I've gotta give Joe Scarborough props for calling out all the network Decision Desks for not calling

[catbyte]

Pennsylvania. He says the networks are doing it to not upset Dear Leader and it's unconscionable because it's fomenting unrest. He's right.

[malaise]

1. Agree - this is over

[Just_Vote_Dem]

2. Glad to hear the truth from Joe

MSM kowtowing to Repubs as usual

[SPDem]

3. Yep. They need to end this.

I hope they have to answer for this some day soon.

[XanaDUer2]

4. I agree

w what are they worried he'll do?

[TrishaJ]

21. I'm thinking that, too.

Perhaps it's a consolidated effort to get the security in place to protect the public from the terrorism that could occur in the aftermath of declaring Biden the winner?

[coti]

33. Probably nothing specific, he's just beaten them

into submission. You can csll it training, manipulation, grooming, etc.

[Ilsa]

5. Yeah. End it already.

There's nothing left, especially, when 80% of military mail-in votes go Democratic.

[treestar]

6. I just heard that

and was thinking how DU would forgive him for a while.

Good point about the focus on Florida on election night. With broader coverage it would not have seemed so iffy.

And the point about the legislatures in WI and MI trying to help Dotard. Making it appear unsettled would help his lawsuits, they might be thinking. And give an air of illegitimacy to a Biden election.

And the excuse it has to be beyond a recount trigger is no good. Recounts were held after states were called in 2016 and likely before.

[catbyte]

10. Well, even a broken clock is right twice a day. 😂

Hey, if someone speaks the truth these days, you gotta give them credit.

[Tommymac]

26. +1 I thought the same thing lol

[True Blue American]

48. Joe gets no credit from me!

He and Mika helped give us this monster for 4 years having their dear Friend, Donny on the phone day after day, long after other networks cut him off.

They only turned on him when he exposed their affair and Mika’s bloody face lift. No changing their History.

[whistler162]

7. Mika needs to tell him to chill relax breath

[sheilahi]

41. stfu monologue joe

Yeah, and Mika also should tell him to stfu on his 10 hour monologues so we might be able to hear what his guests are trying to say. Why does he even have guests on his show if he makes it all about him? Last nerve gotten on .

[DeminPennswoods]

8. He should certainly know what's going on

at MSNBC's election coverage.

[cwydro]

9. Yay Joe.

Good to hear that.

I’m sick of the coverage; they’re simply repeating the same crap over and over.

[nupe183]

11. I have to agree...

...because if the roles were reversed and the Whiner-in-Chief had been in the lead for this long they would have called it for him by now.

[gopiscrap]

55. welcome to DU

[Pacifist Patriot]

12. I don't normally watch television, but caught that.

Found myself nodding along vigorously and then looked up and saw it was Joe. He's not wrong. It's blatantly obvious PA should be called....and should have been called yesterday.

[bucolic_frolic]

13. I suspect there are other reasons

Ratings, investigations, reputation, public safety.

Reputation? Fox is out there. They called ... either AZ or NV already. Every other network would like them to be wrong, and no one wants to be there with them. And all are content with Fox making the call so Trump sees it there first. Fox will take the hit that way.

[AllaN01Bear]

14. i figured that the non liberal news.orgs were waiting to hand this to trump.

as the up posters say , its over . give it up.

[Windy City Charlie]

15. What I think

I'm thinking they're afraid one of Trump's challenges will be successful that would reverse the call. So, maybe once they realize Trump has exhausted his challenges, they'll call it. Which, if that's the case, Trump could keep filing challenges to hold things at bay.

[tavernier]

16. If fox calls it that will be a knife in his heart.

However, that’s his least vulnerable organ.

[I_UndergroundPanther]

19. Wish I could call it

And I'd like a camera to watch his reaction...

[Buckeyeblue]

17. Everything he said was right. PA and NV should have been called last night

[Captain Zero]

43. Surely they have an outer limit that they will call it? One week?

I think the Law of large numbers has come into play as well. At this point the margin may narrow or expand slightly but it will not flip back to Trump.

