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IowaGuy

(778 posts)
Sat Nov 7, 2020, 01:36 PM Nov 2020

How to control Mcconnell?????

Just spitballin' here. Clearly we have to politically put him in a box or he is just going to be going back to the delay obstruct playbook.
What if Joe publishes a plan to move the functions of the military bases in Kentucky to other states and close those Kentucky bases.
Call it the Mcconnell/Paul plan. Hang it around their neck.

Most of military brass probably wouldn't mind too much. They spend too much money on just keeping bases open they don't want or need. They would rather spend the money on weapons systems..sweeten the pot for the military by giving them a few more coins. Make the plan where there is a choice between moving to another red state or blue state. Divide and conquer. It will also strike fear into other Rethugs that their own pork will be threatened. The Senators clearly respond to fear...look at the last 4 years. Not exactly profiles in courage.

We got to play hardball with this MF. Any thoughts or other ideas?

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How to control Mcconnell????? (Original Post) IowaGuy Nov 2020 OP
Win the two GA runoffs. Try to peel off Romney and Sasse and others spooky3 Nov 2020 #1
Yep. I'm a little perturbed at hearing so much talk about McConnell. W_HAMILTON Nov 2020 #10
I like your attitude, however... IowaGuy Nov 2020 #29
If we win control of the Senate, we can get through any appointee we want... W_HAMILTON Nov 2020 #31
Unfortunately wryter2000 Nov 2020 #13
I like that too, but she did (probably through bribery) vote to confirm Barrett. Nt spooky3 Nov 2020 #17
We know that is what he will do, unless.... IowaGuy Nov 2020 #25
Win in GA, remove the virtual filibuster. joshcryer Nov 2020 #36
Win two seats in Georgia in January. n/t rzemanfl Nov 2020 #2
JON OSSOFF AND RAPHAEL WARNOCK!! nt blaze Nov 2020 #3
+1 ffr Nov 2020 #24
Georgia Lokee11 Nov 2020 #4
Georgia went for Biden WonderGrunion Nov 2020 #5
He's up to his eyeballs in shady Russian and Chinese money. meadowlander Nov 2020 #6
Like it (nt) IowaGuy Nov 2020 #21
My idea wryter2000 Nov 2020 #7
We already have 2 independents True Blue American Nov 2020 #16
So, we'd have three wryter2000 Nov 2020 #33
Didn't the Republicans True Blue American Nov 2020 #35
She lost the primary to a tea bagger wryter2000 Nov 2020 #38
Great news! True Blue American Nov 2020 #40
We have to do both wryter2000 Nov 2020 #41
You are posting to another! True Blue American Nov 2020 #42
I'm not real crazy about giving Murkowski that much power, IowaGuy Nov 2020 #27
Dig the dirt on his wife. There is plenty. boston bean Nov 2020 #8
Yup!! (nt) IowaGuy Nov 2020 #20
Elaine is gone from the cabinet now. True Blue American Nov 2020 #37
Investigate and indict his wife. DeminPennswoods Nov 2020 #9
Georgia Georgia Georgia. Jan 5 2021 - Senate run-offs... Lets get busy! :)))) halobeam Nov 2020 #11
This JCMach1 Nov 2020 #14
If we can win True Blue American Nov 2020 #12
investigate criminal activity tie to him DBoon Nov 2020 #15
You probably got something there, should probably pull on that thread. IowaGuy Nov 2020 #19
Seeing some good ideas....pinning all our hopes on winning the Senate IowaGuy Nov 2020 #18
My vote is for a cattle prod convincer Cartaphelius Nov 2020 #22
Move Fort Knox to a blue state? House of Roberts Nov 2020 #23
It's now training/hr as its primary purpose Roland99 Nov 2020 #44
Actually, locals always get tripped out when there is a threat of their base closing.... IowaGuy Nov 2020 #46
Keep Chao as Sec of Transportation Bad Thoughts Nov 2020 #26
That's an interesting idea DeminPennswoods Nov 2020 #28
That's some 4D chess thinking, makes her immediately available for Congress subpoenas IowaGuy Nov 2020 #32
Win the senate races in Georgia In It to Win It Nov 2020 #30
Crawl up his ass with a microscope and publish everything out of place. WyattKansas Nov 2020 #34
333 Indictments, 50 congressional investigations, fire his wife. MyNameGoesHere Nov 2020 #39
Hypnotism or blackmail? Ilsa Nov 2020 #43
Work your ossoff for Ossoff and Warnock!! Sogo Nov 2020 #45
Convince Trump the GOP Senators let him down Generic Brad Nov 2020 #47
LOL...like it IowaGuy Nov 2020 #49
Wedge issues him for short term Prince99 Nov 2020 #48
Good thought...I like it. IowaGuy Nov 2020 #50
A lot of these replies are focusing on getting 50 Senators in the DEM caucus.... IowaGuy Nov 2020 #51

W_HAMILTON

(7,864 posts)
10. Yep. I'm a little perturbed at hearing so much talk about McConnell.
Sat Nov 7, 2020, 01:39 PM
Nov 2020

The Senate is still up for grabs.

