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My Pet Orangutan

(10,620 posts)
Sun Nov 8, 2020, 09:20 AM Nov 2020

In praise of Mary Trump.

Mary Trump has been a revelation: poised, insightful, informed, fun, and above all, intelligent - the anti-Donald. As she has signalled on many occasions, she intends to change her name. Stepping forward involved considerable risk, but she handled the media with aplomb. She is a patriot, and I salute her.

Here, she writes about 'Donald's' future:-

After January, things look bleak for Donald. He has more than $400m of debt coming in the next four years. Why at this point would his lenders cut him any slack? He has never paid anyone back. His businesses are in the tank. He has destroyed his brand.

He is going to be a factor in courtrooms in New York City more than he’s going to be a factor in politics, I think. His secretary of defence has already submitted his resignation, and I think there will be more of that. The Republicans might need him for the January run-offs in Georgia, but he could be considered a liability. If he’s acting like a crazy person, senators are going to keep their distance. People will move away from him if there’s nothing in it for them any more.

It’s not like he has any friends, anyway. It’s grim for him. Donald Jr, Ivanka and Eric also know their relationship with their father is both conditional and transactional. I have been saying since 2016 that I was going to have to change my name. I think they’re going to have to change theirs.

As for saying he’ll run in 2024, that’s just a face-saving exercise. It’s a way of distracting him from the fact that he’s probably going to prison. But the worst thing Donald’s looking at isn’t financial difficulties or the prospect of jail. It’s becoming irrelevant. I don’t think he would ever recover from that.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/nov/08/mary-trump-on-the-end-of-uncle-donald-all-he-has-now-is-breaking-things
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In praise of Mary Trump. (Original Post) My Pet Orangutan Nov 2020 OP
There's no need to change her name... Hugin Nov 2020 #1
She no longer wants her name. dem4decades Nov 2020 #3
How unfortunate it came to that point. Hugin Nov 2020 #5
It will be her final fuck-you to the family nt localroger Nov 2020 #6
She should change it to Mary Bydon. Captain Zero Nov 2020 #10
Hah! North Shore Chicago Nov 2020 #24
Or Mary Hussain Obama. dem4decades Nov 2020 #30
I agree treestar Nov 2020 #4
In this country, children generally receive only the father's name. And when women marry, it is niyad Nov 2020 #22
... Hugin Nov 2020 #25
I hope she picks an awesome name I_UndergroundPanther Nov 2020 #32
What a beautiful name. Hope we can have a naming celebration for you! niyad Nov 2020 #33
Awww I_UndergroundPanther Nov 2020 #34
Can legal hair help you? niyad Nov 2020 #35
She's great, love the smile she had yesterday. dem4decades Nov 2020 #2
Why dud she wait 4 years? Book deal. beachbumbob Nov 2020 #7
As she said many times My Pet Orangutan Nov 2020 #9
People needed to hear it right before voting. Captain Zero Nov 2020 #11
Same reason why Obama waiting until recently to speak out Dopers_Greed Nov 2020 #17
Agree... Mike Nelson Nov 2020 #8
That's a powerful piece. Much respect for this lady. hlthe2b Nov 2020 #12
Mary Trump is a good person and a good American. dalton99a Nov 2020 #13
I got her book and LOVED it!!! onecent Nov 2020 #14
I finished her book last week. Delmette2.0 Nov 2020 #15
Good article and love Mary's insight into "Donald" as she calls him. Need to finish reading her book iluvtennis Nov 2020 #16
Something I learned from her is that Jr.'s name is Donnie My Pet Orangutan Nov 2020 #18
From The Big Lebowski... Gary 50 Nov 2020 #20
We should have no problems welcoming her within the tent pandr32 Nov 2020 #19
She's given our country the gift of having broken through the Dump familiy's denial cp Nov 2020 #21
She clearly depicts reality--so he loses his properties to pay debts, RestoreAmerica2020 Nov 2020 #23
The embedded video is exceptional. "Joe Biden's path to victory: five days in five minutes" erronis Nov 2020 #26
Mary Trump's part in helping Upthevibe Nov 2020 #27
Irrelevance in: BobTheSubgenius Nov 2020 #28
You mean...Donald WHO? usaf-vet Nov 2020 #29
I am hoping to see regular updates on DU as Donnie's court cases grind slowly on. Hermit-The-Prog Nov 2020 #31

Hugin

(34,716 posts)
1. There's no need to change her name...
Sun Nov 8, 2020, 09:26 AM
Nov 2020

We all know Mary Trump and we all know she's a good apple.

I hope she doesn't let her Uncle take the last thing she has left from her Dad.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
4. I agree
Sun Nov 8, 2020, 09:43 AM
Nov 2020

Now that she's well known, we know who she is. Most people will. Before that, maybe it would be a negative, but not now.

