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LymphocyteLover

(5,644 posts)
Sat Nov 7, 2020, 09:54 AM Nov 2020

Joe Biden is going to inherit an economy is deep recession. The GOP is going to spend the next 2 yrs

up to the midterms hamstringing Biden and blaming the poor economy and the massive govt debt on Biden.

I'm sure one reason Republicans in office aren't fighting harder for Trump right now is they think strategically, having Biden in there now to clean up the mess helps them. And they can organize against him for the next election.

These people are endlessly crooked and destructive and we have to organize even harder to make sure we win seats in 2022, not lose them. The map is very good in 2022 for Dems to pick up Senate seats and we have to do this to ever have a chance of big change. The GOP knows this and will use Biden as a foil to keep power.

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Joe Biden is going to inherit an economy is deep recession. The GOP is going to spend the next 2 yrs (Original Post) LymphocyteLover Nov 2020 OP
We need a massive tax on the highest income levels. They've been welfare queens living Squinch Nov 2020 #1
Is this party North Shore Chicago Nov 2020 #2
they've defnitely gotten worse since then LymphocyteLover Nov 2020 #4
True, but Joe's been there, and he's done that... ECSkeptic Nov 2020 #3
yeah, but he had a Dem Senate. I so hope we can win the Senate with the remaining races. LymphocyteLover Nov 2020 #6
Tax all the trading on Wall Street MacKasey Nov 2020 #5
For once .... LenaBaby61 Nov 2020 #7
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Nov 2020 #8
yes, absolutely! LymphocyteLover Nov 2020 #13
Advice to Pres. Biden: lastlib Nov 2020 #9
And we need to get out ahead of this, and start accusing them of this right now!! BComplex Nov 2020 #10
Yep-- we HAVE to get better at geting our message out especially to the other side LymphocyteLover Nov 2020 #12
I really don't think there would BE another side, if we got our message out. BComplex Nov 2020 #14
Right??? That's what I keep thinking. I mean, there can be some differences on the margins LymphocyteLover Nov 2020 #15
"besides the richest most selfish assholes" BComplex Nov 2020 #17
Take Care of the People First !!! Baked Potato Nov 2020 #11
Joe just inherited the hardest job in the world. We need to all standy by him for the next 2 years. Mr. Sparkle Nov 2020 #16
Win those two GA Senate seats and we can pass almost anything we want through reconciliation. W_HAMILTON Nov 2020 #18
As usual, Jamaal510 Nov 2020 #19
All of this up here 👆🏻👆🏻👆🏻 LenaBaby61 Nov 2020 #21
Cleanup on aisle 45. phylny Nov 2020 #20

Squinch

(50,949 posts)
1. We need a massive tax on the highest income levels. They've been welfare queens living
Sat Nov 7, 2020, 09:59 AM
Nov 2020

on the public teat for long enough.

LymphocyteLover

(5,644 posts)
4. they've defnitely gotten worse since then
Sat Nov 7, 2020, 10:02 AM
Nov 2020

Nixon was bad of course, but there were a lot of decent Republicans. Now they are all far right zealots.

ECSkeptic

(62 posts)
3. True, but Joe's been there, and he's done that...
Sat Nov 7, 2020, 10:01 AM
Nov 2020

...and helped turn it into the longest stretch of job growth in the nation's history.

LenaBaby61

(6,974 posts)
7. For once ....
Sat Nov 7, 2020, 10:11 AM
Nov 2020
Dems have to NOT allow thuglicans to blame a bad economy on THEM for the zillionth time.


IF I was Biden, I'd start during my state of the union address outlining how badly the economy turned becasue of the tax cuts for the rich, and becasue of fatso's mishandling of Covid-19. Hell, the economy was already sinking BEFORE covid-19 came. You see some in the 'liberal' media are already calling for Biden to reach out to thuglicans because he was in the senate once and gets it. Uh, earth to the 'liberal' media, there is NO working with MoscowMitch, Lying Lindsey, Gym Jordan Rant Paul or the other lying, racist, right-winged, I hate big government unless it's rethugs big government treasonous dirt/gas bags over there on the other side of the isle.

MoscowMitch already said that he's going to block Biden on whatever it is he indends to do, and also 'help' him out with what kinds of justices HE wants Dems/Biden to put onto the Supreme Court. I believe Moscow said 'very moderate' justices 🙄

Joe and Dems, don't let thuglicans roll you on the economy. Get out in front of it, use charts if you have to, and put the blame squarely on budget-busting thuglicans where it belongs.

