Good Gawd - Can the Senate (Mitch McConnell) can refuse to certify the Electoral College?

[LeftInTX]

Someone talk me down...I'm sure Mitch will do this.

Then it goes to the House, but then the only majority of states. (Not House, vote) Each state will get a vote: And the vote will be a majority of the house delegation per state. Biden will lose. God gawd!!

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/08/05/heres-what-pelosi-could-do-if-republicans-tried-manipulate-presidential-elections-outcome/

https://www.latimes.com/politics/story/2020-10-29/odds-are-low-but-heres-how-a-deadlocked-electoral-college-could-lead-to-president-pelosi

[madaboutharry]

1. It goes to the house 269-269

Biden won the election. End of story.

[LeftInTX]

5. No..it goes to the house...One vote from each state.

The majority delegation from each state gets one vote...

Instead there are special rules. Each of the 50 House delegations — which consists of representatives from every congressional district in that state — receives only one vote. So California, with its 53 House representatives, gets one vote, and Montana, with its one House representative, also gets one vote. And that vote is determined by the majority of the delegations.

[still_one]

9. Yes. and it isn't a tie. Biden/Harris at the worst will get 290 electoral votes

[RDANGELO]

2. The results are too clear. They won't have the nerve to do it.

The would get away with in in this election, but lose badly in the next one losing the independents.

[NJCher]

4. Nerve to do it, you mean

Eom

[Crunchy Frog]

8. They would not get away with it. It would be civil war.

[OnDoutside]

12. 100% agree.

[PTWB]

3. Chill.

It’s over. We won.

[LeftInTX]

6. But McConnell is evil

He will do anything...

[Renew Deal]

7. I still don't think they want to go the win at all costs route.

Things will get violent if they do. The goal of the US system is to benefit from it without breaking it. If they screw around too much, Pelosi becomes president.

[LeftInTX]

11. McConell wants to break it.

[Sogo]

10. Not to worry...

Nancy has options....

[renate]

13. I am SO FUCKING TIRED

Here we are even TALKING about whether the man who lost both the popular vote and the electoral college will get the hell out. How much more are we expected to endure?

How is this happening in our country?

[stopdiggin]

18. none of this wild-assed stuff is actually going to happen

get some sleep. We'll all (including some of our silly cousins) be back here again tomorrow.
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[renate]

23. Thank you! I needed this splash of cold water to the face

I just want him to go away. It’s exhausting. Which is how he does what he does. He just wears people down.

He’s a scourge and he doesn’t deserve one more speck of my brainspace. Thanks for the reminder!

[unblock]

14. No. Here's the procedure for challenging electoral votes:

As the electoral votes are being read and counted in the joint session of congress on January 4, one senator and one representative together may challenge any electoral vote.

The houses then meet separately and vote on the challenges. It takes a majority in *each* house for the challenge to be successful. Note that this is one vote per representative, not one vote per delegation.

If, after the counting and all challenges, not one has 270 electoral votes, then the house determines the president, and this time it is one vote per state delegation. Do republicans would win if it got to that point.

But it won't, because the majority in the house won't agree with the challenges.

[still_one]

15. Thank-you. Thank god we have the majority in the House

[LeftInTX]

21. thank you!

[coti]

24. We have such a fucking dumbass system. nt

[Kablooie]

25. Wow. That means if Republicans held both majorities they could block an election.

The system relies on a measure of professionalism and honesty.
Republicans have lost both completely so a future election could potentially be corrupted.

[stopdiggin]

16. NO. (nt)

[Jspur]

17. I'm not worried. I don't think even they are that brazen to pull this type of

stunt off. There would be so much unrest and you risk potential collapse of the country by not certifying Biden.

[PoindexterOglethorpe]

19. Umm, no.

Plus, the EC isn't going to be at all close.

Do you honestly not understand how this all works?

[pbmus]

20. EC IS THE DEFINITION OF INSANITY, BUT....

President Elect Joe Biden will be sworn in January 20th, 2021 at noon....

Because he will have won over 300 EC votes....and FUCK Moscow Mitch

[Mike Nelson]

22. I think...

... they can do a lot of very ugly things, with Mitch and the Republicans helping in the Senate, yes. However - and it's important to remember this - the Republican majority is slim. Plus, they have members who would not go for any of the "nuclear options" helping Trump. Romney would march right over to Chuck's office and call Nancy... many Republicans would balk.

[sunonmars]

26. I'd be making it quite clear there are several GOP Sens. that need investigating by the DOJ and FBI

over what they did in Moscow and over foreign influence.


Watch the attitude change real quick..........

[mucifer]

27. what pisses me off is the supreme court ruled the electoral college could be bribed

Ok not in those words. But, they don't have to vote how the state voted. Wouldn't surprise me if they got bribed.

[stopdiggin]

28. that is not at all what the Supreme Court said

States have always had the determination of electors in their hands. Currently they are almost universal in awarding those votes in a "winner take all" block (selected by the political parties) on the basis of the popular vote. They can chose other ways of of doing it (and two states have done so, ME and NE) by changing their own respective state laws. And they have always had that ability.

The court has also ruled unanimously in favor of "faithless elector" state laws -

-- snip -- NYTimes, updated Nov. 3, 2020 --
“The Constitution’s text and the nation’s history both support allowing a state to enforce an elector’s pledge to support his party’s nominee — and the state voters’ choice — for president,” Justice Elena Kagan wrote for seven members of the court.

i.e. they DO have to vote the way they are assigned -- and are subject to penalty by state law for infraction -- per the Supreme Court