[Buckeyeblue]

49. Right. At a certain point enough enough especially if the returns are consistent

[groundloop]

18. I've rarely watched Joe until now, and IMO he's been pretty good.

I know he's caught a lot of heat here, and I just never have a TV turned on in the morning so have never really had an opportunity to judge for myself. But really, as far as this election coverage has been, I feel like he's doing as good a job as possible while remaining fair.

[Windy City Charlie]

22. And he's right

They keep moving the goalpost on how large Biden's lead has to be in Pennsylvania in order for it to be called.

[Captain Zero]

44. Of the precincts they have counted they should analyze from smallest to largest

and graph a line for each candidate, and see what the difference is. Law of large numbers says it will not change much once the lines level out.

[grantcart]

50. I started to listen to his show 6 months ago and is consistently one of the best

No one has used the word "Fascist" more to describe Trump.

His warning on letting one part of the party to take over the brand for the entire party is also correct.

He was right about the polls, Senate projections and our lead in the House.

[spanone]

20. So why hasn't HIS NETWORK CALLED IT?

[AngryOldDem]

25. In all their pretzel logic rationalizations, I've not heard a straight answer to this question.

[Statistical]

27. Got to sell those ads and hopefully someone else will call it first because they are afraid of Dump

[Tommymac]

29. Because they are afraid to lose viewers since they are the only 'Liberal' Network

That's my opinion.

The Decision Desk's are cowards.

And the network is owned by a Big Media Cartel...I'm sure that high level corporate suits want to milk this for all $$ they can. They give a shit about the morality of it or how they are lessening the security of Our Nation.

[Blue_playwright]

23. Yup.

I don’t quite get the reasoning. Unless they feel if there are *any* errors in calling a state, the Tangerine Menace will use it to attempt a fumbling coup?

[AngryOldDem]

24. At times he has the best snark.

“We can say with some certainty that the nominee of the 1976 Republican National Convention is Gerald R. Ford.”

Everybody is getting sick of this shit —including those who have maybe gotten a grand total of 12 hours’ sleep since Monday.

[Lonestarblue]

28. The media needs to call this now and put a stop to Trump's claim that he's winning.

It also sends a signal to the SC and other courts that the election is over. Trump will still file his lawsuits, but he has no evidence of fraud.

Nevada still sits at 93% counted, but Biden has the highest lead in that state. The others are at 96, 97, and 98 percent. Does it have to be at 100% now for networks to call a projected winner when in the past they’ve called races with far lower votes counted rates based on the trends. As throughout his presidency, media is giving an amazing amount of deference to a man whose every action is corrupt.

[Texin]

30. It's excruciating, but it's got to feel like Chinese water torture to tRump.

Not that I give a shit about what he feels.

[honest.abe]

31. Yeah, he is clearly disturbed by the delay in making the call.

I totally agree with him. It makes zero sense now at this point.

[phylny]

32. Yes.

Chyron: BREAKING NEWS: AWAITING RESULTS IN KEY BATTLEGROUNDS.

BREAKING: I'M GONNA TAKE A SHOWER, GUYS. LET ME KNOW IF THIS CHANGES.

[Windy City Charlie]

34. What's funny

What's funny, it's as if they can detect when people are tuning out....because suddenly one of them will say "We've got some big news that's come in!"

[leighbythesea2]

35. Never watch Joe

But i see what hes saying. Its strange, my mom has tv on constantly yet i havent watched cnn for a few hours straight in years. Get my news at online news sites.

I was struck by how much, and many times they kept saying "and explain again Don why the mail in ballots are skewing blue"....sigh. its like they are coddling the viewers who voted red. ?
They dont want to call, then rescind anything. The fake news cry ringing in their ears. Thats gonna happen potentially with recounts.
It reminded just how far we've been dragged into the ditch.
Do you remember Jon Stewart saying every 4 years topics like gay marriage put forth ad nauseam, by the right woukd drag us over into/onto the shoulder?
The cry of fake news has become that. The networks know it. They're going to be some kind of battle cry for gop go, forward. They're babying everyone, now.
Don't forget they have to go back to both siderism with a repub senate for 2021, in about a week.