We have the chance to make McConnell the leader of the minority, if they even bother to stick with him if he and his Republicans lose control.

Let's focus on that.

Republicans went into Election Night with the presidency and the Senate.

The leave Election Night without the presidency and the Senate still undecided.

Focus on that and let's win those two Senate seats in BLUE Georgia!

IowaGuy

(778 posts)
29. I like your attitude, however...
Sat Nov 7, 2020, 02:04 PM
Nov 2020

no matter what, Mconnell is still going to be there and we will have to deal with his crap one way or another. He's a poo flingin' monkey and we need to mitigate that in any way possible.

W_HAMILTON

(7,864 posts)
31. If we win control of the Senate, we can get through any appointee we want...
Sat Nov 7, 2020, 02:08 PM
Nov 2020

...any court nominee we want, any Supreme Court nominee we want, and pass most anything we want through reconciliation.

wryter2000

(46,042 posts)
13. Unfortunately
Sat Nov 7, 2020, 01:40 PM
Nov 2020

McConnell can refuse to bring things to a vote, so trying to get R votes for bills may not work. Get a R to switch to Dem or Independent caucusing with Dems. My candidate is Lisa Murkowski.

IowaGuy

(778 posts)
25. We know that is what he will do, unless....
Sat Nov 7, 2020, 01:57 PM
Nov 2020

it causes him too much pain, threatens him too much to do that. Those kind of ideas are what I'm looking for....ways to punish the MF and make him fear Joe, not for the sake of revenge (although that would be nice at some level), but as a strategy to politically castrate the motherfucker and make it unappealing from the standpoint of self preservation to get in Joe's way.

joshcryer

(62,270 posts)
36. Win in GA, remove the virtual filibuster.
Sat Nov 7, 2020, 02:22 PM
Nov 2020

Make them actually filibuster (oh and they most certainly would, they've been having a vacation for over a decade).

ffr

(22,669 posts)
24. +1
Sat Nov 7, 2020, 01:55 PM
Nov 2020

All they need to know. We need to put in a presidential campaign effort to get two senators in Georgia!

wryter2000

(46,042 posts)
7. My idea
Sat Nov 7, 2020, 01:39 PM
Nov 2020

First, we all work our asses off to win both run-offs in Georgia. That'll take care of McConnell.

If we only win one, talk Lisa Murkowski into caucusing with the Dems. Offer her something really, really sweet.

wryter2000

(46,042 posts)
33. So, we'd have three
Sat Nov 7, 2020, 02:13 PM
Nov 2020

Jeffres (not remembering his first name) flipped control of the Senate when he became an independent and caucused with the Dems. Murkowski could do that. I don't trust Susan Collins, but if we could get another R, that would give us the Senate.

wryter2000

(46,042 posts)
38. She lost the primary to a tea bagger
Sat Nov 7, 2020, 02:25 PM
Nov 2020

And she won as a write in. She voted to save the ACA. I don't know if we could get her or not, but if we only win one seat in GA, we'd only need her to get the majority.

I've signed up for Stacey Abrams organization to be a volunteer. Winning both seats in GA would be the best solution.

True Blue American

(17,984 posts)
40. Great news!
Sat Nov 7, 2020, 02:34 PM
Nov 2020

Keep us informed. I read that Democrats need to work to help food banks and basic needs instead of wasting millions on ads! What do you think?

Good luck!

wryter2000

(46,042 posts)
41. We have to do both
Sat Nov 7, 2020, 02:50 PM
Nov 2020

If we don't win the Senate, we won't be able to make real progress to help regular people who are hurting much more than usual now. Just imagine if Trump had been able to pull off his idea of ending the Social Security tax. Millions of old people would be in serious trouble, including me.

IowaGuy

(778 posts)
27. I'm not real crazy about giving Murkowski that much power,
Sat Nov 7, 2020, 02:00 PM
Nov 2020

it may be necessary in the end though. I would like to try other options or strategies before we get to that point, though.