Response to LenaBaby61 (Reply #7)

lastlib

(23,226 posts)
9. Advice to Pres. Biden:
Sat Nov 7, 2020, 10:39 AM
Nov 2020

"Never extend your hand to a rabid dog unless you are prepared to CLUB IT into submission. (You can substitute 'republikan' for 'rabid dog' and it still applies.)"

BComplex

(8,051 posts)
10. And we need to get out ahead of this, and start accusing them of this right now!!
Sat Nov 7, 2020, 10:42 AM
Nov 2020

We need to make sure they don't get the first word. Same thing happened with Obama/Biden. They inherited the second worse mess in the history of the country, and turned that pile of shit into a pile of gold.

Democrats need to learn the art of telling it like it is, even though it SHOULD BE OBVIOUS to anyone with two brain cells to rub together.

BComplex

(8,051 posts)
14. I really don't think there would BE another side, if we got our message out.
Sat Nov 7, 2020, 01:48 PM
Nov 2020

What's not to love about our message?

LymphocyteLover

(5,644 posts)
15. Right??? That's what I keep thinking. I mean, there can be some differences on the margins
Sat Nov 7, 2020, 01:50 PM
Nov 2020

but who, besides the richest most selfish assholes, really doesn't like our basic platform?

BComplex

(8,051 posts)
17. "besides the richest most selfish assholes"
Sat Nov 7, 2020, 01:52 PM
Nov 2020

unfortunately, the spend a lot of their money trashing and twisting our message.

W_HAMILTON

(7,866 posts)
18. Win those two GA Senate seats and we can pass almost anything we want through reconciliation.
Sat Nov 7, 2020, 01:52 PM
Nov 2020

Quite being a perpetually pessimistic Democrat and instead work to win those two seats, will ya?

Jamaal510

(10,893 posts)
19. As usual,
Sat Nov 7, 2020, 01:58 PM
Nov 2020

it'll be up to a Democratic administration to clean up a GOP mess. I just hope that voters on our side won't grow impatient this time like what happened with Obama after his first 2 years. We won this battle, but the war against Trumpism is far from over.

LenaBaby61

(6,974 posts)
21. All of this up here 👆🏻👆🏻👆🏻
Sat Nov 7, 2020, 08:21 PM
Nov 2020

What worries me is that you have this drip, drip, drip, in the 'so called' liberal media saying that Joe has to reach out to THEM, to thuglicans like moscowmitch who stopped the stimulus package because he wanted to put his evil handmaiden onto the supreme court. He doesn't give one fuck about people suffering, with 238K DEAD from Carona-19. After all these years it's FACT that you can't work with moscowmitch whose craven, racist, treasonous, greedy and worse. You just can't. Neither can you work with Collins, Rant paul, Gym Jordan, tom Cotton, and you know the rest of their bunch. I keep hearing "Joe is a nice guy and can work with them--give a little, get a little." News to the liberal media, we don't have fucking much to give--we're bankrupted up to the eyeballs in the trillions because of the GOP/tRump and their tax cuts. We have no infrastructure, covid-19 is eating our lunch (238K DEAD and continuing), the economy is a shit sandwich. Yet, some the media are going soft on this son of a bit, saying give him time and space.

Joe can remain nice and kind and there's nothing wrong with that. He has heart, cares for others and has the deepest of empathy's ever. He's gone through a lot in life, and knows the feeling and shares his soul with others. But I'm praying he stays strong and tough against these jackals and doesn't make too many of those deals and remembers to check thuglicans in public when they fuck up. These thugilicans are not like those old ones from even 15 years ago. Dems MUST have consistent messaging and keep reminding the people that were in this spot because of those assholes, and that we have a mandate to do what we have to because we have deficits up to our eyeballs, no infrastructure and people are dying from Covid-19, jobless, and now homeless and suffering. Also, the ACA has to be kept with pre-existing and expanded on. These thuglicans are nasty, evil and will LIE and say Dems are big-spending and it's their fault. Dems somehow and let fatso get away with murder (Covid-19) literally. I'm for reaching out to them in public so EVERYONE can see that I tried, but they weren't having it. But, if Dems get the Senate seats they need to have an advantage over those thuglicans use it, tell the people why you had to go the way you did ... NONE of the thuglicans save Jeb Bush & Romney, even reached out to Joe congratulated Joe on his presidential win today. Hopefully he remembers to be TOUGH as nails, and doesn't buddy around with them. We're in trouble. Deep trouble and Biden/Kamala have a lot to try to clean up. Unfortunately, the corporate media will stay on him/Kamala if it takes too long, and that's another thing, Joe has to let the American people know that all he intends to try to do is going to take a WHILE, and if he has to, pivot to thuglicans if he doesn't get the Senate and tell the American people that Mitch et al aren't cooperating.

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