a punishment dealt out to all who are found guilty.

Why does the majority of the county file their taxes by April 15th? BECAUSE we know there is a penalty to pay if we don't.

[TigressDem]

86. How else COULD they win? Cheating is the only option. nt

[Blue Owl]

87. Uh Oh

Looks like the MNGOP did a bad, bad thing...

[SleeplessinSoCal]

88. Hope Biden/Harris lawyers get on this.

At the very least it could be held as a cudgel til "It" concedes.

[Newest Reality]

100. The Trump Trance

The Trump Trance cultists are swirling around the leader.

You know, we have MANY pressing issues and they seem to be losing the narrative completely. Governing is to deal with our issues and respond to problems, not to fawn and practice idol worship.

We have a pandemic and economic crisis to tackle, as if they cared.

[malaise]

101. Should be getting way more coverage in the media

Lock up these criminals

[Zoonart]

102. Looks like there will be no oxygen for anything in the news until this race is called.

[zaj]

104. This is very misleading.

They aren't *making* claims, they are echoing existing (false) claims.

[rsdsharp]

106. The legal term for this is subornation of perjury.

[McCamy Taylor]

107. This is conspiracy, a crime.

[LymphocyteLover]

108. We seriously need prosecutions for this shit!

[DLCWIdem]

112. K & R