[Dream Girl]

36. Something's up.

[Smackdown2019]

47. I agree

Trump packing up to head to the golf course and new batch of counts will be coming in within a couple of hours.... expect the calls to ring across the nation.... this will most like it....

[d_b]

37. They want 100% reporting

What they don’t want is Giuliani showing up with a wheelbarrow of Trump ballots they found at ANTIFA headquarters. Maybe that’s the idea.

[3825-87867]

38. Sunday is MORE important

The media will call the ball today BECAUSE Sunday is FOOTBALL!
And they can't lose that ad money!

[mahannah]

39. Nonsense.

[machoneman]

40. Why not call it? When near 50% of all voters went red, they are afraid of losing viewers. I'm....

shocked so many did so after all the tragic, ill-fated, mean and plain stupid moves by Trumpy. Even in defeat, Joe will have a tough time trying, and likely failing, to unite our deeply divided country.

Good news? We can work said divisions to our favor. Just as the R-Scums worked hard to get Jill Stein, Kanye West and others to divide us, we can play the same game. Encourage Trumpers to form a third party, pay new candidates to form a third party under the guise of their rejection of both parties. Work hard to peel away rednecks in red states that live near the blue collar counties. TX needs more work while just keeping a presence in FL ( a loser for us for a long time to come) to keep them honest, as if they ever were! Work a lot harder to wrest control of state legislatures and governorships. We're way to weak here.

I could go on but......play their game and defeat more R-Scums in the 2022 election cycle.

[Windy City Charlie]

42. I'm sensing

I'm sensing that the media is ready for this to end, but they're not getting anything new from the states. Joe Scarborough and Kornacke are starting to sound fed up with the whole thing. Kornacke is still wearing the same pants since Tuesday night, so he probably hasn't been home since then.

[txwhitedove]

45. Mmm, I thought blaming MSM/networks/journalists was a tRump & Republican thing.

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As soon as Scarborough smelled blood in the water, he went back to bashing Democrats. I've watched dedicated news interviews and research on why this is taking so long: more mail in ballots than ever before due to pandemic, provisional ballots, it's not the same as 2016 and they know to be scrupulous. The whole world is waiting. The tRump lawsuits and challenges have slowed counting down at times, and hell he's too litigious anyway. If our soon to be President Elect Joe Biden can show patience and wait for due process, then I can too. My fireworks are ready.

[TheDemsshouldhireme]

46. Just another example of the bully effect

Trump has on everything. We know the final vote totals for Trump in 16, but what were they at the time they called it? i guess we cant call an election for a democrat until any chance Trump has is down to zero. If Biden went up by a 100,000 and there were a 100,000 provisional ballots left we would have to wait and see if Trump got 100 percent of them. This is bordering on lunacy. Also Nevada needs to pick up the pace and PA has stick to schedules when they say ahead of time they are going to release vote numbers.

[TNNurse]

51. I disagree.

PA has until the 12th to count all ballots. Anything before that give those assholes ammuntion to challenge the result.

We are spoiled to immediate results. The point is to have no basis for refuting Biden's win.

We want Biden and his team to be getting on with plans and not have to work with legal stress.

[RVN VET71]

52. Has Scarborough had a genuine road to Damascus event?

He seems sincere and credible, but is he still the same man who suggested that you could not be a patriot if you didn't back the Commander in Chief when he took us to an immoral, illegal, and unwindable war in Iraq?

Maybe Mika and her father, Zbigniew, managed to bathe him in the waters of truth and light?

[lapucelle]

54. Joe came as close to apologizing to Hillary Clinton for his post-2016 election mansplaining

and blame-throwing as he ever has before. I was surprised.