She could change it to the original, Drumpf. Or her mother's maiden name.

niyad

(120,399 posts)
22. In this country, children generally receive only the father's name. And when women marry, it is
Sun Nov 8, 2020, 11:46 AM
Nov 2020

assumed that they will take their husband's name. The ability to name oneself is an act of courage and self (not societal) identity.

Good for her!!

Hugin

(34,716 posts)
25. ...
Sun Nov 8, 2020, 12:00 PM
Nov 2020

You missed my post #5 where I acknowledged this... However, after having read her book it's obvious that much of her personal angst is due to the total stripping and denigration of anything good about her Father and his memory by the rest of the grubbing family. I personally don't see it as a gender thing for her to keep the one and only thing she was allowed to inherit from her father. But, sadly, even that connection has become so soiled she has apparently chosen to give it up.

I_UndergroundPanther

(12,952 posts)
32. I hope she picks an awesome name
Sun Nov 8, 2020, 11:32 PM
Nov 2020

I want to change my dead name to Panther Sekhmet and keep the last name.

I'm transgender and I identify as they/ them.
Panther is a genderless name. And the most beautiful of felines..

It's is absolutely about self identity.

And social identity also.

Having grown up with my dead name being used as a badge of shame by bullies,then having it identified as the wrong gender ,I can fully understand Mary wanting to ditch her name.

niyad

(120,399 posts)
33. What a beautiful name. Hope we can have a naming celebration for you!
Mon Nov 9, 2020, 08:28 AM
Nov 2020

I am so very sorry for all that you have gone through. I hope that you can find safety and peace.

I_UndergroundPanther

(12,952 posts)
34. Awww
Mon Nov 9, 2020, 11:08 AM
Nov 2020

Thank you.

Currently saving up money,because a name change where I live is almost 200 bucks.

Want to change it on the 2nd or 3rd of the month so I get no hiccups in my SSI check.

My Pet Orangutan

(10,620 posts)
9. As she said many times
Sun Nov 8, 2020, 10:00 AM
Nov 2020

in 2016 Mary could not believe the people would elect Donald..

Why did she wait until the middle of this year? A: To do maximum damage to 'Uncle Donald', releasing it when the election campaign was underway.

Captain Zero

(7,532 posts)
11. People needed to hear it right before voting.
Sun Nov 8, 2020, 10:46 AM
Nov 2020

In 2016 she, like many of us, thought he couldn't possibly win.

Dopers_Greed

(2,647 posts)
17. Same reason why Obama waiting until recently to speak out
Sun Nov 8, 2020, 11:21 AM
Nov 2020

They thought they would most impactful during the election year.

Delmette2.0

(4,264 posts)
15. I finished her book last week.
Sun Nov 8, 2020, 11:12 AM
Nov 2020

She gets to change her name to what ever she wants, when ever she wants. She has earned some privacy.

iluvtennis

(20,913 posts)
16. Good article and love Mary's insight into "Donald" as she calls him. Need to finish reading her book
Sun Nov 8, 2020, 11:16 AM
Nov 2020

as I only got through about two-thirds of it.

My Pet Orangutan

(10,620 posts)
18. Something I learned from her is that Jr.'s name is Donnie
Sun Nov 8, 2020, 11:24 AM
Nov 2020

the diminutive of Donald, in the same way that Ivanka is the diminutive of Ivana. Right from the start the message to the kids was, you are less than Dad/Mom.

pandr32

(12,236 posts)
19. We should have no problems welcoming her within the tent
Sun Nov 8, 2020, 11:31 AM
Nov 2020

...of normal, patriotic Americans. Her last name doesn't bother me at all because she seems to have come from the only healthy branch of that family tree. Her father tried to be allowed to be himself and died as the result. Mary should be allowed to be who she is and do as she chooses with our blessing--and with our thanks.

cp

(7,228 posts)
21. She's given our country the gift of having broken through the Dump familiy's denial
Sun Nov 8, 2020, 11:44 AM
Nov 2020

She is clear, articulate, and faces reality head-on.
Thank you, Mary Trump!

RestoreAmerica2020

(3,458 posts)
23. She clearly depicts reality--so he loses his properties to pay debts,
Sun Nov 8, 2020, 11:57 AM
Nov 2020

..what I'd like to see-- is that every fucking penny this guy took for his, his family personal and or business expenses [incl. his corrupt sycophants] to be paid back to the American people.

If that means he has to liquidate his assets; indicted, charge for potential crimes that will sieze his assets where he may very well have to serve prision time--then, oh well...It may be time to pay the piper for all his life's misdeeds.

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