DeminPennswoods

(15,286 posts)
9. Investigate and indict his wife.
Sat Nov 7, 2020, 01:39 PM
Nov 2020

Well deserved karma after the way he obstructed Obama and the Dem agenda.

True Blue American

(17,984 posts)
12. If we can win
Sat Nov 7, 2020, 01:40 PM
Nov 2020

The 2 run offs Mitch will be toothless. I think he is seriously ill with those hands and his face.

They are talking about forming the group of 8 to get things done.

DBoon

(22,366 posts)
15. investigate criminal activity tie to him
Sat Nov 7, 2020, 01:41 PM
Nov 2020

I'm sure there is something funny about that aluminum processing plant in KY built by Russian money

IowaGuy

(778 posts)
18. Seeing some good ideas....pinning all our hopes on winning the Senate
Sat Nov 7, 2020, 01:48 PM
Nov 2020

while hopeful, doesn't give us a plan if it doesn't work out. While I believe we can be competitive, to assume we can get either or both seats is not entirely realistic. Their were more republican votes in both races than dem. We're playing from behind.

I was more interested in peoples ideas about what Joe, the executive branch could do to fuck Mcconnell.

 

Cartaphelius

(868 posts)
22. My vote is for a cattle prod convincer
Sat Nov 7, 2020, 01:52 PM
Nov 2020

applied liberally and as needed. Did he fall asleep? Three Zaps.

Did he piss himself following the above application on the first
Zap? Double the remaining zaps. So add an even 10 more zaps.
Just for safety sakes....

Roland99

(53,342 posts)
44. It's now training/hr as its primary purpose
Sat Nov 7, 2020, 03:00 PM
Nov 2020

Ft Campbell strides the KY/TN border...not sure it would have much effect

IowaGuy

(778 posts)
46. Actually, locals always get tripped out when there is a threat of their base closing....
Sat Nov 7, 2020, 03:20 PM
Nov 2020

loss of jobs, etc. Local economies are heavily dependent on their base. The dirty little secret is that a lot of our bases are totally unnecessary from a defensive necessity or posture. They are just government make work projects put on the back of the Defense Department because it's easier for a politician to look like they supporting funding for the military rather than a "socialist" make work project. Losing that level of pork is a big threat to any politicians career.

Bad Thoughts

(2,524 posts)
26. Keep Chao as Sec of Transportation
Sat Nov 7, 2020, 01:59 PM
Nov 2020

Biden doesn't need to ask for her resignation. Allow her to continue in her post. It will be more exciting than retiring.

IowaGuy

(778 posts)
32. That's some 4D chess thinking, makes her immediately available for Congress subpoenas
Sat Nov 7, 2020, 02:10 PM
Nov 2020

She would probably quickly resign and I wouldn't be surprised if she ran to another country. But it sure would put the spotlight on Mconnell. Hell we might actually get an Infrastructure week that actually did something... LOL.

WyattKansas

(1,648 posts)
34. Crawl up his ass with a microscope and publish everything out of place.
Sat Nov 7, 2020, 02:21 PM
Nov 2020

Expose the smarmy evil bastard for what he really is... A crooked SOB.

Generic Brad

(14,275 posts)
47. Convince Trump the GOP Senators let him down
Sat Nov 7, 2020, 03:21 PM
Nov 2020

If he thinks McConnell & Company double crossed him, he will command has cult to not turn out for the two GA senate runoff elections.

Prince99

(53 posts)
48. Wedge issues him for short term
Sat Nov 7, 2020, 03:25 PM
Nov 2020

We need to push the CARES package immediately. His waffling will allow us to hang that as wedge issue for Georgia. Some of this will be on Dump not agreeing to any new CARES deal but by association we can tag him with it and make it a case for the election.

If he agrees to our terms, the more the better that need help. I say he will roll dice and not agree to a deal because Dump will not sign it.

IowaGuy

(778 posts)
51. A lot of these replies are focusing on getting 50 Senators in the DEM caucus....
Sat Nov 7, 2020, 03:39 PM
Nov 2020

while certainly preferable to not being in the majority...that doesn't automatically make DEM priorities a slam dunk. It essentially gives any individual DEM, independent or R who caucuses w/ the DEMS veto power over a DEM agenda item. We don't have to go into any discussion about who's a DINO or not here, just accept that they do exist and can and will probably present problems.

We need a way to hamstring Mconnell and his fellow rethugs so they don't act as a cohesive unit. This diminishes the power of any individual DINO if there are a significant number of Rethug senators that are not afraid of the turtle and would rather act as independent agents.

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